No Time to Die 007 - Time to Go Broke

LightDragonman1 said:
What is up with modern media and culture being absolutely obsessed with this idea that they need to kill the past? Like, we need to let go of anything "old and traditional" and totally focus on "moving on from those outdated ways"?
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Just two movies ago, it seemed like Skyfall was all about restoring the past in many ways. Brought the classic car back, a male M. What the hell?
 
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CWCissey said:
The fact no-one's talking about it makes me wonder though, actually killing James Bond would be fucking huge amongst Britfags and the decided quiet makes me wonder if it's only metaphorically speaking.
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James Bond died when it became Bourne Identity ripoff rather than have the chicks and gadgets that are the most well known things about the series.
 
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So... the character died with Sean Connery, right?

SamTheEagle said:
Just two movies ago, it seemed like Skyfall was all about restoring the past in many ways. Brought the classic car back, a male M. What the hell?
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Things were very different in 2012, back then people kind of had an interest in mid-20th century culture spurred on by TV series like Mad Men, people still acknowledged the downsides of the past but today they seem to want to bury any memory of it, like the society in Brave New World where the average person had no idea about human history and past culture, all they knew was their consumerist present.

It didn't even start with Mad Men, although I think that was the wave Skyfall was kind of riding, growing up there were tons of movies like Stand By Me, The Iron Giant, My Dog Skip, O Brother Where Are Thou, The Majestic and many more set in "the old days" that always took a respectful stance even when addressing the downsides of the past, today people fucking hate the past and want to destroy it, which is despicable and evil.
 
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Ben Whishaw's Q being gay isn't really that surprising, there were clues during Spectre. Even then, it's not really an upsetting change. Q was Asian in Carte Blanche after all because Q actually is a title.

But Reddit confirmation is bad news. I know there's been a ton of Twitter replies to relevant tweets complaining about the ending, so at least people aren't accepting that shit.
 
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CWCissey said:
The fact no-one's talking about it makes me wonder though, actually killing James Bond would be fucking huge amongst Britfags and the decided quiet makes me wonder if it's only metaphorically speaking.
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I think its simply a matter of absolute fucking fatigue of this franchise barely seeming to exist and being delayed over and over and over again as the star ages ever further onwards.

Plus there is the factor others in the thread have alluded to of the series becoming just one more drop in a sea of mostly shit zero-charm "realistic" action thriller blockbusters, as opposed to the flamboyant larger than life theatrics of the from Connery to Brosnan which gave the movies something resembling an identity compared to the competition, even if the quality of the films varied from great to shit.

As painful as it is to even think it, it does seem that the real inheritor of "intentionally cheesy but enjoyable and colorful and snarkless quipping action" cinema may infact be the fucking Fast and the Furious franchise, which is just utterly depressing
 
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