Not-E3 2020 Thread

[Marissa Moira]

It already did, kind of. Nintendo shutting down the online services for Wii and DSi should be a warning sign, but those didn't really have much in the way of patches (Monster Hunter is the only game I know that had online updates), and since Nintendo fans only care about first party Nintendo, no one gave a fuck about all the digital only games that disappeared.

The first real test will be when Sony shuts down the PS3 PSN, or Microsoft shuts down the Xbox 360 XBL. I would say the Vita PSN, but no one gives a shit about the Vita except me. The PS3 and Xbox 360 are the first consoles that leaned on those systems that have games people actually care about. Although there's a 50/50 chance that we'll have a repeat of the apathy when Nintendo started shutting down their old services. I saw a lot of complaints when Valve dropped Windows XP support for Steam, but a week later no one cared.

I think Sony will be the ones to pull the plug first. Microsoft are a software company, so I think it's likely they will keep a single server running in some basement somewhere. I remember hearing that id still has one official Quake server running, so it's possible.

Sony and Microsoft manage and have co-developed the same types of online servers and structure. They've worked together many times for things like that.

PS3 is still logged on to in the millions, the online still being free is a big draw. Xbox 360 is a similar deal.

Remember Everquest is still going, you could also Worlds.com shit if you ever get desperate. Bethesda's Brink servers are still up for consoles.

 

[Chiri]

The Xbox showcase will be starting soon. The release date has supposedly leaked already so that's something to expect. I feel like we might get a price as well if the release date is true.

 

[Jimmy Durante's Ballsack]

Alright boys and girls, gather round the campfire. Uncle Owen and his power bottom Shaun are here to deliver great content and talk about E3 2020 or something.

Pretty miffed that it isn't Will Macdonald's How to Be a Pub Genius 2, which is what we were promised.

 

[tehpope]

You know, I don't think physical media will ever die, or not at least in our lifetimes. I know a lot of us had a "It still takes discs! PHEW!" moment with the unveilings of the XBSX and the PS5, but at the top of the last gen, I had the same feeling, and it seemed even more in jeopardy with Microsoft pulling all that DRM bullshit with the Xbone, which seemed to be so unappealing, they lost their shot at the console war for this entire generation. Discs were to be hardlocked to your console, unable to ever be resold, and the system had to hit the internet at least once every 24 hours to be usable at all.

Compare that with the modern day, where the XBSX plays everything the Xbox One can, plus whatever they added to the backwards compatibility program, discs included.

And also Sony has some kind of big stake in disc production, I don't know the details.

Regardless, if there was gonna be a crossover generation where discs die, last gen would have been the right one. But consoles aren't designed for the tech savvy, they're designed for people who want to plug two wires into their machine and have it play their games, the ones they can pick up at Walmart alongside all their cool guy shit like hammers and motor oil, or whatever normal people buy. Ffs, music has been out of the hard copy game for such a long time that its come full circle and now vinyls with streaming codes are the name of the game, so that you'll have both a hard copy, and a code so you can actually listen to what you bought.

A fan of hard copies is born every time a streaming service removes a show you were watching halfway through, or an app you bought suddenly stops working because the OS no longer supports it and you can't get a refund. Consoomers may not mind because they're vapid trendwhores who care more about being seen talking about the latest thing rather than actually enjoying it, but for everyone else with more braincells than @BoxerShorts47, it's pretty shitty to just wake up and see your shit gone because someone decided it was time for it to go. And entertainment is like the one thing where that's possible, it's not like Black & Decker is gonna come kick my ass and take my drill away if I dare use it to construct a giant letter N to put alongside the freeway.

I don't think physical media will ever die. There will always be a niche market for them. Until the day comes where its too expensive to make pressed DVDs or Bluray is the day the optical disc dies. I don't think we're even nearing that, since DVD still out sell Blurays apparently. I remember seeing fucking DVD copies of Avengers Infinity War at Walgreens year or so ago. Insane. Discs are not going away until all of us are in are 60s or so, at least.

And even still, the various industries might just switch over to USB thumb drives or whatever. They're getting up there in capacity where its very cheap to fit a 4k HDR bluray disc on there with room to spare. You can still have your DRM schemes and it its still plug n play. Digital Downloads are still convient since you don't have to swap out thumb drives every time you want to play a different game. Or they might have it where you can copy the contents onto the internal storage or an external one for a fee. And for films, most Bluray players support mkv files. Some studios might just make them DRM free and charge an extra $20 for it.

The first real test will be when Sony shuts down the PS3 PSN, or Microsoft shuts down the Xbox 360 XBL. I would say the Vita PSN, but no one gives a shit about the Vita except me. The PS3 and Xbox 360 are the first consoles that leaned on those systems that have games people actually care about. Although there's a 50/50 chance that we'll have a repeat of the apathy when Nintendo started shutting down their old services. I saw a lot of complaints when Valve dropped Windows XP support for Steam, but a week later no one cared.

I think Sony will be the ones to pull the plug first. Microsoft are a software company, so I think it's likely they will keep a single server running in some basement somewhere. I remember hearing that id still has one official Quake server running, so it's possible.

Will probably be Sony. But a huge reason the services for 7th gen are still online is because the current iterations of PSN / Xbox Live are built on what was started then. Microsoft already ported a large number of XBLA titles to Xbox One, including online play and dlc. I'm not sure if all the servers for Xbox Live games are own by MS or are run by the companies who made the games.

 

[vertexwindi]

I'm not sure if all the servers for Xbox Live games are own by MS or are run by the companies who made the games.

Third party games run on their own servers I'm pretty sure.

 

[Les Morfalous]

Well, this is a thing now.....I guess

"Hey otherkin, remember that isometrick RPG with the really boring plot and gay fish people?Let's make a TES clone out of it!"

 

[Judge Dredd]

I'm not sure if all the servers for Xbox Live games are own by MS or are run by the companies who made the games.

Third party games run on their own servers I'm pretty sure.

I think MS runs them*. I only know that because EA did some back room handshaking to be able to run their own servers, which is why "previous year sports title" was able to shut down servers to force players to migrate to new ones.

*By servers, I assume you mean multiplayer servers. I'm guessing most games are just peer-to-peer with Live handling the matchmaking side of things. It's why you can still boot up games like Spec Ops: The Line or Dark Sector and technically start a match. I doubt Digital Extreme or Yager is maintaining servers for games nobody plays.