NPCs: Born or made?

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Corpun

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Are people born NPCs or are they molded into NPCdom? Most people seem to be genuine tards who go along with whatever someone they deem above them says. Is this something genetic and has there always been a perpetual serf or servant class of people who are genetically inclined to follow orders or are they groomed into this throughout their early life? I assume it is a mix of both but I'm not sure.

I have an idea that before the modern period all or most NPC types were the serfs of societies and the end of that era and creation of social mobility largely allowed them to move up or down the ladder. This allowed them to intermingle with various groups and the access to knowledge and education allowed some of these types to either break their programming or never get programmed in the first place. Obviously there are elite NPCs, I wouldn't be surprised if most of Hollywood is NPC bugmen going along with whatever is big, but above them people like Gates or Soros are obvious aware of shit.

What makes an NPC in the first place, how does one get made or born? Is it blind obedience to a cause or idea, is it lack of critical thinking skills, is it consuming product? Are we all NPCs on some level? On a gender level are there more men or women who are NPCs?
 
Everybody you know will, on prompting, complain about somebody else's self-awareness. (Or lack thereof) So, is everybody an NPC? Is nobody? Are you?

I think that free will is open to all, but must be seized, and once seized, cherished. At least, this fits with what I observe in the world, that is to your final question: There are unthinking men, women, whites, blacks, etc., but likewise many reasonable people to match the same descriptions.

There is no obvious biological dichotomy that defines free thought -- trends, perhaps, but no fast rules yet determined.
 
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Group mentality is a tough thing, and humans is a social creature. So you kinda want to do the things that gets you to be accepted by the herd.
 
Blasterisk said:
I think that free will is open to all, but must be seized, and once seized, cherished. At least, this fits with what I observe in the world, that is to your final question: There are unthinking men, women, whites, blacks, etc., but likewise many reasonable people to match the same descriptions.
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Said it better than I ever could. Do you think people could mass break this conditioning they are under?
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We are all NPCs with the racism unpatched aren't we?
 
I think everyone is born as NPCs. Humans are built to be information sponges, soaking up knowledge and skills then regurgitating it to spread that info. What a lot of people don't realize is that critical thinking is also skill that needs to be learned and practiced too, and without that skill then the humans are trapped in NPCdom forever sucking up and regurgitating information uncritically.

Even with critical thinking skills I suspect we are still NPCs on some level. We are slaves to information and just because you are more picky about the source of that information doent mean that you aren't just absorbing and regurgitating that information like an NPC.
 
I believe it's somewhat related to this study:

Not Everyone Conducts Inner Speech​

It's possible those who can't think for themselves (or even think to themselves) are more likely to have NPC mentality, but it doesn't seem to be clear if that's nature or nurture.

I just really found it super fascinating that when the NPC meme kicked off, it got the media and Twitter bots so fucking mad. Like why would anyone get bothered by a meme unless it hit way too close to home--or to the truth?
 
Kari Kamiya said:
I just really found it super fascinating that when the NPC meme kicked off, it got the media and Twitter bots so fucking mad. Like why would anyone get bothered by a meme unless it hit way too close to home--or to the truth?
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Is there something Twitter doesn't get mad about?
 
I think NPCs are a thing, but people (myself included) who complain about NPCs are surly douchebags.

The whole Internet meme has pretty much just turned into "Left man bad," I don't even think a lot of the radical Leftists are NPCs at all because they show a much greater deal of independent thought. Yes they're useful idiots of Globohomo, yes they're fake revolutionaries, but it takes some amount of free will for a guy to put on his Che Guevara T-shirt and start reading Marx and hitting dudes with bike locks than it takes to be a normalfaggot "Democrats are the real racists" conservative.

I also see a lot of NPCdom in hobbies, interests, humor, and all that. I think about it a lot because my friends back in college were into Internet culture, and now I work at a place where nobody gets that stuff. It's all football and basketball, music but only what's on the radio and stuff like guitars and drums, go dancing and out to bars but never to things like concerts or art exhibitions, no hobbies to speak of besides lifting weights, they play vidya but it's all shit like FIFA and GTA. They make unfunny jokes about things like the coffee machine and then laugh it up but goofy or surreal stuff falls flat on them. And they relate to each other through passive-aggression like women, fake smiles and compliments and laughter and then backbiting as soon as the other person's gone. And some of them will show a bit of independent thought, but if other people come around they'll put on that mask.

Really it's just me being a whiney faggot that other people don't share my taste, but it really does feel like most people just live to get along with other people and have no tastes, no interests, no personality that doesn't exist to advance themselves on some pyramid that exists only in their heads.

Where politics comes in is just that the kind of person who does that is also the kind of person who wouldn't be caught dead supporting Controversial Thing in public, they'll pretend to go against it and even argue against a buddy who agrees with them just to make themselves look better in some strangers' eyes. Trash.



Whoops, my rant failed to address the question.
Both. Some people are predisposed to be followers, some to leaders, some to outsiders.
But bad experiences can train a person to fall in line. David Wong at Cracked had a good article where he described how he got out of his proto-incel outcast state by learning to just put on the act.
 
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Born. Think about it like this, let's say every single person was fully capable of free thought and had no instinct to yield to authority. You would have a species that relies on communal cooperation as its main survival mechanism being comprised of nothing but leaders and no followers. Obviously, this would rapidly lead to extinction because it would be exceedingly rare for two individuals to fully agree on the best course of action, and since no one is willing to yield, there would be no cooperation. This is one of the main reasons why systems based on egalitarianism (communism, democracy, republics, capitalism, etc) have near-perfect failure rates. There is no clear structure for establishing who has the right to rule so ultimately the right to rule is determined by the actual free thinkers who can establish the largest and most fanatical band of followers. This obviously results in tyranny since one of the most practical ways to make sure you have the most powerful following is to destroy the followers of your opponents.
 
I think everyone is an NPC to some extent. We just have areas where we "de-activate" and break free of social conditioning. And areas where we fall back in as a survival tactic.

You'd be surprised at how many NPCs are actually keklords undercover. Some are really good actors who talk a big game when out in public when it comes to the hive mind. But in private? You never know.
 
It depends on your definition of NPC. Most people are just "followers" by nature, so in that sense they are born.

But then the NPC phenomenon seems to extend beyond simply being a follower to some, and in that sense they are more "made", with certain people being more prone to the conditioning than others.
 
When I think of NPC’s, I think of the A.I. rag dolls that are in those open world, sandbox video games.

When I think of real life NPC’s, I think of people that Jay used to make fun of from back in the day:

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Overall, the popular crowd in question likes to think that they‘re in control with their own thoughts and can never fall victim to mob mentality or mass conditioning through mainstream media and the like. Even intelligent people are not immune to this, since smart people really underestimate how stupid people can be encouraged to act and be more stupid because they think you’re laughing with them.

Me personally, I just do my best to try not being something that I’m not. It‘s not always perfect, but it’s not always wrong.
 
Vingle said:
Group mentality is a tough thing, and humans is a social creature. So you kinda want to do the things that gets you to be accepted by the herd.
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On the other hand, omegas/defectors tend to exist for a reason, as I've learned. If the norm bends towards unreasonable self harm to the populace or self destructive practices for adjudication, some people will notice and flee or resist.
 
Haram Exercise said:
We used to call them lemmings
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And sheeps/sheeple.

What makes an NPC in the first place,
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NPCs are uncapable of original thought, they drive by what they hear from others. I would argue there are far more right-wing NPCs than anyone is comfortable to admit, I'm thinking about the Trump cocksuckers who still think he's their messiah.

I was pro-Trump during his first election on the grounds that he had a few great ideas and the other candidate was way worse. I hit peak Trump in 2020 after his mishandling of the COVID pandemic, but I notice most Trump supporters are still sucking his ass, very fucking saddening to see honestly.

Usually another symptom to NPC programming is being unable to actually change your stand on a specific issue. Though it's only a symptom not a literal red flag like Sociopaths are usually manipulative, but some people are manipulative, but not Sociopaths and we can agree that there are obviously things that no normal person would support, like Nazism or Communism, so if your current stand is Libertarianism and you refuse to support Nazism that doesn't necessarily make you a NPC.

TL;DR: Anyone who watches Fox News or CNN and take everything they say as a fact is a NPC.
 
By the way, women are even worse about all this. It's just in their nature to be more... homogeneous. I think that's a good chunk of the angst of being a weird misfit, weird misfit women are harder to find for you and it's

I find it weird how even dudes I know who I'd describe as intellectual, at least somewhat, don't care one whit about a woman's personality beyond just that she's nice. That's like a different kind of shallow, it's not shallow like putting up with a bitch because she's pretty, but it's just changed it to "pretty and not overly repugnant to be around."

I went to this student film festival last night, and being the artistes these ought to be some of the more eccentric women, y'know, but all the men's submissions had decent stuff with plots or humor or whatever, and every woman's submission was about anxiety or body image or whatever, with long indulgent scenes of them putting on makeup/primping their hair, utter drivel. No exaggeration. So fucking boring. That's what women are. So rare to encounter one that isn't a meat-puppet.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
I just really found it super fascinating that when the NPC meme kicked off, it got the media and Twitter bots so fucking mad. Like why would anyone get bothered by a meme unless it hit way too close to home--or to the truth?
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Reminds me of the twitter post where people were amazed there are people who can mentally visualize an apple.
 
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