Null is in touch with cheese

[False and Misleading]

The cheese debate is retarded because the US is 50 countries wearing a trenchcoat. We have nice (European-imported or locally made) cheese in population centers and dairy farmland states, and plastic shit in the rest.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

He was being very hyperbolic, but I know what he means. Literally the real ubiquitous cheeses in America are extremely bland, and they're extremely bland versions of already milder versions (except swiss, which is usually sold extremely mild in the USA). Access to cheese has definitely gotten better in the past two decades, but what they sell in grocery stores is almost always a much watered-down version of that type of cheese, mass produced.

That wasn't hyperbole, he genuinely thought of the cheese section from what you might find in the refrigerated section in the Walmart or the Dollar Tree or whatever. The real cheese is sold in the deli.

Sadly, Null couldn't just admit that his view of American supermarkets comes almost entirely of People of Walmart-tier memes and eventually locked the thread when proven demonstrably wrong.

 

[Lemmingwiser]

European food isn't even my favorite, it's Asian or East Asian... but American, Canadian, and especially the UK has the worst foods.

I agree, but they aren't the worst. There is a tier below it called african food and it's obvious you've never had any. To be fair, neither have they.

 

[LeChampion1992]

American cheese slices is more a cheese product because it's basically mostly milk. Velveeta is amazing on a grilled cheese or Mac N Cheese.
That being said when you have a proper charcuterie board with them you won't see American cheese.
But that being said I like almost all cheeses except brie when unless it's in small amounts.

The biggest difference isn't even the aged cheese products. It's the stuff that's supposed to be fresh like cottage cheese, cream cheese, yoghurt, etc. Because America is so big and they transport everything across the entire country instead of producing locally they have to make everything shelf stable by mixing in a bunch of chemicals and stabilizers, that's why their cream cheese is a velveeta-like brick and their cottage cheese tastes like vomit.

Also the fact that American bread can be left out on a shelf for a couple of months and still be completely soft and without a spot of mold on it is very concerning

Mold depends on moisture. If you're in a very damp place especially climate wise your bread is going to mold fairly quickly.
If your bread is kept in a dry place it hardens before going stale. Most people forget that in the old days pre refrigeration bread would be left out to get stale vs becoming moldy. Stale hard bread is edible bread if you add moisture to it.

Especially on something internationally notorious like America's famously bad bread. What a shameful thing to defend. The cheese is bad, but America's bread is fucking horrible.

America has fresh bread and as long as you're not buying bagged bread but like fresh bread made at your bakery section of a grocery store you'll be fine. It's big problem is American bread is fairly sweet compared to European bread. Like as someone who has Asian bread, and European bread both I can say European do baguettes better and Asian sweet breads are better.

The US can't even get fucking lettuce right. You heard me. LETTUCE. FUCKING LETTUCE in other countries tastes better than the US. The shit is 70% water and foliage and they still manage to make it taste like shit.

The only foods that the US makes right are fried chicken, pizza barbecue anything, whatever you want to call New Orleans' food, and Mexican food. Everything else is shite.

Lettuce sucks even as someone whose grown their own fresh lettuce and arugula, salads suck there is a reason people drown their salads with dressings, meats, cheese's and fruits.
Lettuce is meant for herbivores not people.

sodium citrate is literally just a salt made from lemons, and american cheese is just any regular cheese with sodium citrate added. quit being a retard gorilla nigger and skipping chemistry class

Again most of the chemicals used in food preservation basically amount to salt of some form. Like watching Townsend's episodes and episodes about Victorian era cooking makes me thankful we have modern preservation methods.

The cheese debate is retarded because the US is 50 countries wearing a trenchcoat. We have nice (European-imported or locally made) cheese in population centers and dairy farmland states, and plastic shit in the rest.

I mean the cheese debate is stupid because America has its own regional cheese debate. You have Cojita cheese in the southwest along with Monterey Jack cheese, and pepper jack.

Go to the Midwest it's Limburger cheese, bries, and etc...

Go to Vermont/New England and it's either Italian cheeses or Vermont cheddar.

The south tends to use things like Velveeta as because of the intense summer heat and lack of cool places our cheese culture was basically hard cheddar from up north.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

null is right in part in that the cheese the average american eats is garbage goyslop poison. However, I still disagree regarding availability. The availability is there it is just most Americans choose not to and prefer their goycheese milk product.

 

[Lidl Drip]

Mold depends on moisture. If you're in a very damp place especially climate wise your bread is going to mold fairly quickly.
If your bread is kept in a dry place it hardens before going stale. Most people forget that in the old days pre refrigeration bread would be left out to get stale vs becoming moldy. Stale hard bread is edible bread if you add moisture to it.

They add preservatives like propionic acid to the bread in the US to make it last longer and be shelf stable and soft for days. Try baking your own bread and sitting it next to a loaf from Walmart and see which one molds faster if you don't believe me.

 

[LeChampion1992]

They add preservatives like propionic acid to the bread in the US to make it last longer and be shelf stable and soft for days. Try baking your own bread and sitting it next to a loaf from Walmart and see which one molds faster if you don't believe me.

Propionic acid is derived from meats and cheeses. You're probably not using cheese extracts when baking the dough, another thing you have to think about most bread that goes moldy is also in a damp place usually in a plastic bag. Putting your bread in paper will dry it out but you won't get it moldy and you can remoist hard bread and save money. I mean if you understand bread preservation wait til you hear how organic hard tack was meant to last years in its state.

 

[Lidl Drip]

Propionic acid is derived from meats and cheeses. You're probably not using cheese extracts when baking the dough, another thing you have to think about most bread that goes moldy is also in a damp place usually in a plastic bag. Putting your bread in paper will dry it out but you won't get it moldy and you can remoist hard bread and save money. I mean if you understand bread preservation wait til you hear how organic hard tack was meant to last years in its state.

Dude I have eaten bread my entire life, I bake my own bread, I know how to store bread. Industrially produced foods have preservatives in them to make them last longer, which is why making your own food at home is better. Idk why this is a novel concept to you.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8834264

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

I agree, but they aren't the worst. There is a tier below it called african food and it's obvious you've never had any. To be fair, neither have they.

You are incorrect in all presumptions

 

[Uncle Phil]

I don't care about food-opinions from someone as fat as null. He only feels strongly about this because he inhales cheese at a rate that would make a normal human being shit their pants.

Just FYI if your guts are healthy then cheese doesn't make you shit, it does the opposite and stereotypically makes you constipated.

One of the reasons people have wine and cheese is because protein firms your bowels up and keeps you from shitting yourself when you're day-drinking. Same reason bars have pickled eggs for the alcoholics that show up at 9am to start the day's beer-swilling.

 

[PandaChai]

Null has said that the UK "has the government they deserve", well the US has the cheese it deserves.

 

[Misericordia]

Publix isn't a "fancy" grocery store, it's the biggest chain the the southeast. I guess you can get cheese from a dollar general and say that it defines what American food is like. Our food supply isn't the greatest, but it's not hard to find good food, and every hillbilly has a vehicle and can drive 2 hours to the nearest metropolitan area and find a Whole Foods if he really is stuck in Walmart world. We have farmers' markets. You can buy raw milk if you really want it.