Of Race and Resentment - Just some ponderings

What's the point of fighting back against something as nebulous as race? Do you actually think you have internalized racial self-hatred, or do you think you're just fed up with obvious bullshit? Thinking internally through a racial lens will just cause mental strife. It doesn't make sense. So just stop, relax, and make some nice hot cocoa.

It's probably more of the later since @MarvinTheParanoidAndroid is right, I'd still be curling up instead of lashing back. There's not much I can do about schools and colleges brainwashing kids with this crap other than hope those kids wise up someday so it's not worth obsessing over that, either. Anyway, thanks for listening to me.
 
It's probably more of the later since @MarvinTheParanoidAndroid is right, I'd still be curling up instead of lashing back. There's not much I can do about schools and colleges brainwashing kids with this crap other than hope those kids wise up someday so it's not worth obsessing over that, either. Anyway, thanks for listening to me.
Where do you live, Portland? I'm from [liberal city in liberal state] and attend [state university in liberal state], and I don't feel like I've been brainwashed into having massive amounts of white guilt. I think you need more time at the psychiatrist and I don't mean that to be condescending, it sounds like you're overfixating on this issue to an unhealthy degree.
 
I've met some of the SJW types that talk loud on the internet. Let me tell you the ones I've met in meat space are spineless. They talk a big talk but they'll never really get any where.

I'm white passing and grew up in the brownest town this side of Mexico, my mother is too. We don't speak Spanish that well, and when people give us shit we tell them we're American so we speak English. They can hate me for my pasty ass and call me a race traitor, but in the end it dosen't mean shit because they're all talk.
 
when you are better than others, people who havent achieved as muchas you, are always going to hate you, just for that reason alone.
there's no point in wasting time listening to the rants of people, who are bitter losers and nothing else.
No race is without sin, so the whole white guilt argument is stupid to begin with.
 
I'm quite curious about the race deal in America, since we have it very differently here. How much does it actually influence your everyday life? When you're interacting with a person of a different race, is that difference an automatic thought or do you not care?
 
Care to elaborate? I could see those people being massive hypocrites, but why even pretend to be an ally of people you think are inherently worse than yourself?
Racism doesn't require that you dislike the people you are being racist against, or want to see them fail. In the case of a lot of white allies, it simply means thinking that a certain race needs you to advocate for them or protect them because 1.) They can't do it effectively by themselves and 2.) Every single one of them should want the same thing. A good example is the idea that wearing long fingernails and big earrings is cultural appropriation against black and latino people. Not all black and latino women are chewing-gum smacking, hoop earring wearing, frito-corn-chip-nailed DMV workers. Certainly not enough to be their culture. That's a pretty racist caricature that white allies are happy to paint on behalf of someone else.
 
I'm quite curious about the race deal in America, since we have it very differently here. How much does it actually influence your everyday life? When you're interacting with a person of a different race, is that difference an automatic thought or do you not care?

Race is probably the first thing people notice about another person, because it's their salient characteristic, especially if they're a different race than you. People also have terrible ability to identify individual members of other races and say things like "they all look alike," because they focus on the shared identifying characteristics of the race rather than how the person differs from the norm. That's why eyewitness testimony where someone identifies someone of a different race as a perpetrator is often garbage.

If you don't put aside these prejudices when someone clearly isn't just a stereotype but a typical person, you're going to have problems in a modern society where you actually have to deal with them.
 
I'm quite curious about the race deal in America, since we have it very differently here. How much does it actually influence your everyday life? When you're interacting with a person of a different race, is that difference an automatic thought or do you not care?
It depends on the situation.

While segregation as an official policy has dwindled down to the high schools in the south that still have a black prom and a white prom, America has a lot of de facto segregation. There are a lot of places and activities and hobbies that are very heavily weighted toward certain groups.

For example, I am in a science fiction club (I know, I know), and when a black person showed up to a meeting, I was really shocked, because black people just aren't that into science fiction. I went to a science fiction convention and I saw more people wearing yarmulkes (e.g. religious Jewish males) than black people, even though one group makes up a significantly larger part of the US population than the other. But when I go to the mall and see black people, is it shocking or noticeable? Not really, because that's not a racially segregated activity, and you also see plenty of Asians, Muslims, Hispanics, and white people at the mall.
 
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Where do you live, Portland? I'm from [liberal city in liberal state] and attend [state university in liberal state], and I don't feel like I've been brainwashed into having massive amounts of white guilt. I think you need more time at the psychiatrist and I don't mean that to be condescending, it sounds like you're overfixating on this issue to an unhealthy degree.
Don't worry, you're not being condescending since I'm seeing him on a weekly basis to come to terms with some long-buried anger and resentment that manifested in different ways that just latched on to different things (autism doesn't help when getting fixated on stuff and I don't like using it as an reason). Society can be messed you up, and you just have to some times let your feelings out.
 
But when I go to the mall and see black people, is it shocking or noticeable? Not really, because that's not a racially segregated activity, and you also see plenty of Asians, Muslims, Hispanics, and white people at the mall.

lol, where I live there is one mall that is the designated black people mall. Crunchy Leaf is right about de facto segregation, but I would add that the lines are drawn as much by economic class or location as they are by race. Like a black guy who grew up in the suburbs or a rural area will probably feel more at home around white people for example. Tribal divisions definitely exist here, despite what anyone tells you.

Also it's worth noting that SJW types are nearly all upper middle class or above. The people who really get shit on by the system are just trying to survive, they don't give a fuck about microaggressions or whatever.
 
Meh, all this stuff in education rolled off me and I was totally non-racist until I got my first shitty job. I'm sure it does have an effect on some people though. To be fair it may be that it wasn't as intense when I was in school as it is today.
 
Colleges seem to really have it out for whites these days.

They should just have Kill Whitey 101 as the first class everyone has to take, and the final exam is just all the white people in the class getting ass raped by black guys over and over while they beg for forgiveness. So the class is 1% based on oral examination, 1% based on class participation, 1% written, and 97% anal examination.
 
Colleges seem to really have it out for whites these days.
Oh, come on, it's Campus Reform. I trust them to be unbiased about as much as I trust some SJW's tumblr, that is to say, not at all. They're very conservative: they want college campuses to be full of guns, they're anti-abortion, they don't think sweatshops existing have anything to do with capitalism, they're for a guy who thinks women and minorities are inherently lesser. If that's the sort of thing you believe in, then, okay, but if you don't I'm not sure they're the best source.
 
There is no remotely unbiased analysis, you have to just try to read the story itself and see what's been confirmed elsewhere regardless of the source. It's very time consuming and frustrating.
 
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I don't feel I'm responsible for any action I haven't committed personally. If someone has a beef with me over my background, that's their problem.
Like I said before, true racism is thinking of someone as being automatically accountable for everything bad done by others who happen to have the same skin color as them. As you can tell, I don't buy that "you can't be racist against white people" bullshit.

Also why is skin color such a big deal to some anyway? It's just color.
 
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Yeah, I'm part white-devil and part "honnory white".

I am disappoint. You aren't being Jap enough. Nor are you being white enough. When you're a hapa halfbreed, you are ultimate genetic mix. Think of all the things our ancestors have done - both white and slanty. If someone could build an ultimate human, they would be hapas. You shouldn't ever feel guilty for your race - white people have done awesome stuff. You have to break a few eggs to make a cake.
 
The funny thing is that those that are resentful may claim that they are not affected by the anti-white messages, but in a way, they might be.

The reason I'm bringing this up is to get some of my own feelings out when I discovered I am one of the resenters (my shrink helped me realize this).

Tell me if I misunderstand what you wrote, but you're saying that when someone accusing you of something that is not you fault and you feel angry about it, it is your "self-hate" at work, and that your shrink suggested this interpretation to you. It does not make a lick of sense -- why not the more straightforward explanation, that you feel angry simply because you're wrongly blamed, and that you suspect being wrongly blamed can have bad consequences for you? Your shrink's interpretation is like telling someone who rightfully and vehemently denies being a thief for secretly wanting to be a thief, citing his denial as "evidence" that he is wrangling with "self-hate".

Anger has a bad press. Surely it is not the most pleasant emotion to have, but it has its places. Anger indicates instances where you have suffered from (or is in danger of experiencing) harm, including harm in status and privilege. Niggers and liberals are shamelessly divesting us, limiting us freedom of speech, education and employment opportunities (affirmative action) and feeding us propaganda. It is natural and healthy to feel angry. But this anger is only healthy when it is directed to the correct source; it becomes maladaptive if it is misdirected or become generalized.

So when your therapist inform you about where your resentment "really" came from, did you feel any better? I suspect No, because he or she is directing your anger to the wrong source.
 
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