Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

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Have you personally fucked a woman you don't find attractive? Like how do you stay hard? Viagra?
Yes you just think about how you're ruining her reputation and virtue and basically destroying her life with your penis, you'll be diamonds. If she's really gross you might have to close your eyes and think about how you've never even bothered to get tested for disease or how she might need an abortion and get mentally traumatised later.
 
Women can be friends to men, but men can not be our friends. At least I have never seen it work out and all my guy friends always stopped talking to me when I got into a relationship. I am convinced men always have ulterior motives, because they just don't enjoy the company of women unless there is the possibility of sex on the horizon or they enjoy oogling her. I also have never seen a man be friends with a fat woman, which undermines my beliefs. It is what it is.

An exception to this might be if the friendship is like a mommy replacement figure and is doing emotional labour for the guy so much that it makes it worth for him to keep her around just to have someone to whine too. But one sided friendships like this aren't really "friendship".
I think I drafted and deleted a comment the other day on this. I have typically had a lot of guy/men friends - more than women, by the numbers. At some point in the not too distant past, after some serious self-examination, I took a fresh look at these men/friendships. Bottom line: an objective look showed that those friendships were, by and large, either superficial, vampiric [my bad for getting gassed up by successfully helping people through really rough times], or a "maybe there's a chance/maybe she'll fuck me; lemme keep pushing and trying" situation - or a combo. In short, not worthy of my effort or time. I dumped/discarded every single one of them, a couple with commentary owing to our history, mostly just blanking them. And nothing of value was lost. In fact, immense gain, because my emotional labor output nosedived toward feckless twits and got reallocated to things that actually enhance my life.

I don't like to speak or think in broad, unqualified generalizations, but damn if there isn't something to it.

Never been on the pill because it can cause weight gain. I know there's other options.
I think that anything hormonal may carry some possibility of weight gain, but for most it is very temporary or not at all. But my experience/views are these:

1. If my recollection^ is correct, and if the potential for or potential amount of weight gain correlates to the amount or type of hormones used, do know that the level of hormones in today's pill is a tiny fraction of what it once was. This article seems to confirm my recollection on both points.

2. To the above point, I first went on bcp ~30 years ago, when hormone levels in bcp were much higher. If there was any weight gain attributable to the pill, I personally didn't notice it and/or it was brief. I'll also add that my (anecdotal, obvs) experience was that I didn't experience any change or struggle when I switched pills or took a break then went back on.

3. After having each baby* I went back on birth control and had no issue getting back my pre-baby body even being kind of a sloth, between an insane work schedule and caring for kids (and to be clear I am not one of those enviable "I can eat whatever and just stay trim" women; I have always had to be intentional about it).

* As to the concern - very possibly real - that there may be a fertility lag after coming off hormonal birth control, my personal experience was no. I got knocked up in the first month or two of trying . Ymmv.

4. Any weight gain resulting from hormonal birth control is almost always less than the 25-35 lb common weight increase during pregnancy :biggrin:

None of that^ is meant to tell you what you "should" be doing, just information and personal experience. I highly highly highly recommend every sexually active woman use birth control that she controls, whenever possible and not contraindicated for specific medical reasons. I would never, ever trust a man to manage that or otherwise rely solely on an "optional" method. (And don't get me started on the NFP people I know with more kids than intended.). So whatever you do, please protect and take care of yourself first and foremost.
 
Birth control pills fuck up your emotions and libido in my experience. Would never take anything hormonal again. I think women should go on a sex strike until men invent male birth control tbh. The male birth control pill that made men commit suicide sounded really promising.
Recently stopped after bleeding for 2 fucking months
 
Women with a very regular cycle should honestly just do natural birth control by tracking fertile days and EWCM and just using a condom around that time. It's harder to get pregnant than people think (even if you have unprotected sex at the optimal time right before ovulation there is only a 30% chance to get pregnant), but we need to actually educate women about how the menstrual cycle works.
 
I think women should go on a sex strike until men invent male birth control tbh.
Sex strikes only work in backwards primitive cultures where women's only societal bargaining chip is between her legs. Men in the west have thrown their toys out of the pram and given up, so if you want male birth control pills you can just like, make a government research grant or whatever. Girlboss shit.

Personally though I think males should just get mandatory vasectomies as soon as they're reproductively potent. If they can find a woman who wants to start a family with them in the next ten years or so before the vasectomy becomes irreversible she can fill out a statement of intent form and have it reversed, otherwise he can just live a happy and fulfilling life as a hit-the-wall deadspermer.

I like this option because it's fair to both sexes and also forcing males to breed early or not at all will cut down on the immense rate of autistic children being fathered by old men's sperm.
 
I think males should just get mandatory vasectomies as soon as they're reproductively potent. If they can find a woman who wants to start a family with them in the next ten years or so before the vasectomy becomes irreversible she can fill out a statement of intent form and have it reversed
Excellent idea!

hit-the-wall deadspermer
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The state of the bathrooms I’ve seen would suggest otherwise.
Throwback to when this guy came into this thread to say women are dirtier than men because public women's restrooms are sometimes gross. Turns out this guy is a furry who wears diapers and wants to fuck his own mom.

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More in this thread where he got doxed.
 
I've cleaned public male and female bathrooms. Dealing with the little boxes for disposal of menstruation products is gross but the men left a lot more public hair and piss everywhere.
ive had to clean male and female restrooms at my job. both are fucking disgusting.

I worked at a cheap bargain store and most of the shoppers were poor immigrants coming from countries where they couldnt flush their toilet paper. as a result at the end of the day, the trash cans in the stalls were filled with shit stained toilet paper.

i dont hate men or women, i hate central americans and their awful pumbing
 
I don't know whose bathrooms are worse on average but on two occasions I had a female friend tell me we had to go find another place for her to go pee because a mentally ill woman was doing poo graffiti when she walked in and that's something I've never seen in a male shitter.

I don't think that's evidence of anything but my moidbrain finds poo graffiti too funny not to bring up when I get a chance.
 
When I do all this shit I come across as needy or desperate. I have done it and still do a lot of the time but the reality is people just do not care and more often want you to go away cause youre being a creep or are too needy. Ive heard someone say this that the best lesson a man learns in his life is the complete apathy of the universe towards him and the rest of humanity, the universe and other people dont care about you and arent obligated to care about you, which is true, you are alone in the universe. People dont care about other people and when someone does put in the effort to care they come across as creepy or needy unless theyre family. Why bother doing it.

When you give to or care about people, do it without expectation or investment. If they give back, great, you're on the same page. If not, go on your merry way.

There are two errors: 1) giving more than you can afford to lose and 2) deciding that apathy or antipathy are the only alternatives to being a simp. Both are corroding and wrong. Two unironic recommendations both for people who feel or are trampled on, and for people who shut down as a result:

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It's nice to be interested in and supportive of people. Not everyone gets to that point at the same time. It is possible to protect your inner self without becoming alienated.

Well, yeah, it's 100% needy and desperate and creepy. The male mind is not built to accept kindness or consideration or compassion
Nawt true.
and I actively reject it because it makes me feel weird in my tummy.
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ive had to clean male and female restrooms at my job. both are fucking disgusting.

I worked at a cheap bargain store and most of the shoppers were poor immigrants coming from countries where they couldnt flush their toilet paper. as a result at the end of the day, the trash cans in the stalls were filled with shit stained toilet paper.

i dont hate men or women, i hate central americans and their awful pumbing
I didn't deal with too many Central Americans, but I dealt with incontinent old folks who would blast shit on the bathroom walls or the toilet seats.
 
Men, or at least incels, have this amusing habit of talking about biology in this creepy idealized way where "We are meant to be the protectors! The providers! We fight wars and build civilizations!" as if absolutely every single one of them was Suleiman the Magnificent or Alexander the Great and not some lonely out of shape weeb masturbating to anime

Adding to that is the fucking creepy way they describe women. All that shit about eggs and how "They should want to get fucked by ME" is extremely fucking creepy, yet sad at the same time
 
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