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Christ, CWCville is part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe now.
Null's Gambit - My attempt at getting Chris to talk openly
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CWC's trainwreck of a life is a "perfect storm" of factors like:
The internet is a pretty big factor though.
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Eulenspiegel
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Yeah, I heard that one too. Makes you really autistic over time!
That's why hardly anyone uses it on a regular basis nowadays.
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I really hope that Barb becomes aware of the term "Barbage" before her inevitable demise (that is to say, sometime in the next 25 years). That's the kind of thing that would really chap her lower-middle-class hide, I wager.
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It isn't just Chris... A lot of people have invested their egos into being associated with Chris and have made money on by promoting his escapades online or by actively ripping him off. I think that a lot of people have a vested interest in propping Chris up so he can keep the exploitation train running. All of the potholes Chris hits... police trouble, banning, trolling, extortion, money problems, anger issues, delusions, etc... all of this is grist for the mill. A whole subculture has been set up to feed off of it. And without Chris, the Christorical Figures will go back to being just regular people, the documentaries and interviews will fade into memory, and the traffic at the websites and youtube commentators channels will fall. There's a cottage industry built around maintaining Chris in a quasi-functional state so he can keep on bungling for the audience. He doesn't really benefit from it, we do.
Chris is not getting better. He is only able to continue to live with Barb because of the routine chores Bob implanted into his skull through repetition over the years. When Barb is gone, he will be incapable of reinventing himself. He's autistic. He doesn't take to change well. He says he wants to live on his own, but that just means he wants to live exactly like he does now, just without Barb's chores. That's the way he thinks. He isn't mentally capable of thinking any other way. And that would lead to an inevitable car crash of problems for him. And it will be much worse than just embarrassing videos posted on the internet or people calling his phone and yelling JULAY!
It's painfully obvious that Chris belongs in a group home where he can have social interaction with real people, not people pretending to be different kinds of people on the internet and exploiting him for their own gain. It was fun when the internet was just a window into the life of a unique individual. It's become something entirely different. Now, forces on the internet are manipulating and exploiting Chris like a tug of war and that isn't fun to watch. It doesn't matter if they have bad intent or they're white knights. We're not just individuals looking at the tiger in his enclosure any more. We're a crowd of people poking the tiger with a stick and throwing things at it. The internet fame has made it impossible for Chris to have any independent real world friendships. Who wants to be real life friends with a guy when his followers on the internet will probe into every aspect of your life and make your internet presence miserable? Real people would just say it isn't worth the trouble to get anywhere near the spotlight. The only people who will jump in are the ones who want to steal the limelight and exploit Chris.
Perhaps instead of just asking "Is Chris getting any better?", we should also ask "Are we getting any better?" I know no one here has any responsibility to help or even care about Chris. But we shouldn't fool ourselves into believing that Chris would be the same without all the internet attention, because that is pretty clearly not true. We made him what he is.
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Dude, you really hit the nail on the head. I wish I could rate that post Like, Agree, Thunkful, and Feels.
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He does have real-world friendships though - don't ask me how. They haven't been doxed yet either.
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I'm glad to hear that. Hopefully they'll be there to help when he's forced to turn a corner in his life. The internet can help him do stupid stuff like go to conventions and pay for toys, but it can't help Chris in the way that he really needs it.
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We're not supposed to. That's not our place.
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You weren’t supposed to manipulate a mentally handicapped person into an infamous caricature of autism. It wasn’t your place then. Not throwing shade but facts are facts. If you feel it’s not your place then I would leave Chris alone. Whether it is y’all or someone like the two twits nobody should be manipulating Chris. It’s gonna blow up in your face.
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How long ago was it when he actually trolled Chris though? Most christorical figures here haven't really trolled him in years.
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I think there's something of a difference between messing with Chris during Bob's tenure and post Bob. Neither of them are good, of course, but when Bob was around, Chris was safe, happy and financially secure. Things are very different nowadays.
But point taken.
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I agree. Bob was an anchor. Chris doesn't have that any more and he's heading for a major change in his life. No one online can help him in the way he really needs it any more. It's out of all of our leagues. I think everyone should back off, the spotlight should be taken off of Chris, and his real life friends should be allowed to step in to prepare him and help him navigate through it. At this point, the internet fame isn't doing anyone any good. Chris is done. We should turn the lights off and let him move on to the next stage of his life peacefully. He's given me a lot of entertainment and I really appreciate it. That's enough. I don't need more at his expense.
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The other side of the coin is that Chris was always an autistic wreck. He was acting like this all his life; and people just picked up on it through the internet. I don't doubt that the internet has been a harmful influence in his life, but it's also been a way for him to have social interaction outside his house beyond people quickly averting their eyes or trying to ignore the autistic manchild in a ratty skirt. The tranny phase could have been avoided, but the inflated ego and inability to act like a normal human being was innate to him. When you look over the events of the last 10 years, with the exception of the recent extortion, it's entirely possible that he'd end up very similar to the person he is now, just with less hair.
He makes money off of Patreon, and sold the stupid medalions. You have Schlitzi as your icon, so couldn't Chris be considered his own freakshow? The majority of people coming to freakshows weren't there to give money to the guy with no appendages, they just wanted something to ooh and ahh at. Those don't happen in society now, obviously, but KF is like that with free admission. There were "pinheads" that had no concept that they were the punchline, but doing the circus circuit was a way for them to have more of a life than they would ever have in a sanitarium or other facility. Being able to have some semblance of life outside of a strict schedule kept within the walls of a place you have no say in is all some of these people could ever ask for. Exploitive, yes, but better than the other option.
The difference is that the freaks made sure the other freaks were taken care of, especially if one couldn't communicate how they felt effectively. Nobody would put another autist in charge of Chris, but when Barb shuffles off the mortal coil, he's largely unsupervised. If Chris isn't forced to go into a group home or find a proper tard wrangler, he won't. Unless something happens on the legal end of things or there's something specified in Barb's will - which I can guarantee there isn't - nobody can make him budge.
But if the lights were to turn off, what then? He wouldn't magically become functional and there's only so much friends can do unless Chris puts himself or others in serious danger. He likes the attention, and for better or for worse, the internet is where he gets the majority of it from. Without the internet, the money dries up, he gets little social interaction, and nobody can force the change in his life that he desperately needs. It's unfortunate, but that's the situation that everyone has had in has created. Losing Barb will be devastating for Chris, internet or no.
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The thing is, I don't think that's really possible. I think it'd be more possible if Chris wasn't making money, hand over fist, from the internet.
The internet displaces legitimate social interaction for Chris. Chris can't really tell the difference between internet friends and IRL friends, quality wise. However internet friends are at worst, extremely malicious, and at best, mocking Chris because they consider him a game.
When you take the internet away, Chris is forced to go outside and seek out friends himself. And he does do this. He's done it several times, successfully. And with his most recent friends, he hasn't doxed them. I think at best people have guessed who they are based on his facebook friends list.
The idea that Chris is lonely is a fiction sold to people by the cwcki. People assume that if we don't hear public mention of something in Chris' life (like him having friends) then it doesn't exist.
I think the people who buy that perspective are unaware of the large, parallel world of neckbeard society. It exists. Neckbeards get lonely too, and as much as people joke about basement dwellers, they're not actually much of a phenomenon. People like Hirtes are extremely rare. (At least in the US. Maybe if this were Japan there'd be more NEETs.) Or maybe if Chris was in Nebraska he might be the only nerd in a hour's drive. But a big suburban area, like Charlottesville, on the east coast? Chris does just fine.
After PVCC, Chris first made friends with Megan. Then he made friends with the Wallflower. And then he started going to the gay club. And he started attending card games and made friends there. And he's got other friends in another part of Virginia.
Internet socialization displaces these opportunities for Chris because he feels content with the status quo.
The events of the past 10 years are bad when the internet gets involved. When the internet isn't involved, Chris does just fine. Or fine enough for his tastes, anyway.
It's not our place to decide what's good for Chris, especially because we don't know anything about Chris' daily life.
Chris will trundle along.
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Fair enough, I'll be the first to admit not knowing the most about Chris and not keeping up with him as much as others. It certainly looks unfortunate from my perspective, but I'm definitely not wishing ill-will towards him. In some aspects, he's at least learned to some extent not to constantly share every single bad thing that happens to him, unlike some other cows.
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Absolutely. No argument. Chris isn't capable of dealing with normal life issues. And losing Barb will be devastating for sure. I'm looking forward to the next horizon... Chris will not be able to recover and establish a workable and healthy lifestyle just on internet fame. His problem isn't money. He's got the tugboat. His problem is that he needs in person supervision. There are too many internet "friends" with their own vested interests in keeping the lolcow accessible. They know that the first thing that a group home would do is to strictly monitor internet usage. That would cut all of the people who benefit from Chris's hijinks out and leave them with nothing. That isn't a popular option with the crowd around Chris on the internet.
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Any examples?
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