Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[Kheapathic]

I just want my highway litter cleaned up and my balls waxed; why is this so difficult?

 

[Salty Squid]

I just want my highway litter cleaned up and my balls waxed; why is this so difficult?

Waxed balls? What are you, a faggot? No wonder there's less and less testosterone in men these days. MANkind has degenerated into nothing but a bunch of hairless sissies. What's next, you gonna paint your nails? All pretty in pink with glitter?

 

[Xenomorph]

Why do men seethe this hard over one fucking thread when there are whole forums dedicated to hating women?

 

[RACISM]

I see men on 4chan guess how many women post all the time. I think their numbers are far, far lower than the reality

I can give a snapshot for /pol/ in 2016 because I was making and posting meme videos for the election there. Nothing major, but they would get a few thousand views, so enough to be statistically interesting. YouTube had a stats thing so you could see things about the accounts that watched them.

So what percentage of /pol/ was male in 2016?

Spoiler

97%

 

[𝕺𝖑' 𝕯𝖎𝖗𝖙𝖞 𝕱𝖆𝖙𝖘𝖔]

No sensible man wants to see his mother, sisters or wife going through that.

I wish people would stop using this shit as some kind of rhetoric

My own brother is fucking pond scum who sees me as less than human for literally no reason, he subjected me to numerous assaults and constant psychological abuse into his late 20s and got away with it even though he should be rotting in prison... all because his sociopathic ass was able to manipulate cops into dismissing it as "siblings infighting" instead of as violent crime with a clear perpetrator and victim.

Women being family means nothing to a sick fuck man. Most women who are victims of awful crimes face it at the hands of male family.

 

[Lidl Drip]

The light at the end of the tunnel is that it's easier to get the message through by reminding us of the women in our lives. Still selfish when you break it down, but it works. No sensible man wants to see his mother, sisters or wife going through that.

Men in the middle east literally stone their own wife and daughters to death if another man rapes them. The only reason men care if their wife or daughter is harassed by other men is because "this is MY property and if you rape it then it loses it's value". Not because they have empathy or care.

 

[Lady Bizness]

I just want my highway litter cleaned up and my balls waxed; why is this so difficult?

Hope you find a stout swarthy fellow in a reflective vest who will do both of these things for you.

 

[Psyduck]

Women being family means nothing to a sick fuck man. Most women who are victims of awful crimes face it at the hands of male family.

Agreed, that's why i made it clear that this didnt apply to every man

Men in the middle east literally stone their own wife and daughters to death if another man rapes them. The only reason men care if their wife or daughter is harassed by other men is because "this is MY property and if you rape it then it loses it's value". Not because they have empathy or care.

Also agreed, note that i mentioned that ultimately any empathy coming from us boils down to selfishness

 

[pursuitsnail]

Here's the answer to the highlight, we don't want to say it out loud because it makes us look worse, and you won't like to hear it either.

"Why should i do better?"

I'm not gonna say selfishness is a purely male trait, but regarding your question, it's the only right answer. We don't like to perform unless we are certain there's a reward at the end of the tip. Goes from receiving sex all the way to just having a smile flashed back at us. It's all about the feeling of achievement and reward.

It's not hard to check ourselves, you're absolutely right. It's as simple as treating others the way you want to be treated, but the fact of the matter is that we are selfish that way. How does being better benefit *us*?

The women in our lives will feel more comfortable and easier on their shoes? That's aight... But what do *i* get out of it?

You'll become a much more pleasant person to be around? I don't care about that. Give *me* something!

How about just doing it because it's the right thing to do? Fuck off.

Not all of us are like this, obviously. But it's a percentage big enough to be worrisome. The light at the end of the tunnel is that it's easier to get the message through by reminding us of the women in our lives. Still selfish when you break it down, but it works. No sensible man wants to see his mother, sisters or wife going through that.

And this is why sad man tears are treated with such contempt by women.

Why won't you smile more?
Why won't you be friendlier?
Why won't you give a nice guy(tm) and chance?
Why won't you just settle?
Why are you upset that he doesn't care about you, when all he wanted was to get his dick wet?
What does this guy get out of not being a total cockhole who views women as less than human when all of his peers think the same?

Or, maybe, why should women choose the enraged redditor over a pet cat? The cat doesn't pretend to be anything other than it is. We know the cat will never see us as its equal and will treat us with disdain, but it's way more charming than the redditor and has better hygiene.

 

[Otis Mallebrok]

I wonder why so many men seem to think they are bound by their reactive urges. Presumably, most of these men are sentient, some even intelligent. If you know you're an ape at heart, ok, but then - try not to be an ape. It's not hard to check yourself. If you (the general you) wanted to do better, you would. But there's a circle-jerk culture of self-reinforcing affirmation for being an ape, lately cloaked as bIoLoGy, as if individuals were helpless to moderate it. It's weak and lame and lazy. Do better.

I agree with you halfway, but I also think that the reality is that men are just worse at impulse control than women. A lot worse. And that is largely due to biology.

We men are much more likely to develop addictions, to gamble, we are much, much more reckless, and have something like six times higher rates of work accidents, car accidents, climbing accidents, and of course we are much more violent and aggressive. And men are much more sexually promiscous than women. Just compare the sexual activities of gay men and lesbians.

And yes, to become well-adjusted mature adults we men need to learn to think with our brains, rather than our cocks. But I also think that men, more than women, needs to be directed towards that end with strong social norms, taboos, stigmatisation of deviancy and public shaming of transgressors. And society is not exactly moving in that direction, unfortunately. Regards

 

[Stan]

You'll become a much more pleasant person to be around? I don't care about that. Give *me* something!

Is one's partner becoming more pleasant to be around *not* a reward you get to personally enjoy? Does it not affect you at all whether your girlfriend is being a steaming bitch most of the time vs. happy most of the time?

Fact is, you get away with it because you're allowed to. Women oughta go all Lysistrata on their partners when this bullshit occurs but we don't. I blame being socialized to care about other people's needs and feelings more than my own. That and the fear of abandonment/being alone.

 

[Lidl Drip]

Fact is, you get away with it because you're allowed to. Women oughta go all Lysistrata on their partners when this bullshit occurs but we don't. I blame being socialized to care about other people's needs and feelings more than my own. That and the fear of abandonment/being alone.

It's funny that men always whine about how the evil women always ruin their life by divorcing them, when for every woman who has the strength to divorce a guy there are 10 women suffering silently for the sake of their kids.

 

[Catloaf]

It's funny that men always whine about how the evil women always ruin their life by divorcing them, when for every woman who has the strength to divorce a guy there are 10 women suffering silently for the sake of their kids.

I see all this as projection tbh

 

[Lidl Drip]

I see all this as projection tbh

Yeah that's all men know how to do.

Man cheats on his wife.
She divorces him.
Man: "YOU ruined our family!!!"
Man doesn't put in any effort to see his children after the divorce. Doesn't even petition for shared custody in most cases. Doesn't even send child support most of the time.
Man:"Single mothers are what's wrong with society!! Evil family court system trying to keep the man down!!"

It's easy to blame everyone else but themselves. Men are totally incapable of accountability.

 

[Dysnomia]

That was common sense on the Internet 20 to 25 years ago, hell as recent as ten. Every forum I've ever gone on, despite choosing a sort of female sounding screenname, I wouldn't advertise my sex. And I got away with it. You'd be amazed (well, probably not) how dimwitted males are, talking to someone with a female sounding screenname, yet calling me "him". I wouldn't correct them until I got well integrated into the forum and felt okay with revealing my actual sex. And of course, even though most people were okay, you'd always get one or two fucking weirdos who wouldn't leave you alone. I'm sure plenty of women never reveal it. Men think they are the center of the universe, that every place they inhabit is female-free because those icky vaginas are too dumb to have interests, yet women post without revealing our sex all the time. I see men on 4chan guess how many women post all the time. I think their numbers are far, far lower than the reality, at least on the actual interest boards. The art on the porn boards is too ugly to be posted by women.

All the more reason the whole "pronouns in bio" thing still baffles me to this day. I came from a time where you didn't do that. I used to almost exclusively see youngfag millennials, who may as well be zoomers, and zoomers do it. But even older people do it now on Twitter. It's fucking bizarre.

Years ago I had some autist from GameFAQs send threatening IMs to another user I was friends with because I talked to him more. It was so embarrassing and everyone ended up blocking him. I'd like to add that the user I talked to more was never perverted and I still talk to him 20 years later. I imagine the autist thought we were cybering. we weren't. It was mostly "lol so random" stuff that really helped me feel better when I was stressed.

Another autist was sexually harassing me and another female user with constant, unwanted date RPs over AIM. Most of the GameFAQs users I talked to over AIM were cool. But I ended up with a little block list and accidentally blocked my whole friends list for a couple days because I was so annoyed blocking pervs and autists and I didn't realise what I did .I made some people temp mad at me. Eventually I made my list invite only by adding only people I liked who could act normal.

AIM was a real bastion of crazy if you let randos IM you. You learn fast that it's not a good idea. I even had someone get upset at me when I refused dick pics. Remember, all this stuff is 15+ years ago so it's way worse now. I think it's probably a good thing AIM died. But Discord looks to be even worse.

 

[Big Miss Steak]

Some reasons I have been given for why men have it harder than women/women have it easier than men

1. The military draft. The chances of a draft happening in the Current Era is <10%. People don't trust the government anymore and aren't willing to be dragged from their homes and chucked overseas to the meat grinder for The Man. Doesn't count.
2. Higher rates of homelessness. Men can have half of this one, it is true that women (esp with kids) are priority when it comes to homeless aid. But the main reason you don't see as many homeless women is that they get fucking murdered.
3. Higher suicide rate. I blame men's hesitancy to seek help for mental health. Women are far more likely to actually be diagnosed with mental illness, and it's because they go seek professional help when they need it.
4. Higher rates of substance abuse. See above. Also men's poor impulse control.
5. Only being valued for what they bring to the table (looks, financial income). All I can imagine is that men think the occasional asspats women get ("So-and-so started a company from the ground up AND she's a woman") translates into actual real-world benefit. Which it often doesn't. Women are valued for their looks and social status same as men. Women who are ugly are worth less than women who are poor.
6. Having to defend the family. That's the tradeoff for being large and strong enough to beat the shit out of more than half the population (women and children combined).
7. Being the main provider. More and more households are dual-income now because women return to work after childbirth, so the burden on men is greatly lessened. Women have to juggle child-rearing and a career which is far more of a burden than just maintaining a career. If the mom is a stay at home mom then the man can have this one even though rearing children is far more difficult than men want to admit.
8. Less consideration given to their feelings. Then compliment and support each other. The problem IMO is that men link compliments and emotional support with sexual desire. Thus they expect these things only from women who are sexually interested in them and think men giving them these things is gay. Emotional vulnerability is judged more harshly in men, but that judgement mostly comes from other men. Men also don't seem to understand the line between emotional vulnerability and whining/self-pity.
9. Women can ruin men's lives with rape accusations. This boils down to friends and family choosing to believe the woman over the man, which would certainly suck. But men really aren't losing their jobs or being thrown in prison over baseless accusations, and this is nowhere near as devastating as actual sexual abuse/assault. I also refuse to believe this is as commonplace as a lot of men claim. If I had to guess I'd say for every man whose life is ruined by false accusations of rape, there are 5 or more women who have been actually abused or assaulted. [Every woman who tries to lash out at a man in this way out of spite should be hanged by the neck until dead]
10. Women have an easier time getting laid/there are no femcels. Finding a woman who will let you bone her for money or other favors isn't hard, whether or not prostitution is legal where you live. If you are looking for a relationship, and are swiping right on literally everyone and still have no luck, then you are an absolutely revolting slob of unimaginable proportions or give off serial killer vibes, both of which can be worked on. When you dig into it, incels really are looking for a more serious partner and are punching well above their weight class in the majority of cases. Which makes you a volcel.

 

[Generic Anime Girl]

Chris Chan's case being dismissed is yet another reminder that men often get away with heinous sex crimes!

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

I agree with you halfway, but I also think that the reality is that men are just worse at impulse control than women. A lot worse. And that is largely due to biology.

We men are much more likely to develop addictions, to gamble, we are much, much more reckless, and have something like six times higher rates of work accidents, car accidents, climbing accidents, and of course we are much more violent and aggressive. And men are much more sexually promiscous than women. Just compare the sexual activities of gay men and lesbians.

And yes, to become well-adjusted mature adults we men need to learn to think with our brains, rather than our cocks. But I also think that men, more than women, needs to be directed towards that end with strong social norms, taboos, stigmatisation of deviancy and public shaming of transgressors. And society is not exactly moving in that direction, unfortunately. Regards

Sure, I'll accept that there are sex-related tendencies (nature or nurture, doesn't matter for this point). But we are not completely imprisoned by them. That's why I say, "do better." You (any "you") feel a certain thought or urge - doesn't mean you have to obey it.

Agree that some parts of society have lost the plot of self-management, and as that is obviously an appealing idea to many, it's challenging norms and standard expectations. Not all challenge is terrible (not all old ideas are good), but some is (many old ideas have verifiable societal benefits), and dumping self-management altogether as a goal/effort/standard seems manifestly destructive - both to society, and to individuals.

Maybe it's harder for some people to manage their impulses. OK. Doesn't mean it shouldn't be an aim. Some people have the urge to murder, or steal other people blind. I think it's not controversial to say that those urges ought to be stifled.

Being the main provider. More and more households are dual-income now because women return to work after childbirth, so the burden on men is greatly lessened. Women have to juggle child-rearing and a career which is far more of a burden than just maintaining a career. If the mom is a stay at home mom then the man can have this one even though rearing children is far more difficult than men want to admit.

I posted stats on this a page or two back. Women continue to increase in percentages of equal and primary-female earner households, and being a contributor in general. And - shocker - women still do more of the child-caring time and housework, even as they bring in equal or more money. Also shocker - in egalitarian households men spend more time on leisure than women. The only instance in which men do more child/house work than women is when women are the sole earner - and even in those cases they do far less of it, literally and proportionally, than women do when the man is the sole earner.

Less consideration given to their feelings. Then compliment and support each other. The problem IMO is that men link compliments and emotional support with sexual desire. Thus they expect these things only from women who are sexually interested in them and think men giving them these things is gay. Emotional vulnerability is judged more harshly in men, but that judgement mostly comes from other men. Men also don't seem to understand the line between emotional vulnerability and whining/self-pity.

This is an astute point.

Women can ruin men's lives with rape accusations. This boils down to friends and family choosing to believe the woman over the man, which would certainly suck. But men really aren't losing their jobs or being thrown in prison over baseless accusations, and this is nowhere near as devastating as actual sexual abuse/assault. I also refuse to believe this is as commonplace as a lot of men claim. If I had to guess I'd say for every man whose life is ruined by false accusations of rape, there are 5 or more women who have been actually abused or assaulted.

This is such a canard. The number of men's lives "ruined" or even meaningfully negatively impacted by baseless accusations is barely a sliver of the number of women's lives ruined or meaningfully negatively impacted by rape, sexual assault and discrimination. I think your "5" is exceptionally generous.

 

[Lidl Drip]

The only instance in which men do more child/house work than women is when women are the sole earner - and even in those cases they do far less of it, literally and proportionally, than women do when the man is the sole earner.

There are enough horror stories on reddit about how the "househusband" thing works out in reality. I remember one where the woman was suspicious why her child kept getting diaper rash and had a completely flat head and upon checking the baby monitor camera and home security cameras she found out her husband spent all day masturbating and playing videogames while the baby was left crying alone in the crib. He also never made food or cleaned anything. This woman ofc still made excuses for her husband and thought if only she talked to him he would change.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

There are enough horror stories on reddit about how the "househusband" thing works out in reality. I remember one where the woman was suspicious why her child kept getting diaper rash and had a completely flat head and upon checking the baby monitor camera and home security cameras she found out her husband spent all day masturbating and playing videogames while the baby was left crying alone in the crib. He also never made food or cleaned anything. This woman ofc still made excuses for her husband and thought if only she talked to him he would change.

I believe it. And while I think reddit is a not-accurate slice of broader society, those anecdotes align with the hard(er) data.

As for the woman in that anecdote you related, she needs to get a fucking spine and dump her disgusting husband. Ime, they don't get better.