Nicholas Gur
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Is shaking hands common for women? I've never seen it nor have any women ever tried to shake my hand. Honestly even among men it very rarely seems to come up.
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It's supposed to mean "I come in friendship, there is no weapon in my hand or sleeve". Women were generally beyond suspicion in this matter, that's why even today it's usually done \ initiated by men.
Newfag14
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Nuanced take on cat hate as someone who has and adores cats :
Hating cats usually boils down to the fact that those adorable furry retards can do some damage to your property and are meowing loud at night in spring/summer. My outdoor cats got me into conflict with my neighbors many times because of that.
Hating cats is not that much of a red flag as long as it just means that the person just scares them away or sprays some water on them.
Lukily a small dose of toxoplasmosis parasites can cure that hate in a pinch...
Hating cats usually boils down to the fact that those adorable furry retards can do some damage to your property and are meowing loud at night in spring/summer. My outdoor cats got me into conflict with my neighbors many times because of that.
Hating cats is not that much of a red flag as long as it just means that the person just scares them away or sprays some water on them.
Lukily a small dose of toxoplasmosis parasites can cure that hate in a pinch...
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It varies from one euro country to another and sometimes it's different within one country or it's up to the individuals, but generally it's done in business, while wishing someone happy birthday, congratulations and such, and it varies with friends and family who you haven't seen for a long time, or while saying goodbye to them (some might go for la bise or hug, all of that or nothing)
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Gravityqueen4life
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My ick? Nose rings. it doesn't matter if your a man or a women, it looks awful either way.
Dagoth AMOGUS
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I think women prefer hugging.
Also this is an old Victorian rule, but you must never extend your hand to a lady first. Let her initiate the handshake as a man. This is because if a woman was hosting a party as a debutante or simple hostess, every man would wish to shake hands with her and this would lead to sore arms, as some suitors would want to be “memorable” and give an extra squeeze, or be a tickler.
(That was as intimate as you could get between bachelors and bachelorettes back then lol.)
So if the lady was tired or had enough of moids she could still attend the party but not have to hold in her arms like a T. Rex in a corset.
Other than the corset thing I just mentioned, I think relations between the sexes peaked in the Victorian Era. She started her rule as an 18 year old girl, but ended it with the greatest and largest empire in history. We should have another Queen Victoria.
Also this is an old Victorian rule, but you must never extend your hand to a lady first. Let her initiate the handshake as a man. This is because if a woman was hosting a party as a debutante or simple hostess, every man would wish to shake hands with her and this would lead to sore arms, as some suitors would want to be “memorable” and give an extra squeeze, or be a tickler.
(That was as intimate as you could get between bachelors and bachelorettes back then lol.)
So if the lady was tired or had enough of moids she could still attend the party but not have to hold in her arms like a T. Rex in a corset.
Other than the corset thing I just mentioned, I think relations between the sexes peaked in the Victorian Era. She started her rule as an 18 year old girl, but ended it with the greatest and largest empire in history. We should have another Queen Victoria.
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Great to see the women of Kiwifarms have based dating standards, pretty much all of my icks have been covered already.
A major ick for me is a man who wants a strict 50/50 relationship or an "equal partnership"; I think men use this line of thinking to abdicate from their masculine duty to provide for their woman and push the relationship forward. Women are genuinely more physically and economically vulnerable than men in relationships (pregnancy, childrearing, general less intense drive to work, often suffer from menstrual-related chronic conditions like endometriosis and fibroids), and I want a man who knows that entering into a relationship with a woman is a great responsibility and not just a means to get sex, offspring + maid services. 50/50 is not fair to women in my opinion, is basically impossible as there will always be seasons of a relationship where one partner needs more support than the other, and fosters an individualistic mindset where your partner exists to serve your needs and the boundaries between the two of you are very strong, rather than facilitating an atmosphere where you can relax and be bound together in a shared moral universe where care-taking is of a higher value than strict equality.
A general lack of chivalry, protectiveness and a service mindset towards the vulnerable (women, kids, the very old, disabled people, etc.) is also a massive turn-off.
Atheism/secularism. Doesn't believe in God and doesn't pray. Not reading good literature is also a turn-off.
Lacking a strong moral vision and moral courage.
Is generally apathetic and listless about life.
Talks badly about the institution of marriage.
Is liberal or a tankie.
Watches Hasan Piker, Ben Shapiro, Destiny, Jordan Peterson, Twitch streamers and other related personalities unironically.
Is physically unfit or has no active hobbies.
Watches porn or defends/downplays the immorality of the habit, has coomer habits like owning sex toys and visiting strip clubs, follows thots on social media, etc.
Heavy social media user, is a "tech bro", spends a lot of time on his phone/computer.
A major ick for me is a man who wants a strict 50/50 relationship or an "equal partnership"; I think men use this line of thinking to abdicate from their masculine duty to provide for their woman and push the relationship forward. Women are genuinely more physically and economically vulnerable than men in relationships (pregnancy, childrearing, general less intense drive to work, often suffer from menstrual-related chronic conditions like endometriosis and fibroids), and I want a man who knows that entering into a relationship with a woman is a great responsibility and not just a means to get sex, offspring + maid services. 50/50 is not fair to women in my opinion, is basically impossible as there will always be seasons of a relationship where one partner needs more support than the other, and fosters an individualistic mindset where your partner exists to serve your needs and the boundaries between the two of you are very strong, rather than facilitating an atmosphere where you can relax and be bound together in a shared moral universe where care-taking is of a higher value than strict equality.
A general lack of chivalry, protectiveness and a service mindset towards the vulnerable (women, kids, the very old, disabled people, etc.) is also a massive turn-off.
Atheism/secularism. Doesn't believe in God and doesn't pray. Not reading good literature is also a turn-off.
Lacking a strong moral vision and moral courage.
Is generally apathetic and listless about life.
Talks badly about the institution of marriage.
Is liberal or a tankie.
Watches Hasan Piker, Ben Shapiro, Destiny, Jordan Peterson, Twitch streamers and other related personalities unironically.
Is physically unfit or has no active hobbies.
Watches porn or defends/downplays the immorality of the habit, has coomer habits like owning sex toys and visiting strip clubs, follows thots on social media, etc.
Heavy social media user, is a "tech bro", spends a lot of time on his phone/computer.
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soulgains
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I don't think it boils down to "50/50" in the way the guys you're talking about see it, in the sense that for them its just an excuse to do less than whats "expected". You should be doing the most. You pick eachother up when you're down, you sacrifice for eachother, etc etc because you're a team. Me and my wife don't overthink it, we give our best effort to eachother and thats good enough. Rules, roles and stipulations get in the way of whats best practically for a given situation, and I dont wanna feel like I constantly have to live up to some standard that isn't me. If you can't be yourself and always feel the need to prove yourself to the one person in the world who should love and accept you as you are, the relationship is going nowhere fast.
Dagoth AMOGUS
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I remember the last person I so much as asked why they treated their Mom like shit absolutely tried to ruin my life and made me homeless (we were roommates) and it just reinforced my belief that you can't trust anyone who treats their Mom badly
Le'garde
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Male feminists... Most of them are just so fucking creepy and weird to me.
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Redditor behavior in general is a big ick. You know what I mean. Yt ppl bad, lol Christians have stupid sky daddies, gays/blacks/muslims etc are better than everyone else, sex work is work and empowering and women should be able to choose to do it b/c feminism, Orange man bad, etc etc etc. These all show low IQ and a severe lack of critical thinking or independent thought about the world, and they bode ill for a relationship.
Hatred of animals or worse, fear of animals. Not generally unpleasant animals like spiders and snakes and insects. But anyone who has allowed an animal around them to be neglected or harmed when they could have intervened, returned an animal to a shelter for un-serious reasons, or is afraid of a standard family dog like a golden retriever or a spaniel, makes me highly suspicious of how they view other entities and whether they do or do not deserve good treatment. That said, no pibble daddies for obvious reasons.
Hatred of children and babies. Indifference is fine, but anyone with the need to complain about babies and kids, refusal to be around them or even try to interact with family children etc indicates selfishness and/or extreme attachment to childfree pursuits like porn, violent video games or movies, polyamory, or similar. Also they are just little humans, they exist everywhere, fucking get over it b/c you are not the center of the universe.
Lack of basic competence. Any man needs to be able to clean his own clothes, keep his house not a pit, cook meals that are more than hot pockets and chicken nuggies, drive a car, balance his budget, etc etc.
Displays entitlement to comment on women's bodies. "Look at that big fatty!" "Wow, she has a nice ass." "That woman is busting out of her top". Just STFU. You are not the arbiter of how women can and should look. Goes double if they themselves are ugly, greasy and fat.
Assumption that women are less intelligent than they are. This is a big one, as almost all men secretly think they are smarter than all women, despite all objective evidence to the contrary ("well, yes, I know you have three degrees from prestigious institutions and I have an associates degree from the local community college, but if I really, like, tried, I could do everything you have and better, I just didn't want to. You did it so it can't be that hard.") Particularly difficult because it's hard to pick up on without looking out specifically for signs like not listening to your opinions, dismissing things you show them, or saying something overtly misogynistic, so you can get trapped with a bunch of invested time in some douchebag before realizing he interprets men as fully actualized human beings and women as NPCs. Sophisticated, interactive, attractive NPCs, but NPCs all the same.
Hatred of animals or worse, fear of animals. Not generally unpleasant animals like spiders and snakes and insects. But anyone who has allowed an animal around them to be neglected or harmed when they could have intervened, returned an animal to a shelter for un-serious reasons, or is afraid of a standard family dog like a golden retriever or a spaniel, makes me highly suspicious of how they view other entities and whether they do or do not deserve good treatment. That said, no pibble daddies for obvious reasons.
Hatred of children and babies. Indifference is fine, but anyone with the need to complain about babies and kids, refusal to be around them or even try to interact with family children etc indicates selfishness and/or extreme attachment to childfree pursuits like porn, violent video games or movies, polyamory, or similar. Also they are just little humans, they exist everywhere, fucking get over it b/c you are not the center of the universe.
Lack of basic competence. Any man needs to be able to clean his own clothes, keep his house not a pit, cook meals that are more than hot pockets and chicken nuggies, drive a car, balance his budget, etc etc.
Displays entitlement to comment on women's bodies. "Look at that big fatty!" "Wow, she has a nice ass." "That woman is busting out of her top". Just STFU. You are not the arbiter of how women can and should look. Goes double if they themselves are ugly, greasy and fat.
Assumption that women are less intelligent than they are. This is a big one, as almost all men secretly think they are smarter than all women, despite all objective evidence to the contrary ("well, yes, I know you have three degrees from prestigious institutions and I have an associates degree from the local community college, but if I really, like, tried, I could do everything you have and better, I just didn't want to. You did it so it can't be that hard.") Particularly difficult because it's hard to pick up on without looking out specifically for signs like not listening to your opinions, dismissing things you show them, or saying something overtly misogynistic, so you can get trapped with a bunch of invested time in some douchebag before realizing he interprets men as fully actualized human beings and women as NPCs. Sophisticated, interactive, attractive NPCs, but NPCs all the same.
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A friend of mine recently fought and broke up with her BF because he littered. I can't even say to add littering to the list because it seems like such a given, a sort of bottom-tier "shopping cart return" test for the world's shittiest men. The bare minimum standard. Should give everyone the ick.
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Do yall see icks and red flags as the same thing? To me icks are something personal that makes you cringe inside that may not bother someone else while red flags should be universal, although an ick can also be a red flag.
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i once had a professor i admired for his skill at the subject matter who mentioned vhs porn one time and it immediately ruined my perception of him. it was utterly unprompted. i wasn't into him but the sensation was so powerful i think "mentioning porn at all" definitely counts.
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In what context did he mention it?
Also, completely inappropriate and sign of a possible porn addict. Pornsick males often mention pornography completely unprompted, or when the thread of the conversation is tenuous at best.
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That's right, I once lost all respect for another guy, when he handed me his laptop to do something with it and there was a folder literally named "Porn" right in the center of his desktop.
Have some sense of shame and at least name it "pr0n" or "movies2" and hide it in a cascade of subfolders, ffs. But good to learn he is an addicted retard early on.
It's perfectly explainable - whatever degenerate and humiliating shit is potentially there, it might be YOU who he imagines on the actress' place.
Have some sense of shame and at least name it "pr0n" or "movies2" and hide it in a cascade of subfolders, ffs. But good to learn he is an addicted retard early on.
It's perfectly explainable - whatever degenerate and humiliating shit is potentially there, it might be YOU who he imagines on the actress' place.
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it was at the end of a lecture. he said something to the tune of "now, i'm going home to watch vhs porn".
something about mentioning vhs tape porn, specifically, in the year of our lord 2020 made it extra soul-destroying.
if it were in one on one conversation i think i might have had a heart attack.
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If you are not my husband there are absolutely no circumstances in which I want to hear, even via the vaguest reference, about your penis. If I wanted information about your penis, I would ask for it.
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Any man that comments on a post in which the Subject is Female Teacher Molested 14 year old student and the man’s response is “I wish that was my teacher “ or “every 14 yo dream”
Men complain that women degrade and demean men and don’t take their sexual assaults seriously. Yet Men are the biggest offenders of creating a culture of sexually assaulting even young boys being acceptable.
Men complain that women degrade and demean men and don’t take their sexual assaults seriously. Yet Men are the biggest offenders of creating a culture of sexually assaulting even young boys being acceptable.