No Time to Die 007 - Time to Go Broke

Ending was pretty flat but all in all still definitely my favourite of the Daniel Craig era films.

Director clearly has a lot of love for the older Bond, the entire Cuba sequence along with the score was the absolute high point.

Hope this reflects on the studio's decisions going forward into the next films, gritty realism Bond just doesn't work as well, but saying that, woke Bond might be even worse.
 
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Shining Wit said:
It's not like you could have made Nomi a decent 007 replacement to lead a film anyway, her character was always too obedient (to M and Bond) and not maverick enough to be a leading role
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Only being a 007 for a few years she hasn't quite got the street cred yet to be taking privledges with her superiors like Bond did. Give her time and she'll have enough tude to make it work for her.
 
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Doesn't QOS start the same afternoon Casino Royal ends? Dude was already going rogue despite failing his first mission, so there's no excuse for Diversity Hire 007 to be playing it straight. She's not even very good, either. Paloma was some newb who blew her out of the water.

JamesFargo said:
Bolivian water rights. Why not make a movie about Brexit and straight bananas?

QoS sucked for the same reason Live and Let Die, TND, and (arguably) View to a Kill sucked. The bar is set too low for Bond. His opponent is a douche. It feels like a cheat to tie him to Royale.
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To be fair, the Craig Bonds were supposed to be more realistic and grounded (no Q, Moneypenny, fancy gadgets, gun barrel). As a continuation of Casino Royale, I think QOS works. Greene was a lightweight villain (though he was threatening enough with his spastic axe attack), but the real villain was Quantum, a sinister organization controlling everything, even the British government.

Then there was the 4-year delay and EON abandoned everything to make a mash-up of The World Is Not Enough and The Dark Knight.
 
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The problem was Mr. White was never presented as a big bad. In Casino Royale he's presented as a hitman/fixer type working for the unnamed organization that desperately needs Le Chiffre's casino winnings to survive. (lol) In Quantum he has two scenes but is never shown as a fancy pants leader. Then suddenly he returns in Spectre and now he's the leader of Quantum, something I had to look up on a fan wiki.

The MCU has destroyed movies in more ways than one. Now there's a desperate obsession with canon and continuity and everyone being interconnected, so of course White was behind everything and Bond falls in love with his daughter while battling a foster brother who grew up to become the world's greatest villain.
 
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Sex Cannon Lupa said:
The MCU has destroyed movies in more ways than one.
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Marvel's biggest weakness is also their biggest strength.

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Don't get me wrong. I'd love to see Craig park a bus up Mark Zuckerberg's ass sideways. I just don't trust MGM to handle that topic honestly. Bond is almost a proud elitist snob himself.

It falls into the old problem of Bond having no more enemies to fight. Hitler and Stalin, two discarded puppets; and, to Fleming's eye, interchangable.

I liked Casino because it allowed Bond to do some interesting things in that area, without compromising his duty to England.
 
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There really is nowhere for the franchise to go, which is why EON was so desperate to retain Craig for one more movie...the series is flatlined, the character's mystique has been ground down to nonexistent, and there is no stories left to tell besides how global elites need Bond to save them so they can continue to leech off of the world.

No Time to Die? It is absolutely this exhausted series' time to go. Where else can they go with 007? Black Bond? Troon Bond? Lady Bond? All three in one Bond? Bond vs. Predator? Bond vs. Frankenstein?
 
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Commander X said:
No Time to Die? It is absolutely this exhausted series' time to go. Where else can they go with 007? Black Bond? Troon Bond? Lady Bond? All three in one Bond? Bond vs. Predator? Bond vs. Frankenstein?
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The only place to go is back to the character's roots: the 60's and the Cold War. Guardians of the Galaxy caught everyone off-guard with a clever use of a period soundtrack, imagine how The Hard Way (or whatever they call this fully rebooted Bond) would draw eyeballs with an early-sixties everything. Have this be James Bond's first job for MI-6 that (of course) goes horribly wrong and requires him to save the world against a ticking clock. You know, the shit people actually watch Bond movies for. Doing it this way would let you cast a younger actor as well, someone you could put in the hook for a lot of movies and maybe even someone in good enough shape to do (some?) Of his own stunts.
 
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JamesFargo said:
And piss off the Chinese market?
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Make the bad guys the Russians, or SPECTRE, or "rogue branches" of this or that intelligence agency or terrorist group. Besides, east and west can always unite against Dr. Noah and his earthquake machine. (Disclosure: I recently rewatched "Our Man Bashir." I'd forgotten how much I missed shit like that.)
 
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Krokodil Overdose said:
Make the bad guys the Russians, or SPECTRE, or "rogue branches" of this or that intelligence agency or terrorist group. Besides, east and west can always unite against Dr. Noah and his earthquake machine. (Disclosure: I recently rewatched "Our Man Bashir." I'd forgotten how much I missed shit like that.)
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Not like Avery Brooks is doing much these days anyway.
 
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Krokodil Overdose said:
Make the bad guys the Russians, or SPECTRE, or "rogue branches" of this or that intelligence agency or terrorist group. Besides, east and west can always unite against Dr. Noah and his earthquake machine. (Disclosure: I recently rewatched "Our Man Bashir." I'd forgotten how much I missed shit like that.)
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In general Bond's nature of spy work is more of a "nothing personal" to foreign agencies rather than trying to outright thin the herd.

Still Bond is a done brand as with old Hollywood being pozzed means EON is going to try the Doctor Who test and see if they can make a 007 franchise without Bond work.
 
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Commander X said:
Where else can they go with 007?
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Go really back to basics and make it a period piece. Away from the trend of earpieces and slick MI6 touchscreens.
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Still Bond is a done brand as with old Hollywood being pozzed means EON is going to try the Doctor Who test and see if they can make a 007 franchise without Bond work.
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The next Bond will probably be a Doctor Who. (If it's still a white male)
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Dan Stevens would be a good choice, but I'd rather they just make a Paloma spin-off or something.


Dominic Greene is the personification of the kid mashing buttons in Street Fighter. And compare Camille's fight with Paloma's over-the-top shit in NT2D, looks like a freaking documentary.
 
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