No Time to Die 007 - Time to Go Broke

It's kind of weird how prescient the Dalton era turned out being, except Dalton was good (and shockingly underrated) in the role.
One of my biggest wishes was when Skyfall came out, was to dust out old Bonds, like Dalton and Connery, maybe even Moore and Brosnan, and play on the plot that its just all tag names and the idea of what happens when you get replaced. Have these old bonds help Craig get back into the system, fend himself off from bad guys. You can do so much with that, have these iconic actors have a send off , rather then some years later to get replaced by someone else and that's it. Wouldn't it be great to have a scene with old Bonds just at each others necks and arguing all the time. Because why not explore what happens to Bond when his time is up and he cant do his job anymore, but that's going into the territory of it being a tag name and we cant go that route for some odd reason. So many possibilities and opportunities. Could have went a full dark road of explaining how MI6 just gets rid of these people or vanishes them or something, where like in Skyfall the character Silva explains how they just left him out to die. But no, we are back to him being an actual character and still flying on this book franchise cannon that its the real Bond and the movie cannon along with it.

I do agree that Dalton is fully underrated and with this race swamping or gender swamping Bond. Okay, is he still the same Bond? I don't understand this. Why cant we just move away from the books and take logical step in creating it a tag name. I am just complaining at this point. I have no idea what to expect from this film. I just wish they would just change up the franchise like in the Dalton era, where we had unhinged Bond, fighting drug cartels, not always comical bad guys plotting the destruction of something, even tho I love Thunderball.
 
I do agree that Dalton is fully underrated and with this race swamping or gender swamping Bond. Okay, is he still the same Bond? I don't understand this. Why cant we just move away from the books and take logical step in creating it a tag name. I am just complaining at this point. I have no idea what to expect from this film. I just wish they would just change up the franchise like in the Dalton era, where we had unhinged Bond, fighting drug cartels, not always comical bad guys plotting the destruction of something, even tho I love Thunderball.
Because Bond isn't Batman, the Aston Martin doesn't get passed to the next in line because the story and character was never designed to be. All that's going to happen is Bond is going to keep being reinvented for the current era and culture and thus we'll get endless remakes of the books. Whether that's a good or bad thing, I don't know. The whole James Bond is a code name has always just been a theory by bored busybodies.
 
Even the movies don't follow the James Bond is a codename theory, every pre-reboot actor has had some reference to Bond's dead wife in one of the films.

Lazenby-Saw the wife get deaded
Connery-Diamonds Are Forever was basically Bond chasing Blofeld in revenge for his dead wife.
Moore-We see him lay flowers on dead wife's grave
Dalton-References dead wife when he sadly walks away from Felix Leiter's soon to be dead wife after their wedding. Felix then explains what happened offscreen
Brosnan-Throwaway line in TWINE (I think) where someone asks Bond if he's ever lost any loved ones, he quickly changes the subject.

Vesper was basically Craig's Tracy Bond so no need for a reference I guess, but it was a reboot.

Either way, Linder got us tickets for this on the Saturday after release. She doesn't really pay attention to movie news or what have you and is just happy to be going to the cinema to see a Bond film. I'm kind of dreading it as a long time Bond fan.
 


When he tries to woo Patricia, she rejects his advances and pushes him away but the spy forcibly kisses her by brutally pulling her lips to his.

“She’s like ‘No, no, no,’ and he’s like, ‘Yes, yes, yes.’ That wouldn’t fly today,” said the new 007 director.

I mean, he's right that would make soyfags and ugly fat women with problem glasses lose their shit, but it says more about current (confused, effeminate and hypocritical) sexual mores than it does about Connery's Bond.

Patricia obviously wanted the shecks. Bond knew that, and any penis-in-vagina-enjoying adult watching Thunderball until fairly recently would've understood that. Normal women like being pursued by handsome sexy men they're totally into, and "no" often is a playful way of saying "yes".

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But after a few years of feminist nutjobs trying to berate college kids into thinking heterosexual fucking is rape, and various Hollywood people turning out to be predatory perverts, it's a lot safer for an ambitious young director to pretend not to understand how women work.

Idk if this means Craig needs a Loisense to Shag or what tho
 

It misses the point that it's fiction and the scenes aren't written where the women don't want Bond. They want him. They know it, Bond knows it. They want Bond to take charge. They want him to power kiss them etc. The audience knows this too.

It is misreading the scene to say he's raping them or they don't want it.

It is an interesting take on how you represent this, or if you can now.

I always am amused in films and TV now when the female character is always the sexually aggressive one. They always make the first move. Even more comical when it has the male being all awkward and resisting.
 
I always am amused in films and TV now when the female character is always the sexually aggressive one. They always make the first move. Even more comical when it has the male being all awkward and resisting.
A lot of what used to be interesting inversion of the truth is now cliche in Hollywood movies. A scene like that used to be funny, like a scene of a 90-pound woman kicking a huge man's ass used to be unusual. Now it's all pandering all the time, and it warps some peoples' ideas about the way the world works.
 
What terrifies me is that this summary if true was actually better than I had been imagining the last few weeks.

Also, it was rumored that Safin was basically just a Dr. No stand-in without the need for metal hands due to switching radiation for nanobots.

Edit, actually Wikipedia has a Plot Summary which is completely different.

I'm going to archive the Reddit summary just to have on record.


In 1998, a Noh masked armed man leads a group of assassins to invade the house of Mr. White in order to kill him as revenge for the latter killing his family. The masked man kills Mr. White's wife in front of him, and, injures him. However, before he can kill Mr. White, young Madeliene Swann uses her father's pistol to shoot the masked man, revealing his disfigured face.

The masked man pursues the girl to a frozen lake, into which Swann jumps and the man saves her instead of killing her. He escapes with his assassins, and, Swann returns to her father. Together ,they mourn on the mother's death.

23 years later, in 2021, James Bond leads his retirement life with Swann at Jamaica yet he is haunted by his past memories from MI6. At a nightclub, he reunites with Felix Leiter who asks for Bond's assistance in a new mission; find scientist Valdo Obruchev who has gone missing. Bond refuses, and, encounters a woman who leads him back to his household.

There, she reveals herself to be the new 00 agent Nomi and she offers him to return. Bond refuses again yet states he would think on it. A day later, Bond and Swann are having a romantic vacation at Matera, in which Bond asks her to marry him to which she agrees. However, they are then attacked by a group of assassins whom Bond defeats using his Aston Martin DB5.

Bond decides to return to London, but not before Swann tries convincing him she would not think of betraying him. In London, Bond returns to the MI6 and M, Tanner and Q tell him that the assassins he encountered in Italy were led by a military mercenary named Primo. Afterwards, Bond decides to interrogate Ernst Stavro Blofeld, who is imprisoned. Before he can enter, he sees Swann and confronts her.

While interrogating Blofeld, Bond learns that Swann keeps a secret from him which Blofeld uses to taunt Bond, saying it would destroy him. Bond confronts Swann and pleads her to return to Jamaica. She refuses, enraging Bond yet she decides to reveal her secret.

She tells him again of the attempted assassination against her father at the hands of SPECTRE and reveals that her father once killed a family of a man named Safin, who seeks revenge for his family's death. After failing to kill White, he aims himself to kill her. After MI6 fails to find any information of Safin, Bond is sent to a prom charity event located at Havana, where he meets Felix's CIA protege Paloma who guides him through the prom event and tells the CIA has recently learnt that Obruchev was abducted by Primo, who is connected to Lyutisifer Safin, which the CIA considers him a most-wanted terrorist.

The two are attacked by assassins again, and together with Nomi's assistance they defeat them. Nomi tells them that her mission was to rescue Obruchev from Primo and his men in his lab at Europe, but she was attacked. Meanwhile, at the safe house in London, Swann meets Safin who threatens to kill Bond if she won't come with him. Broken by her secret and Safin's manipulation on her, Swann tearfully agrees. Bond returns to the safe house, and finds Swann missing. Enraged, he soon learns it was Safin taking her.

Bond once again interrogates Blofeld on Safin, which Blofeld seems to hate and tells that Safin was originally an assassin of SPECTRE until he defected. As punishment for his defection, Safin was facially disfigured by a nerve agent. Blofeld then taunts Bond with Swann and Bond beats him. Returning to MI6's intel office, Bond, M, Nomi, Tanner, Q and Nomi are learning from the CIA that Safin uses Obruchev's nanobot bioweapon to turn key military people and world leaders to become his weapons.

Bond recalls Paloma's words that Safin is said to be located at the North Atlantic. Flying an armed advanced seaplane, Nomi and Bond find an island with submarine pen in the North Atlantic. At Safin's island, they are attacked by an army of guards and assassins which they later defeat. Following Safin's Noh mask on the telescreens, Bond and Nomi find a large science complex and together they learn he uses Obruchev's technology to wage war.

Nomi is attacked by Primo and his army, while Bond follows Safin's mask telescreens until he finally reaches to Safin in his lair. Safin explains his motives and later reveals his ultimate plan is to create oblivion for mankind by killing state enemies across the globe and turn the world leaders into his own weapons in order to replace the United Nations' role on world domination. Safin takes Bond with him to a tour at his base, leading him to the exotic poison gardens he has, in which he kills several scientists for failing him. Bond later attacks his guards, and Safin escapes but not before he activates Obruchev's system to begin his plan.

Bond later finds Swann freed and they reunite with Nomi to destroy Safin's island base, hoping to stop his plan. M tells them to retreat while Bond refuses. Fighting their way into Safin's lab facility, they plant bombs which they detonate and manage to destroy most of Obruchev's weapon. The trio later escape soon as Safin's base is completely destroyed and learn they are in Norway.

Bond and Swann follow Safin's helicopter while Nomi, with her Aston Martin Valhalla, backs them soon as Safin's army attacks them. After the chase, they use the seaplane to follow Safin. Bond and Nomi then find a little girl named Matilda with Swann at the plane, which Swann tells them it is a child Safin grew as his clone of Swann after a failing attempt to create more clones for his legacy.

They reach to Scotland, in which Safin crashes their plane into Cairngorms National Park. There, Safin lands with his army to find and kill Bond and the others, leading to a lengthy destructive battle. During the battle, Safin tells Bond that his plan is already happening and that several countries already opened in a war. After a gunfight, Bond surprises Safin and the two fight. Primo is killed by Nomi and Swann. Safin then taunts Bond who overpowers the former and defeats him. At the helicopter, Bond disarms Obruchev's technology with Safin's trigger. Safin later tries to kill Matilda, but Swann shoots him and he is taken into custody for his crimes.

In the aftermath, Blofeld is freed by a SPECTRE agent in his prison facility. Safin asks for freedom, yet Blofeld leaves him. Bond and the others are welcomed by the MI6 as heroes. Swann decides to join the MI6 and raise Matilda as her and Bond's daughter.
 
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The Wikipedia summary is remarkably inoffensive. And uninteresting. But at least it doesn't sound awful.

I never had any plans to watch this, as Ana de Amares having such a small role makes that even less likely.
 
Sounds like the plot of a pretty interesting spy movie. It in no way sounds like the plot of a Bond movie. I'll suspend jugdement til I eventually see it (yarr) but, like most 2010s movies, it sounds like fan fiction that accidentally got made into a real film.
 
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I’m more inclined to believe the Reddit plot summary as it mentions things I expect to be in this movie (Moneypenny, use of the OHMSS theme, a long single shot action sequence, one of Fukunaga’s signatures). Jeff Wells also confirms the Reddit version with a (now deleted) blog post.
 
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