Nintendo Switch 2 - For the Soytendo consoomers to speculate about the successor to the Switch, recently announced for 2025.

[Harman Smith]

Its not impossible. There is a lot of oddities around Switch 2. The Mario Kart update was likely a response to declining player numbers.

I can assure you that people are still playing the game. The idea that it’s losing relevancy or becoming unpopular is laughable.

 

[gamerweeb1]

Whats interesting is they admit they sold through in the first 7 weeks (so up to July 25) 6 million units. So it seems a lot of the sales have been heavily frontloaded. The console is now readily available so it seems we may have gotten through the early adopters pretty quickly. We may look back and view the success of the Switch 2 as more of a supply thing than a demand thing. We've never seen a console this well supplied in the first week but other consoles were still supply constraint at 6 million.

I do think sales will drop between July and September. But then Pokemon comes out in October, and will be bundled with the console for $500. I think the holiday sales numbers will be huge.

 

[gamerweeb1]

The fact that there are people who base their political opinions on the cost of their bing bing wahoos is absolutely depressing.

This is just a stupid argument. I’ve hated Trump since 2015, this hasn’t affected my opinion of him. My point is that millions of Americans voted for a Trump sales tax and are now blaming companies for increasing their prices.

 

[IrishGuy088]

There's an indie game called Ex-Zodiac that is an homage to the older Star Fox games. It's pretty good, though it's still in early access.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RNa39u4fV1w

This is great! Thank you.

 

[Never Scored]

EAD had tons of different teams under it at that time, Japan doesn't do the "Funny Name Studios" shit that western teams do. As to Tezuka, main producer duties were actually handled by Hiroyuki Kimura (Tezuka was a co-producer) but more importantly, the Director, which matters more, was Shigeyuki Asuke, who did have an assistant director credit on Sunshine but has really bounced around a lot, doing work on GBA ports, Big Brain Academy and Splatoon, in addition to further NSMB titles.

I gotta be honest, this feels like autisticly splitting hairs.

 

[whatever I feel like]

I gotta be honest, this feels like autisticly splitting hairs.

Split hairs or not but pretending that NSMBU was gonna sell a whole system is where not splitting hairs gets you. If everything is a mainline Mario game then nothing is.

 

[Hermiöne Granger]

Nintendo Switch 2 game key cards have to go.

 

[Fox Girl Enjoyer]

I can assure you that people are still playing the game. The idea that it’s losing relevancy or becoming unpopular is laughable.

All of the Mario Kart channels have noted that online lobbies have shrunk drastically since launch with them almost never filling up now. Im sure people are playing it but I never said they weren't, just that it declined. Big games can see massive drop offs. Just look at Monster Hunter Wild (which sold 2 times MKW).

I do think sales will drop between July and September. But then Pokemon comes out in October, and will be bundled with the console for $500. I think the holiday sales numbers will be huge.

We'll see. I think the price and lack of titles are going to massively hold it back. Pokemon A to Z is also on Switch. That said, if units aren't moving quickly the Pokemon bundle could lead to it being over supplied. Something to keep an eye on.

 

[Jarch6]

One game that people want to play is worth more than ten that they don't.

Couldn't agree more, I remember getting an Xbox just to play Halo with the boys (and when Halo went to shit, I realized there was no reason for me to have an Xbox anymore). DK Bonanza and MK World (if Nintendo didn't purposely gimp the multiplayer) could serve that role for some. E.g., If Kirby Air Riders is kino like the GameCube version, I'd actually consider getting a Switch 2 (waiting for the inevitable OLED version of course).

Wii U didn't have a mainline Mario game at launch. It had a title in the NSMB side-series. And no, I wasn't interested in it.

Mainline or not discussion aside, it wasn't a wholly new game (comparable to Mario: the Lost Levels as a sequel or Mario Galaxy 2).

 

[Neil]

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Sadly no.

Every single one of these console price increases is roughly 15%, directly corresponding to the tariffs hitting Japan in a few days.

The original Switch got a 13.3% increase. The Switch OLED got a 14.3% increase, and the Switch Lite got a solid 15% increase.

Nintendo is (predictably) shifting a decent amount (possibly all if their point of export is solely Japan) of the burden of tariffs onto the customer, but I feel like they could be far higher if you take into account the 20% tariff on Vietnam and 30% tariff on China.

I feel like the main reason why Nintendo isn't also applying this to the Switch 2 is because they've either already factored tariffs into its price and/or they know that increasing its already high price would crash its momentum into the dirt. The Switch 2 still hasn't even outsold the Dreamcast so getting its foothold in the market first before trying to turn a profit is going to be more important.

RIP to the Switch 1's chances of outselling the PS2.

And don’t even think about pretending that tariffs have anything to do with this decision because A) If they did, Nintendo would have raised prices months ago, B) The Switch is already overpriced at $300, and C) Tariffs against Japan are relatively low.

Trump's 15% tariffs against Japan start next Thursday (August 7th). Nintendo is changing their prices officially on Sunday.

It doesn't matter how "low" the tariff rate is, 15% on an already highly priced product is far worse than 15% on a cheap product. Given the choice, I'd rather pay 15% more on a pack of Skittles (25 cent difference) than a fucking game console ($30-50 difference). I'd rather not pay 15% more for anything at all but that requires not electing retards to office.

 

[whatever I feel like]

Every single one of these console price increases is roughly 15%, directly corresponding to the tariffs hitting Japan in a few days.

The original Switch got a 13.3% increase. The Switch OLED got a 14.3% increase, and the Switch Lite got a solid 15% increase.

Nintendo is (predictably) shifting a decent amount (possibly all if their point of export is solely Japan) of the burden of tariffs onto the customer, but I feel like they could be far higher if you take into account the 20% tariff on Vietnam and 30% tariff on China.

I feel like the main reason why Nintendo isn't also applying this to the Switch 2 is because they've either already factored tariffs into its price and/or they know that increasing its already high price would crash its momentum into the dirt. The Switch 2 still hasn't even outsold the Dreamcast so getting its foothold in the market first before trying to turn a profit is going to be more important.

RIP to the Switch 1's chances of outselling the PS2.

Trump's 15% tariffs against Japan start next Thursday (August 7th). Nintendo is changing their prices officially on Sunday.
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It doesn't matter how "low" the tariff rate is, 15% on an already highly priced product is far worse than 15% on a cheap product. Given the choice, I'd rather pay 15% more on a pack of Skittles (25 cent difference) than a fucking game console ($30-50 difference).

Switches are made only in China and Vietnam, they're taking some of the burden themselves.

 

[GlupShitto]

The 4 NES titles, World, debatably Yoshi's Island, 64, Sunshine, Galaxy 1+2, 3D Land, 3D World, debatably Captain Toad and Odyssey. I could see DKB being one too, depending on whether the Odyssey team were all working on it or if this was a spin-off group with the main team set to real another Mario title in the near future.

Bare in mind, that's just "SMB" games, there's also the two original DK arcade games (debatably 3 too, though that one had no creative team continuity,) and regular Mario Brothers as "non-Super" Mario titles.

Counting 3D Land and Yoshi's Island but not Land/Land 2 and Wonder is crazy

There's an indie game called Ex-Zodiac that is an homage to the older Star Fox games. It's pretty good, though it's still in early access.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RNa39u4fV1w

Troonslop

 

[whatever I feel like]

Counting 3D Land and Yoshi's Island but not Land/Land 2 and Wonder is crazy

3DLand was made by the same crew that did the Galaxy games and went on to do 3DWorld and Odyssey. It was the main team doing a main game on hand-held from that era where Japanese companies were insisting that handheld titles were just as important as home console ones (because they sold better in Japan.) Its not about which system they're on, its who's making them and why. And then Yoshi's Island, aside from being literally titled Super Mario World 2 in some regions, is built off of a bunch of Mario World assets by the Mario team, features Mario (and he's even playable when he gets the star!) and introduces a bunch of stuff that became core to the series. Are you sure you don't want to complain about SMB2 US or Captain Toad instead?

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

The 4 NES titles, World, debatably Yoshi's Island, 64, Sunshine, Galaxy 1+2, 3D Land, 3D World, debatably Captain Toad and Odyssey. I could see DKB being one too, depending on whether the Odyssey team were all working on it or if this was a spin-off group with the main team set to real another Mario title in the near future.

Bare in mind, that's just "SMB" games, there's also the two original DK arcade games (debatably 3 too, though that one had no creative team continuity,) and regular Mario Brothers as "non-Super" Mario titles.

Odyssey only debatably? Come on, this is all arbitrary.

I'd rather not pay 15% more for anything at all but that requires not electing retards to office.

Be sure not to vote Democrat again then.

 

[whatever I feel like]

Odyssey only debatably? Come on, this is all arbitrary.


Be sure not to vote Democrat again then.

...I was doing them sequentially. Captain Toad is debatable, Odyssey isn't.

And if you really want to get in the weeds there are game version differences like VS SMB, the Allstars versions of the NES games, Capt. Toad's two endings, the e-Reader content for handheld ports of the early games, etc.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

...I was doing them sequentially. Captain Toad is debatable, Odyssey isn't.

I feel like a comma would've helped there, or mention Captain Toad separately.

Anyway, I think most people just consider all the traditional 2D & 3D platformers to be mainline entries in the "Super Mario" series. The only ones that may not are things like the Super Mario Maker series, though if somebody counted them (at least SMM2, since it has a story mode) then I wouldn't really argue.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Nintendo Switch 2 game key cards have to go.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=TcAlXWC7BU0

> Jump into the middle of the video.
> "Nintendo values game preservation".

Hahahah. Nintendo is objectively the company most against game preservation in the entire industry. They would happily burn every product they made to sell you the same shit again, including going against emulation that even EA and Activision aren't doing.

It doesn't matter how "low" the tariff rate is, 15% on an already highly priced product is far worse than 15% on a cheap product. Given the choice, I'd rather pay 15% more on a pack of Skittles (25 cent difference) than a fucking game console ($30-50 difference). I'd rather not pay 15% more for anything at all but that requires not electing retards to office.

That was retarded even for a post on this thread:
1. Basic economics mean that a product with less demand should be sold for less, not more. Especially after years of development that mean individual components cost a fraction they originally did.
2. A company pushing the full extent of the tariffs into the consumer while it is (supposedly) extremely successful is a shitty greedy company.
3. You are guilty of Nigger economics. That 15% increase on a low product cost would cost more on the long run than a luxury product that should (in theory) last for several years. Not only that, favouring short term economic policies are what caused the USA to be in a shit state in the first place. It goes double with the Switch 1 and 2 having abysmal product quality due to being made in China.

Finally I don't get what Nintendrones have with the Switch outselling the PS2. They got so buckbroken by Sony they need the validation of removing its past achievements.

 

[whatever I feel like]

> Jump into the middle of the video.
> "Nintendo values game preservation".

Hahahah. Nintendo is objectively the company most against game preservation in the entire industry. They would happily burn every product they made to sell you the same shit again, including going against emulation that even EA and Activision aren't doing.

That was retarded even for a post on this thread:
1. Basic economics mean that a product with less demand should be sold for less, not more. Especially after years of development that mean individual components cost a fraction they originally did.
2. A company pushing the full extent of the tariffs into the consumer while it is (supposedly) extremely successful is a shitty greedy company.
3. You are guilty of Nigger economics. That 15% increase on a low product cost would cost more on the long run than a luxury product that should (in theory) last for several years. Not only that, favouring short term economic policies are what caused the USA to be in a shit state in the first place. It goes double with the Switch 1 and 2 having abysmal product quality due to being made in China.

Finally I don't get what Nintendrones have with the Switch outselling the PS2. They got so buckbroken by Sony they need the validation of removing its past achievements.

Nintendo's internal archives are excellent and extend back decades, far better than nearly every other old company's. What you are actually bitching about is access, and yeah, they do want you to have to pay a lot of money to access their products.

 

[anti SJW]

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Nintendo's internal archives are excellent and extend back decades, far better than nearly every other old company's. What you are actually bitching about is access, and yeah, they do want you to have to pay a lot of money to access their products.

lol, with no widespread free access, those "internal archives" are one retard away from vanishing permenantly.