Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%
  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%
  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%

  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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All you commie dicksucking cocksuckers who think Trump's contesting of the election is somehow anti-American make me laugh. There's nothing more American than tearing apart overbearing global empires. A true patriot would recognize when it's time to take the country he loves back behind the shed and put it out of its misery.
Redneck logic: "Can't lose my country to communism (taps forehead) if I Old Yeller it first."
 
It’s thirty elections. It’s been a standing tradition for over 30 election cycles and that’s more than 50% of all the American presidential elections ever held. It’s been done since the use of communication methods faster than letter writing and post delivery, i.e. telegraph, became standard and commonplace for relaying important news.
I mean, if you want to look at it in those terms, sure, I'll concede the difference.
 
Analyzing 2020 Voter Fraud Claims

There have been countless claims regarding voter fraud that have gone viral and have been promoted by the President and his legal team. Many of these are easily proven false, which says a lot about the credibility of the people promoting them. Eventually, when someone keeps crying wolf, they clearly aren’t very serious about looking for actual wolves. Here are 12 examples:

  1. Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump, and some PA legislators have suggested that there were 700K more absentee ballots returned than were sent out. Specifically, Rudy claimed that only 1.8 million ballots had been sent out, but nearly 2.6 million ballots returned. A quick search would have revealed that the 1,823,148 mail ballots had been sent out during the primary. The state sent out 3,087,524 ballots for the general election.
  2. The President’s legal team and allies have also repeatedly claimed that several Michigan precincts in Wayne County had more voters than were registered. This is another claim that is easy to check and was not accurate. The origin for the claim, which was first debunked by the right-leaning Powerline blog, appears to be a data analysis submitted as an affidavit in a court case where the author used old Minnesota data and listed it as Michigan data. That author, Russ Ramsland, also happens to be the main source that Sidney Powell cites in her lawsuit to support her claim of a Dominion software conspiracy. Actually voter turnout in Wayne County was 62.44%. The data is easily available by precinct.
  3. Giuliani also claimed there were multiple Wisconsin precincts with more voters than were registered. This claim would also be easily verifiable, but it was false. It appears they were looking at registration numbers from the 2018 midterms and comparing them to voters in the 2020 election turnout. There were also claims that Wisconsin voter turnout was unusually or unreasonably high, but that’s because the comparisons often used registration numbers that didn’t account for Wisconsin allowing for registrations on election day.
  4. Another popular claim that has gone viral is that Biden only improved on Hillary’s margins in 4 major cities so it would be impossible for him to have done much better than her. National Review’s Dan Mclaughlin does an excellent job debunking this claim. Dan looked at 36 counties incorporating large cities across the country (excluding New York and California since those states were still counting votes), and found Biden improved over Hillary’s margin in 31 of them. Biden’s growth overwhelmingly came from suburbs surrounding these cities.
  5. Another viral claim that originated from a Trump campaign adviser was that Georgia had 95,801 Biden-only ballots, but only 818 Trump-only ballots. The source of this claim is a comparison in votes between the Presidential and Senate races. The mistake here is obvious. Biden getting 95,801 more votes than the Democrat Senate candidate does not mean that all of those ballots just had Biden filled in. Instead, split-ticket voting is a far more likely explanation for the margin. In fact, since there was only a 46,628 vote gap between the Presidential and Senate races, we know for a fact that the claim of 95,801 only-Biden votes is not correct.
  6. Donald Trump and countless others suggested there was something nefarious about Biden receiving a dump of 143,379 votes at 3:42 am on election night. Others claim that Trump received no votes in that voter dump. In reality, these ballots were not exclusively for Biden and everyone knew that this bucket of votes was coming and would be predominantly for Biden. This batch of votes represented the absentee ballots from Milwaukee County. Milwaukee officials had announced earlier in the night exactly how many votes they would be counting (~170k) and those who were watching the news at that time on election night would have even witnessed the police escort as county officials rushed to report the results to the county courthouse. In fact, I personally tweeted as 3 am that the Milwaukee absentee ballots would “drop shortly” and give us a better indication of the race in Wisconsin since it was clear these ballots would mostly go for Biden and Trump was holding onto a small lead at that time.
  7. Another viral claim that originated on election night and was eventually promoted by President Trump was that 138,339 votes were magically added to Biden in Michigan. While it’s true that the numbers temporarily reflected a major boost for Biden, the source of the dispute was an extra 0 on 15,137 Biden votes being added during the reporting process by officials in Shiawassee County before the data was transmitted to DecisionDeskHQ. While DDHQ reported the numbers as they were transmitted, the mistake was noticed by state officials within 20 minutes and changed before it was officially reported out.
  8. A viral video from election day, which was later amplified by Eric Trump, claimed to show someone burning 80 Trump ballots in Virginia. However, the city of Virginia Beach came forward shortly after noting that the ballots in question were actually just sample ballots, as is clear because they lack the bar codes contained on official ballots.
  9. A claim that has been widely circulating on right-leaning sites and Twitter is that a bunch of cities mysteriously stopped counting their ballots on election night without explanation. Sidney Powell incorporated this in her conspiracy to claim that the secret algorithm meant to switch votes to Biden was so overwhelmed by the huge margins for Trump that it overloaded and thus caused the shutdowns in counting. However, it simply is not true that a bunch of cities in swing states stops counting during election night. There was one clear example of one precinct in Fulton County Georgia that stopped counting for 4 hours due to a reported pipe bursting. There have been some questions raised about the seriousness of the leak and whether it really required such a long delay, but this was not a widespread occurrence. In Philadelphia, one reporter had claimed that officials had stopped counting and that claim was eventually picked up by several media outlets, but that same reporter later retracted and corrected it to say that counting would continue.
  10. Certain large accounts posted a viral claim suggesting thousands of dead voters cast their ballots in Michigan. Several news organizations went through various names on this list and all of them found that the list was overwhelmingly based on mixing up different records. CNN reviewed 50 of the names on the list (the first 25 names and 25 more at random) and found 37 of them were dead but had not voted, 5 were alive but had not voted, and 8 were alive and voted. The BBC picked 31 names on another viral list. Only 3 of them were deceased. In 2 of those cases, their sons voted, but their votes were recorded under the names of their deceased fathers. In the third case, the woman died after she had sent in her ballot. The clerk is supposed to disqualify such ballots, but it was not clear if they did. Tucker Carlson was forced to apologize on-air after citing a claim of a dead Georgia voter casting a ballot only to discover that it was in fact the voter’s widow that had cast the ballot for herself.
  11. Several videos from vote processing centers after election day showed election workers filling out ballots. Social media posts automatically suggested there was something fraudulent going on. In reality, these were election workers creating marked duplicate ballots for those that otherwise were damaged or could not be read by the tabulation machines. This is a standard procedure in each election for damaged ballots. The video also zooms in to cut out the bipartisan observers that are standing near the desk to watch the process.
  12. Another accusation that went viral on election day was that election officials in Maricopa County Arizona were intentionally invalidating predominantly Trump votes by providing voters with sharpies to use on their ballots. Arizona’s State Attorney General confirmed after investigation that the use of sharpies did not invalidate any votes in Maricopa County.
Of course these examples do not include the baseless conspiracies promoted by Sidney Powell of a secret CIA-fueled algorithm that magically transferred millions of votes from Trump to Biden. None of this means, as some who choose to kill straw man arguments would suggest, that there was no voter fraud. It simply means that based on available evidence, any fraud that occurred was not at the level at which it would have impacted the outcome of the election and that those promoting these claims are not vetting them in a way that would suggest they actually care about getting to the truth.
 
Analyzing 2020 Voter Fraud Claims

There have been countless claims regarding voter fraud that have gone viral and have been promoted by the President and his legal team. Many of these are easily proven false, which says a lot about the credibility of the people promoting them. Eventually, when someone keeps crying wolf, they clearly aren’t very serious about looking for actual wolves. Here are 12 examples:

  1. Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump, and some PA legislators have suggested that there were 700K more absentee ballots returned than were sent out. Specifically, Rudy claimed that only 1.8 million ballots had been sent out, but nearly 2.6 million ballots returned. A quick search would have revealed that the 1,823,148 mail ballots had been sent out during the primary. The state sent out 3,087,524 ballots for the general election.
  2. The President’s legal team and allies have also repeatedly claimed that several Michigan precincts in Wayne County had more voters than were registered. This is another claim that is easy to check and was not accurate. The origin for the claim, which was first debunked by the right-leaning Powerline blog, appears to be a data analysis submitted as an affidavit in a court case where the author used old Minnesota data and listed it as Michigan data. That author, Russ Ramsland, also happens to be the main source that Sidney Powell cites in her lawsuit to support her claim of a Dominion software conspiracy. Actually voter turnout in Wayne County was 62.44%. The data is easily available by precinct.
  3. Giuliani also claimed there were multiple Wisconsin precincts with more voters than were registered. This claim would also be easily verifiable, but it was false. It appears they were looking at registration numbers from the 2018 midterms and comparing them to voters in the 2020 election turnout. There were also claims that Wisconsin voter turnout was unusually or unreasonably high, but that’s because the comparisons often used registration numbers that didn’t account for Wisconsin allowing for registrations on election day.
  4. Another popular claim that has gone viral is that Biden only improved on Hillary’s margins in 4 major cities so it would be impossible for him to have done much better than her. National Review’s Dan Mclaughlin does an excellent job debunking this claim. Dan looked at 36 counties incorporating large cities across the country (excluding New York and California since those states were still counting votes), and found Biden improved over Hillary’s margin in 31 of them. Biden’s growth overwhelmingly came from suburbs surrounding these cities.
  5. Another viral claim that originated from a Trump campaign adviser was that Georgia had 95,801 Biden-only ballots, but only 818 Trump-only ballots. The source of this claim is a comparison in votes between the Presidential and Senate races. The mistake here is obvious. Biden getting 95,801 more votes than the Democrat Senate candidate does not mean that all of those ballots just had Biden filled in. Instead, split-ticket voting is a far more likely explanation for the margin. In fact, since there was only a 46,628 vote gap between the Presidential and Senate races, we know for a fact that the claim of 95,801 only-Biden votes is not correct.
  6. Donald Trump and countless others suggested there was something nefarious about Biden receiving a dump of 143,379 votes at 3:42 am on election night. Others claim that Trump received no votes in that voter dump. In reality, these ballots were not exclusively for Biden and everyone knew that this bucket of votes was coming and would be predominantly for Biden. This batch of votes represented the absentee ballots from Milwaukee County. Milwaukee officials had announced earlier in the night exactly how many votes they would be counting (~170k) and those who were watching the news at that time on election night would have even witnessed the police escort as county officials rushed to report the results to the county courthouse. In fact, I personally tweeted as 3 am that the Milwaukee absentee ballots would “drop shortly” and give us a better indication of the race in Wisconsin since it was clear these ballots would mostly go for Biden and Trump was holding onto a small lead at that time.
  7. Another viral claim that originated on election night and was eventually promoted by President Trump was that 138,339 votes were magically added to Biden in Michigan. While it’s true that the numbers temporarily reflected a major boost for Biden, the source of the dispute was an extra 0 on 15,137 Biden votes being added during the reporting process by officials in Shiawassee County before the data was transmitted to DecisionDeskHQ. While DDHQ reported the numbers as they were transmitted, the mistake was noticed by state officials within 20 minutes and changed before it was officially reported out.
  8. A viral video from election day, which was later amplified by Eric Trump, claimed to show someone burning 80 Trump ballots in Virginia. However, the city of Virginia Beach came forward shortly after noting that the ballots in question were actually just sample ballots, as is clear because they lack the bar codes contained on official ballots.
  9. A claim that has been widely circulating on right-leaning sites and Twitter is that a bunch of cities mysteriously stopped counting their ballots on election night without explanation. Sidney Powell incorporated this in her conspiracy to claim that the secret algorithm meant to switch votes to Biden was so overwhelmed by the huge margins for Trump that it overloaded and thus caused the shutdowns in counting. However, it simply is not true that a bunch of cities in swing states stops counting during election night. There was one clear example of one precinct in Fulton County Georgia that stopped counting for 4 hours due to a reported pipe bursting. There have been some questions raised about the seriousness of the leak and whether it really required such a long delay, but this was not a widespread occurrence. In Philadelphia, one reporter had claimed that officials had stopped counting and that claim was eventually picked up by several media outlets, but that same reporter later retracted and corrected it to say that counting would continue.
  10. Certain large accounts posted a viral claim suggesting thousands of dead voters cast their ballots in Michigan. Several news organizations went through various names on this list and all of them found that the list was overwhelmingly based on mixing up different records. CNN reviewed 50 of the names on the list (the first 25 names and 25 more at random) and found 37 of them were dead but had not voted, 5 were alive but had not voted, and 8 were alive and voted. The BBC picked 31 names on another viral list. Only 3 of them were deceased. In 2 of those cases, their sons voted, but their votes were recorded under the names of their deceased fathers. In the third case, the woman died after she had sent in her ballot. The clerk is supposed to disqualify such ballots, but it was not clear if they did. Tucker Carlson was forced to apologize on-air after citing a claim of a dead Georgia voter casting a ballot only to discover that it was in fact the voter’s widow that had cast the ballot for herself.
  11. Several videos from vote processing centers after election day showed election workers filling out ballots. Social media posts automatically suggested there was something fraudulent going on. In reality, these were election workers creating marked duplicate ballots for those that otherwise were damaged or could not be read by the tabulation machines. This is a standard procedure in each election for damaged ballots. The video also zooms in to cut out the bipartisan observers that are standing near the desk to watch the process.
  12. Another accusation that went viral on election day was that election officials in Maricopa County Arizona were intentionally invalidating predominantly Trump votes by providing voters with sharpies to use on their ballots. Arizona’s State Attorney General confirmed after investigation that the use of sharpies did not invalidate any votes in Maricopa County.
Of course these examples do not include the baseless conspiracies promoted by Sidney Powell of a secret CIA-fueled algorithm that magically transferred millions of votes from Trump to Biden. None of this means, as some who choose to kill straw man arguments would suggest, that there was no voter fraud. It simply means that based on available evidence, any fraud that occurred was not at the level at which it would have impacted the outcome of the election and that those promoting these claims are not vetting them in a way that would suggest they actually care about getting to the truth.
Well researched, informative, and laid out quite well too. Kudos to you, this is way higher quality than I usually see here.

EDIT: Even if it isn’t your work it’s still really good
 
Analyzing 2020 Voter Fraud Claims

There have been countless claims regarding voter fraud that have gone viral and have been promoted by the President and his legal team. Many of these are easily proven false, which says a lot about the credibility of the people promoting them. Eventually, when someone keeps crying wolf, they clearly aren’t very serious about looking for actual wolves. Here are 12 examples:

  1. Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump, and some PA legislators have suggested that there were 700K more absentee ballots returned than were sent out. Specifically, Rudy claimed that only 1.8 million ballots had been sent out, but nearly 2.6 million ballots returned. A quick search would have revealed that the 1,823,148 mail ballots had been sent out during the primary. The state sent out 3,087,524 ballots for the general election.
  2. The President’s legal team and allies have also repeatedly claimed that several Michigan precincts in Wayne County had more voters than were registered. This is another claim that is easy to check and was not accurate. The origin for the claim, which was first debunked by the right-leaning Powerline blog, appears to be a data analysis submitted as an affidavit in a court case where the author used old Minnesota data and listed it as Michigan data. That author, Russ Ramsland, also happens to be the main source that Sidney Powell cites in her lawsuit to support her claim of a Dominion software conspiracy. Actually voter turnout in Wayne County was 62.44%. The data is easily available by precinct.
  3. Giuliani also claimed there were multiple Wisconsin precincts with more voters than were registered. This claim would also be easily verifiable, but it was false. It appears they were looking at registration numbers from the 2018 midterms and comparing them to voters in the 2020 election turnout. There were also claims that Wisconsin voter turnout was unusually or unreasonably high, but that’s because the comparisons often used registration numbers that didn’t account for Wisconsin allowing for registrations on election day.
  4. Another popular claim that has gone viral is that Biden only improved on Hillary’s margins in 4 major cities so it would be impossible for him to have done much better than her. National Review’s Dan Mclaughlin does an excellent job debunking this claim. Dan looked at 36 counties incorporating large cities across the country (excluding New York and California since those states were still counting votes), and found Biden improved over Hillary’s margin in 31 of them. Biden’s growth overwhelmingly came from suburbs surrounding these cities.
  5. Another viral claim that originated from a Trump campaign adviser was that Georgia had 95,801 Biden-only ballots, but only 818 Trump-only ballots. The source of this claim is a comparison in votes between the Presidential and Senate races. The mistake here is obvious. Biden getting 95,801 more votes than the Democrat Senate candidate does not mean that all of those ballots just had Biden filled in. Instead, split-ticket voting is a far more likely explanation for the margin. In fact, since there was only a 46,628 vote gap between the Presidential and Senate races, we know for a fact that the claim of 95,801 only-Biden votes is not correct.
  6. Donald Trump and countless others suggested there was something nefarious about Biden receiving a dump of 143,379 votes at 3:42 am on election night. Others claim that Trump received no votes in that voter dump. In reality, these ballots were not exclusively for Biden and everyone knew that this bucket of votes was coming and would be predominantly for Biden. This batch of votes represented the absentee ballots from Milwaukee County. Milwaukee officials had announced earlier in the night exactly how many votes they would be counting (~170k) and those who were watching the news at that time on election night would have even witnessed the police escort as county officials rushed to report the results to the county courthouse. In fact, I personally tweeted as 3 am that the Milwaukee absentee ballots would “drop shortly” and give us a better indication of the race in Wisconsin since it was clear these ballots would mostly go for Biden and Trump was holding onto a small lead at that time.
  7. Another viral claim that originated on election night and was eventually promoted by President Trump was that 138,339 votes were magically added to Biden in Michigan. While it’s true that the numbers temporarily reflected a major boost for Biden, the source of the dispute was an extra 0 on 15,137 Biden votes being added during the reporting process by officials in Shiawassee County before the data was transmitted to DecisionDeskHQ. While DDHQ reported the numbers as they were transmitted, the mistake was noticed by state officials within 20 minutes and changed before it was officially reported out.
  8. A viral video from election day, which was later amplified by Eric Trump, claimed to show someone burning 80 Trump ballots in Virginia. However, the city of Virginia Beach came forward shortly after noting that the ballots in question were actually just sample ballots, as is clear because they lack the bar codes contained on official ballots.
  9. A claim that has been widely circulating on right-leaning sites and Twitter is that a bunch of cities mysteriously stopped counting their ballots on election night without explanation. Sidney Powell incorporated this in her conspiracy to claim that the secret algorithm meant to switch votes to Biden was so overwhelmed by the huge margins for Trump that it overloaded and thus caused the shutdowns in counting. However, it simply is not true that a bunch of cities in swing states stops counting during election night. There was one clear example of one precinct in Fulton County Georgia that stopped counting for 4 hours due to a reported pipe bursting. There have been some questions raised about the seriousness of the leak and whether it really required such a long delay, but this was not a widespread occurrence. In Philadelphia, one reporter had claimed that officials had stopped counting and that claim was eventually picked up by several media outlets, but that same reporter later retracted and corrected it to say that counting would continue.
  10. Certain large accounts posted a viral claim suggesting thousands of dead voters cast their ballots in Michigan. Several news organizations went through various names on this list and all of them found that the list was overwhelmingly based on mixing up different records. CNN reviewed 50 of the names on the list (the first 25 names and 25 more at random) and found 37 of them were dead but had not voted, 5 were alive but had not voted, and 8 were alive and voted. The BBC picked 31 names on another viral list. Only 3 of them were deceased. In 2 of those cases, their sons voted, but their votes were recorded under the names of their deceased fathers. In the third case, the woman died after she had sent in her ballot. The clerk is supposed to disqualify such ballots, but it was not clear if they did. Tucker Carlson was forced to apologize on-air after citing a claim of a dead Georgia voter casting a ballot only to discover that it was in fact the voter’s widow that had cast the ballot for herself.
  11. Several videos from vote processing centers after election day showed election workers filling out ballots. Social media posts automatically suggested there was something fraudulent going on. In reality, these were election workers creating marked duplicate ballots for those that otherwise were damaged or could not be read by the tabulation machines. This is a standard procedure in each election for damaged ballots. The video also zooms in to cut out the bipartisan observers that are standing near the desk to watch the process.
  12. Another accusation that went viral on election day was that election officials in Maricopa County Arizona were intentionally invalidating predominantly Trump votes by providing voters with sharpies to use on their ballots. Arizona’s State Attorney General confirmed after investigation that the use of sharpies did not invalidate any votes in Maricopa County.
Of course these examples do not include the baseless conspiracies promoted by Sidney Powell of a secret CIA-fueled algorithm that magically transferred millions of votes from Trump to Biden. None of this means, as some who choose to kill straw man arguments would suggest, that there was no voter fraud. It simply means that based on available evidence, any fraud that occurred was not at the level at which it would have impacted the outcome of the election and that those promoting these claims are not vetting them in a way that would suggest they actually care about getting to the truth.
Now explain how a guy who did not campaign at all got more votes than Obama--a candidate who won over a massive and enthusiastic base. Somehow he got more votes than any politician in US history. Yeah fucking right.

You can pick apart selective details of specific allegations, but what you can't do is justify his win on a macro level.
 
Now explain how a guy who did not campaign at all got more votes than Obama--a candidate who won over a massive and enthusiastic base. Somehow he got more votes than any politician in US history. Yeah fucking right.

You can pick apart selective details of specific allegations, but what you can't do is justify his win on a macro level.
People fucking hate trump. This election was a referendum on Trump with a high vote turnout. No shit he got more votes than anyone else.
 
Now explain how a guy who did not campaign at all got more votes than Obama--a candidate who won over a massive and enthusiastic base. Somehow he got more votes than any politician in US history. Yeah fucking right.

You can pick apart selective details of specific allegations, but what you can't do is justify his win on a macro level.
Well, we know that in at least one state, Republicans were voting R down the entire ticket except for the presidency. It wouldn't be far-fetched to say that there were disgruntled Republicans in every state that went R every race except the presidency. Secondly, the Covid led to a surge in applications to mail-in ballots, which undoubtedly attracted people who don't normally vote already and who may or may not have registered. Except for one state, I forget which it is, in which mail-ins were already the norm, it's why most people weren't worried Election Day when Trump was iniitally taking several states that he would end up losing and filing lawsuits in.

Your post makes zero sense. If smaller allegations can be picked apart and false, there's no way for there to be a macro issue. You're telling me that the democrats or the Deep State did all this work to rig an election, an election that apparently everyone can see is rigged given everyone is calling it rigged, but not secure the Senate easily? If the election was to be so brazenly rigged like that, why wouldn't they overwhelmingly take the Senate and the House, where they lost some seats they had? And you're telling me that literally everyone except people close to Trump is in on this conspiracy, one that is so bloated and grand but also has very few people coming out of the woodwork to talk about it?
 
Reposting from another thread because I'd genuinely like some help figuring this out and this thread is more active:
Holy shit, the 'Iran hacked are elekshuns' affidavit is even better.

The retard responsible claims that Edison Research had an Iranian server. His evidence? He used some shitty domain history tool to 'prove' that a domain existed at edisonresearch.ايران.ir. What is 'ايران' you may ask? Oh, it's only 'Iran' in Farsi. This is not a standard domain extension lol, it's obviously someone's probably quite high value vanity domain.

This shitty Robtex tool hides most of the data unless you're retarded enough to pay them, but searching
returns the same results to the public as
so I'm going to come out and suggest that whatever drooling retard Powell paid to prepare this report can suck my fat Persian cock.
So the entire point is that "Edison Research does not actually have an Iranian server as the affidavite claims and the evidence that it does is merely a different or false domain".
And this was figured by using a gimped version of a tool the affidavit claims was used for digital forensics.

I assume we're talking about this stuff:
Iran China stuff.png


Now like I said, I've got public school potato brain for geek speak and half of this is beyond me, but if someone is using a tool that gets a result I find sketchy and then I use a limited version of that same tool and don't get the same result my brain tells me that either
1. They are lying
2. I'm not using the tool right (which make sense since it's paywalled)

I'd like to know why the Robtex tool is "shitty" otherwise. Also what does anyone think about the other stuff surrounding that supposed Iran domain info and the China information?
What is "unidirectional reference"?
Also what's godaddy doing with dominionvoting?

I have a head for deciphering academic lunacy but not for this.
Got a headache and looked into why Iran of all places would bother with anything like this. I figured Powell chose Iran and China since Dems hate Iran and Reps hate China. I figured it was a tactical thing, but it seems like Iran wasn't chosen at random: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article246498665.html
Iran’s state broadcasting company has quietly used U.S.-based operations of Webzilla, a Russia-linked company caught up in the 2016 election meddling probe, to disseminate Iranian government viewpoints in English and Spanish across the hemisphere, an investigation by McClatchy and the Miami Herald shows.

Despite being under U.S. sanctions, Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting, known by its acronym IRIB, is the only organization legally allowed to broadcast radio and TV in Iran. It operates state-run websites in French, English and Spanish that seek to influence U.S., Canadian and Venezuelan audiences. It does so via the domain names www.presstv.com, www.hispantv.com and www.urmedium.com.
So as far as "Iran is involved" is concerned, the idea isn't just plucked from thin air to set up a boogeyman. Same goes for China.


But that doesn't prove whatsoever that Iran helped screw with the Dominion voting system. As for that there's this article from the Epoch Times:
Epoch Times Article.png


From all of this what I'm getting is that, ultimately the Dominion system--which uses tech derived from the Smartmatic system, assets supposedly provably purchased by Dominion previously (article above)--is not a closed network and can be accessed, and thus tampered with, externally, in this instance via the internet. Dominion says that's not the case but the affidavit's "digital forensics" says it is, and then goes further to say it wasn't just potentially accessed but was definitely accessed.
Then it shows tech talk, domain names, "digital forensics" and I get lost. When I hear that all I think of is

Edit: also I saw "honeypots" here
Honeypots.png
 
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Reposting from another thread because I'd genuinely like some help figuring this out and this thread is more active:

So the entire point is that "Edison Research does not actually have an Iranian server as the affidavite claims and the evidence that it does is merely a different or false domain".
And this was figured by using a gimped version of a tool the affidavit claims was used for digital forensics.

I assume we're talking about this stuff:
View attachment 1755693

Now like I said, I've got public school potato brain for geek speak and half of this is beyond me, but if someone is using a tool that gets a result I find sketchy and then I use a limited version of that same tool and don't get the same result my brain tells me that either
1. They are lying
2. I'm not using the tool right (which make sense since it's paywalled)

I'd like to know why the Robtex tool is "shitty" otherwise. Also what does anyone think about the other stuff surrounding that supposed Iran domain info and the China information?
What is "unidirectional reference"?
Also what's godaddy doing with dominionvoting?

I have a head for deciphering academic lunacy but not for this.
Got a headache and looked into why Iran of all places would bother with anything like this. I figured Powell chose Iran and China since Dems hate Iran and Reps hate China. I figured it was a tactical thing, but it seems like Iran wasn't chosen at random: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article246498665.html
View attachment 1755702


So as far as "Iran is involved" is concerned, the idea isn't just plucked from thin air to set up a boogeyman. Same goes for China.

But that doesn't prove whatsoever that Iran helped screw with the Dominion voting system. As for that there's this article from the Epoch Times:
View attachment 1755708


From all of this what I'm getting is that, ultimately the Dominion system--which uses tech derived from the Smartmatic system, assets supposedly provably purchased by Dominion previously (article above)--is not a closed network and can be accessed, and thus tampered with, externally, in this instance via the internet. Dominion says that's not the case but the affidavit's "digital forensics" says it is, and then goes further to say it wasn't just potentially accessed but was definitely accessed.
Then it shows tech talk, domain names, "digital forensics" and I get lost. When I hear that all I think of is
Lol calm down
 
From all of this what I'm getting is that, ultimately the Dominion system--which uses tech derived from the Smartmatic system, assets supposedly provably purchased by Dominion previously (article above)--is not a closed network and can be accessed, and thus tampered with, externally, in this instance via the internet. Dominion says that's not the case but the affidavit's "digital forensics" says it is, and then goes further to say it wasn't just potentially accessed but was definitely accessed.
Then it shows tech talk, domain names, "digital forensics" and I get lost. When I hear that all I think of is
I wouldn't necessarily trust affidavits from experts until they're on the stand as expert witnesses. Affidavits might have a perjury penalty, but nobody would ever submit an affidavit from an expert unless that expert was explicitly telling them what they wanted to hear, right or not. They would never submit an affidavit from a digital forensic expert that would go against what they're trying to prove (and likewise, if Dominion hired an expert to do the same, they would never submit an affidavit that would go against them).

There was an article put out recently from the AP itself that stated that Dominion doesn't even operate in some of the cities or counties that suddenly flipped for Biden. Is Dominion secure? I don't know, I'm also a layman.

As for something like a digital forensic expert and what that means exactly, it's things like recovering deleted or scrambled data, tracking digital footprints through things like metadata (like the date and time and model of camera used to make a picture or video), using tools to figure out who might have created or designed websites, etc.
 
Now explain how a guy who did not campaign at all got more votes than Obama--a candidate who won over a massive and enthusiastic base. Somehow he got more votes than any politician in US history. Yeah fucking right.

You can pick apart selective details of specific allegations, but what you can't do is justify his win on a macro level.
Because a lot of people really hated Trump. And mail in voting made it easier and more accessible.
 
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Now explain how a guy who did not campaign at all got more votes than Obama--a candidate who won over a massive and enthusiastic base. Somehow he got more votes than any politician in US history. Yeah fucking right.

You can pick apart selective details of specific allegations, but what you can't do is justify his win on a macro level.
Huh? More people voted period in this election than in previous elections. Even Trump got more votes than he did in 2016 after handing a pandemic like a retard. Trump didn’t seem to count on drumming up his base would also drum up people who hate him to go out to vote.

Trump handed Biden this election. Lots of additional Americans voted simply to vote against Trump, not because they were passionate about Biden. Their passion was to throw Trump out of the White House.
 
Now explain how a guy who did not campaign at all got more votes than Obama--a candidate who won over a massive and enthusiastic base. Somehow he got more votes than any politician in US history. Yeah fucking right.

You can pick apart selective details of specific allegations, but what you can't do is justify his win on a macro level.
Trump campaigned for Biden
 
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I wouldn't necessarily trust affidavits from experts until they're on the stand as expert witnesses. Affidavits might have a perjury penalty, but nobody would ever submit an affidavit from an expert unless that expert was explicitly telling them what they wanted to hear, right or not. They would never submit an affidavit from a digital forensic expert that would go against what they're trying to prove (and likewise, if Dominion hired an expert to do the same, they would never submit an affidavit that would go against them).

There was an article put out recently from the AP itself that stated that Dominion doesn't even operate in some of the cities or counties that suddenly flipped for Biden. Is Dominion secure? I don't know, I'm also a layman.

As for something like a digital forensic expert and what that means exactly, it's things like recovering deleted or scrambled data, tracking digital footprints through things like metadata (like the date and time and model of camera used to make a picture or video), using tools to figure out who might have created or designed websites, etc.
Thanks, Tails. Also thanks for the link.
 
Hahahahah yeah fucking right. Record turnout results from energized voters, not dislike or apathy for a candidate. Especially when the opposition doesn't even run a campaign.
I think you’re underestimating how energetically many people dislike Trump. I mean, if you believe that Trump Derangement Syndrome is a real thing, you have your answer as to how Biden won.
 
I think you’re underestimating how energetically many people dislike Trump. I mean, if you believe that Trump Derangement Syndrome is a real thing, you have your answer as to how Biden won.
Biden didn't win. Nothing about this election was plausible. You have TDS if you are arguing otherwise in good faith.

If the dems hadn't engineered mass mail-in ballots via Covid propaganda (you can do drive-through COVID testing but not voting? Yeah okay.),

If the mass media empire hadn't moved in total coordinated lockstep,

If Biden had run a presidential campaign,

If Trump hadn't taken over 70 million votes,

If Trump hadn't filled huge arenas all over the country in the leadup,

If there hadn't been massive irregularities,

If the states in which these irregularities happened didn't all use the same sketchy voting systems run by people with links to the DNC political machine,

Then maybe you could successfully gaslight me into thinking Biden won because people just hate Trump that much.
 
Biden didn't win. Nothing about this election was plausible. You have TDS if you are arguing otherwise in good faith.

If the dems hadn't engineered mass mail-in ballots via Covid propaganda (you can do drive-through COVID testing but not voting? Yeah okay.),

If the mass media empire hadn't moved in total coordinated lockstep,

If Biden had run a presidential campaign,

If Trump hadn't taken over 70 million votes,

If Trump hadn't filled huge arenas all over the country in the leadup,

If there hadn't been massive irregularities,

If the states in which these irregularities happened didn't all use the same sketchy voting systems run by people with links to the DNC political machine,

Then maybe you could successfully gaslight me into thinking Biden won because people just hate Trump that much.
Are you writing a poem?
 
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