Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

I wish. That'd be awesome.

Birth control can fix that (almost) for you. The day I went on quarterly cycling bcp was a glorious day.

 

[Big Miss Steak]

Most of my interests are male-leaning. The acquaintances and friends I make through these hobbies are pretty much always male. If they're single, they end up confessing their love for me eventually. If they're taken, their wife or gf tells them to stop hanging around me (which isn't as much the guy's fault I guess). idk what the deal is, maybe it's because I'm not a whore and am conservative on a lot of social issues. I don't blame guys for shooting their shot but the number of men who persist after you tell them you're not interested is staggering. I don't really touch TTRPGs anymore and I do vidya completely solo.

I used to think men and women could be friends but now I no longer believe so. I still talk to some men but I do so with the understanding that I will likely need to abruptly and unpleasantly end the friendship at some point.

 

[Lidl Drip]

I used to think men and women could be friends but now I no longer believe so.

Women can be friends to men, but men can not be our friends. At least I have never seen it work out and all my guy friends always stopped talking to me when I got into a relationship. I am convinced men always have ulterior motives, because they just don't enjoy the company of women unless there is the possibility of sex on the horizon or they enjoy oogling her. I also have never seen a man be friends with a fat woman, which undermines my beliefs. It is what it is.

An exception to this might be if the friendship is like a mommy replacement figure and is doing emotional labour for the guy so much that it makes it worth for him to keep her around just to have someone to whine too. But one sided friendships like this aren't really "friendship".

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

Birth control can fix that (almost) for you. The day I went on quarterly cycling bcp was a glorious day.

Never been on the pill because it can cause weight gain. I know there's other options.

 

[fake farts]

I used to think men and women could be friends but now I no longer believe so. I still talk to some men but I do so with the understanding that I will likely need to abruptly and unpleasantly end the friendship at some point.

Even males who are your platonic friends hold onto some tiny sliver of hope you'll debase yourself enough to fuck them. Women can be friends with men, but men cannot be friends with women, not really. You can chat, maybe hang out, but a genuinely deep conversation with a male is rare. They'll play along better if you are dating a man, they'll see you as "owned" by someone else, but even then, they usually hold onto that little sliver of hope that one day, they can fuck you.

This is why the fag friend is so common with women. To women, the fag friend has the benefit of only wanting to cornhole or be cornholed by other fags, so the desire to fuck you is out of the equation. But this doesn't take account for the fact that it is very common for fags to grope women and think its okay because they aren't attracted to us, for them to talk down to us like any other male, for them to even get jealous if a woman is dating a straight guy, and of course, the always present possibility they will just troon the fuck out. But that last one is all men these days.

 

[Generic Anime Girl]

grope women and think its okay because they aren't attracted to us,

fag theory: gay men are subconsciously attracted to women out of womb envy.

 

[Big Miss Steak]

Women can be friends to men, but men can not be our friends. At least I have never seen it work out and all my guy friends always stopped talking to me when I got into a relationship. I am convinced men always have ulterior motives, because they just don't enjoy the company of women unless there is the possibility of sex on the horizon or they enjoy oogling her. I also have never seen a man be friends with a fat woman, which undermines my beliefs. It is what it is.

An exception to this might be if the friendship is like a mommy replacement figure and is doing emotional labour for the guy so much that it makes it worth for him to keep her around just to have someone to whine too. But one sided friendships like this aren't really "friendship".

Even males who are your platonic friends hold onto some tiny sliver of hope you'll debase yourself enough to fuck them. Women can be friends with men, but men cannot be friends with women, not really. You can chat, maybe hang out, but a genuinely deep conversation with a male is rare. They'll play along better if you are dating a man, they'll see you as "owned" by someone else, but even then, they usually hold onto that little sliver of hope that one day, they can fuck you.

This is why the fag friend is so common with women. To women, the fag friend has the benefit of only wanting to cornhole or be cornholed by other fags, so the desire to fuck you is out of the equation. But this doesn't take account for the fact that it is very common for fags to grope women and think its okay because they aren't attracted to us, for them to talk down to us like any other male, for them to even get jealous if a woman is dating a straight guy, and of course, the always present possibility they will just troon the fuck out. But that last one is all men these days.

Yeah I've learned that the majority of men have some sort of ulterior motive when it comes to befriending women. If they don't start out with one, it quickly develops. If you have a deep convo with a man then he's thinking about sleeping with you. I've been friends with fags and it's nice to be friends with a guy who doesn't want to sleep with you, but they are more histrionic than women. I'm friends with a guy rn and we exclusively talk politics or lolcows, so I assume he has no other friends to discuss this with.

 

[fake farts]

fag theory: gay men are subconsciously attracted to women out of womb envy.

Dunno if I'd say secretly attracted (though anything is possible) but surrogacy proves the womb envy.

 

[Dyn]

I think males do form really strong friendship bonds over time, but are emotionally incapable of doing it proactively. This is why you see so many men who either have no friends at all, or have really good, strong friendships with the guys they knew in high school, that started before the moid experience shut down the expression of any emotions except 'horny', 'hungry' and 'mad'.

Women are generally a lot better at forming those friendship bonds. They're the ones who are texting you to check in, wanting to spend time together, remembering stuff, basically carrying out all the emotional labour that goes into forming and maintaining social bonds. Men don't do any of that shit, we just stand next to a guy for 20 years and nod and grunt until we're friends, and if it doesn't work we wander around stupidly wondering why we don't have any friends.

I think that leads to males constantly reading basic, platonic female friendship as signs you want to fuck them. If you actually want to be friends with a guy and not have him try to fuck you, you need to be as emotionally neglectful and distant as a man, which probably isn't going to be a very fulfilling friendship for you.

 

[Woodchipper]

I hate how men need to be the victim in every situation. Maybe if you perceive more than half of our species as treating you unfairly it's you with the problem and you're being self pitying instead of self improving. Ugh, men! Have a little more accountability

 

[Inside your walls]

Muzzie men are the most hypocritical beings to ever exist. They don't even see women as human beings. They see them as animals. I know of someone whose relative was married to a mudslime. This nigger would go behind his wife's back and would fuck faggots raw and contracted an STD. Naturally, his wife contracted it and died because of this. This happened in one of the rich Arab shitholes so nothing was looked into. Arabs men would fuck anything living with a hole. Gulfies would go to Thailand to fuck ladyboys and trannies and like to project themselves onto other people by not allowing their women to leave the house out of fear that they will become promiscuous. They are the same creatures would later demand to have a virgin pure wife after all the degenerate shit they do

The muzzie dude I knew was an entitled shitbag, who completely gave up doing anything after he failed to pass a test that would let him enter colleges and became a NEET mooching off
his old working parents while wondering at the same time, why his parents don't respect or trust him with anything.

He spend most of his days playing video games and bitching about how if it wasn't for "DA JEWZ"
he would have better job opportunities and wouldn't be miserable. He was 24/7 seething about his more successful sisters who went to study medicine in USA and managed to integrate there, calling them
traitorous/sellouts to West, only for him to try and fail worming his way in some European woman's pants so she can be his ticket to Europe.
He had this hobby of calling the west degenerate and flexing about how Islam is morally superior, yet constantly watched the most degenerate
shit on Pornhub (such as blacked and cuckolding).

Women can be friends to men, but men can not be our friends. At least I have never seen it work out and all my guy friends always stopped talking to me when I got into a relationship. I am convinced men always have ulterior motives, because they just don't enjoy the company of women unless there is the possibility of sex on the horizon or they enjoy oogling her. I also have never seen a man be friends with a fat woman, which undermines my beliefs. It is what it is.

An exception to this might be if the friendship is like a mommy replacement figure and is doing emotional labour for the guy so much that it makes it worth for him to keep her around just to have someone to whine too. But one sided friendships like this aren't really "friendship".

I am wondering if there's some cultural difference when it comes to male/female friendships, because most of the friendship with dudes from my country I've had were platonic even
when I made it clear that I am not interested in looking for something more meanwhile when I've had a brief friendship with a dude who was single from USA, he couldn't shut the fuck up
about his fetishes, even when I showed clear signs that I'm not interested in hearing any of it, our friendship didn't last that much.

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

Women are generally a lot better at forming those friendship bonds. They're the ones who are texting you to check in, wanting to spend time together, remembering stuff, basically carrying out all the emotional labour that goes into forming and maintaining social bonds.

When I do all this shit I come across as needy or desperate. I have done it and still do a lot of the time but the reality is people just do not care and more often want you to go away cause youre being a creep or are too needy. Ive heard someone say this that the best lesson a man learns in his life is the complete apathy of the universe towards him and the rest of humanity, the universe and other people dont care about you and arent obligated to care about you, which is true, you are alone in the universe. People dont care about other people and when someone does put in the effort to care they come across as creepy or needy unless theyre family. Why bother doing it.

 

[Dyn]

When I do all this shit I come across as needy or desperate. I have done it and still do a lot of the time but the reality is people just do not care and more often want you to go away cause youre being a creep or are too needy.

Well, yeah, it's 100% needy and desperate and creepy. The male mind is not built to accept kindness or consideration or compassion and I actively reject it because it makes me feel weird in my tummy.

 

[Lidl Drip]

I think that leads to males constantly reading basic, platonic female friendship as signs you want to fuck them. If you actually want to be friends with a guy and not have him try to fuck you, you need to be as emotionally neglectful and distant as a man, which probably isn't going to be a very fulfilling friendship for you.

In my experience, treating men like dogshit just makes them want to fuck you more. There just isn't a way for men and women to be friends. Maybe in old age when the man's libido has died and his penis is limp and useless.

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

Well, yeah, it's 100% needy and desperate and creepy. The male mind is not built to accept kindness or consideration or compassion and I actively reject it because it makes me feel weird in my tummy.

Im saying when I do it to everybody else, when I check up on anybody else or remember stuff about anybody else. Nobody seems to care and almost every time reduce the conversation cause they have something else to do. It would be nice if someone does care but why should I expect other people to, its not like there should be affirmation and validation just for existing and doing nothing, Im not that feminine that I want that. Especially women for some reason, from my experience, if you have nice polite conversations with them they either doubt you for being a fuckboi and call you a creep or they find you desperate and clingy and try to go away.

 

[Dyn]

In my experience, treating men like dogshit just makes them want to fuck you more. There just isn't a way for men and women to be friends. Maybe in old age when the man's libido has died and his penis is limp and useless.

Treating men like dogshit is still too nice and too emotionally invested for us to handle without assuming you're just trying to get a rough one off us.

The ideal male friendship is two people who don't talk to each other for six years and then one of them needs help moving a fridge so you move the fridge together and drink some beers and talk about football. That's what you should be aiming for. If that doesn't sound like a fulfilling friendship to you, male friendships probably aren't your thing.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

In my experience, treating men like dogshit just makes them want to fuck you more. There just isn't a way for men and women to be friends. Maybe in old age when the man's libido has died and his penis is limp and useless.

Literally anything a woman does to a man makes him want to fuck her. You're absolutely correct. The only other exception I can think of is a woman the man isn't sexually attracted to.

 

[Dyn]

Literally anything a woman does to a man makes him want to fuck her. You're absolutely correct. The only other exception I can think of is a woman the man isn't sexually attracted to.

No we'd still fuck women we aren't attracted to, if they'd let us.

 

[Susanna]

Treating men like dogshit is still too nice and too emotionally invested for us to handle without assuming you're just trying to get a rough one off us.

The ideal male friendship is two people who don't talk to each other for six years and then one of them needs help moving a fridge so you move the fridge together and drink some beers and talk about football. That's what you should be aiming for. If that doesn't sound like a fulfilling friendship to you, male friendships probably aren't your thing.

Being a man sure sounds miserable. Couldn’t have happened to nicer people.

 

[Catloaf]

The only other exception I can think of is a woman the man isn't sexually attracted to.

They do... Allow me to introduce you to the term "hate-fucking"