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Gemmy thread! Total tranny death.
 

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Remember ladies, an unshaven woman is like stained clothing; simply unfit to be seen in public. Time to grow out of that phase, girls. Men, however, just need a bit of basic grooming and their hair is never unhygienic.
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Your daily reminder that men are the ultimate pickmes, live for the approval of other males and when they say "social convention" what they mean is other males will hold them powerfully socially in line in order to enforce patriarchal expectations on women. Hetero men are memed out of even liking women amd even tranny haters will use male trannies against women. Let's all throw our heads back and laugh.
 
But this is literally the only reason I'm against it
Yeah but I said truly anti-porn which means against it totally, which you admit you are not. Men being porn addicts affects the women they are in relationships with. You should take a look at /r/liveafterporn for example. There are many women who are married with children to porn addicts, they don't want to get divorced because of the children and because they would be judged harshly by absolutely everyone to get divorced over something that is so acceptable and normalized in our society that women who aren't okay with it are gaslit with "If you're not okay with it, you're insecure and you need to get over it". I know you think trannies are stunning and brave but in my opinion the reason that husbands and fathers are trooning out and creating transwidows is also related to pornography addiction. They are not just ruining their own life, they are ruining the life of their wife and kids also. It also makes men pressure women into performing things they saw in porn like anal sex or BDSM which is now being normalized thanks to porn.

Porn gives people horrible expectations of what sex should be like, look at fucking zoomers and how fucked they are from watching porn since they were 9. They start out their first time thinking that you need to choke, slap and spit on each other. Children are showing each other hardcore pornography on the school bus so there isn't even a way for parents to intervene by controlling their own internet at home because their friend from school with a smartphone will show it to them anyways. Plus with AI being mainstream now there are apps where you can just put in pictures of any woman you know and get a nude image of her. Can you imagine how this will affect young girls in school when their classmates are doing this and spreading it around? There is absolutely zero way to know how early and unlimited porn exposure will affect humanity going forward since it is unprecedented. It is unnatural. But you know it's not going to be good. We are already seeing some of the results in how many young people are no longer having relationships because it's much easier for young men to just watch porn instead of trying to socialize with the opposite sex. It's going to be a fucking disaster.
 
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Female socialization teaches us to caretake people's feelings. There's a low level threat at all times around, it feels like, where I have to take care of others feelings. Now as I've mentioned, I purposely do the opposite of that, and push through the fear that someone could react. But it is that which we talk about when we say all men benefit from violence against women; they keep us in place, taking care of their feelings, making sure not to make them mad, to apologize, to smooth over difficult interactions. That low level hum of anxiety you feel.? That's your body telling you to run.

Cutting all non essential males out of one's life greatly improves mental health.
all nonessential people for me, because unfortunately, with some of the women, a man is part of the package. i've done my time, and i have nothing left to give.

tried to reply -- @Dyn haven't read this since college, might help, idk
 
Can you imagine how this will affect young girls in school when their classmates are doing this and spreading it around?
a lot more of them will troon out or become nonbinary to escape the over-sexualisation, so that's one thing we can expect, they will be pretty fucked up when they realise how half the population views them and what they want to do to them.
 
Real question: Do you guys believe that there's a direct correlation between Internet porn and the increase of troonery. I go back and forth in my mind about this a lot. Internet porn has been prevalent since the 90s, and we saw troons start to pop around 2014-5. Are there multiple factors?
Maybe with MtF, but not with FtM. When I was a kid in the 2000's there were FtM people in my class. At the time, it was more about rejecting gender norms because the idea of the wage gap, pink tax, and having to be in a straight relationship sucked. None of them wanted to be girls because being a woman in society at that time was like biting onto the muzzle of shotgun. You were expected to grow up to be the loser's little wifey, become basically your husband's new mother, get beat after football games, and have sex with a man regardless of your consent. For FtMs abandoning femininity was a kind of freedom, it's tragic that it's freedom from a system made by men to become men, though.
 
Yeah but I said truly anti-porn which means against it totally, which you admit you are not.
Nobody can be totally against porn just because it's exploitative and produced unethically, because those are not fundamentally inherent issues. They're issues that could, at least in theory, be fixed. If they're fixed, and you're still against porn, then that was not your reason. If they're fixed, and you're no longer against porn, you were never totally against it.

Your other arguments, I do sympathise with, because I agree with them all on a gut level, but what I can't get past is that I cannot imagine any pornless society in which sexuality, especially female sexuality, isn't completely demonised and repressed. That's what is completely unprecedented, and unimaginable to me. I don't think we've ever had anything like that, in the history of humanity. No matter how far back we go, if we look at the raunchy pre-plague Middle Ages, we see depictions of sex and sexuality permeating all aspects of their culture, from bollock daggers to monks doodling little kama sutra gangbangs in the margins of all their chronicles, to women thinking nipple piercings are an acceptable substitute for tops, to big veiny 18-inch photorealistic codpieces being worn in polite society.

The mass proliferation of porn as we know it started with the sexual revolution, and the more I think about that, the more doubtful I am that it's not just an inherent part of any open, permissive society, and that we can't ever be wholly divorced from it without a return to moralism, austerity and repression, which would overwhelmingly target and punish women. Mass media and technology might have made it worse and more unavoidable and more easily accessible than it's ever been, and introduced a massive new wave of problems associated with it, but no matter how bad it gets the only kind of society I can imagine without it looks less and less like a liberal democracy, and more and more like a Handmaid's Tale.

The tl;dr is, I don't think porn is great. I do think it's damaging, and dehumanising, and exploitative. I think it should be treated as an unsavoury vice, and largely avoided. But I just can't imagine society ever having a remotely healthy attitude towards sex without an unavoidable byproduct of that being that porn is produced in the margins and somewhat accepted in the mainstream.
tried to reply -- @Dyn haven't read this since college, might help, idk
https://archive.org/details/pornographysilen00grif
Thank you, I'll read this one. It looks like it's coming at the issue from exactly the angle I'm having trouble with.
 
People who say that women weren't important in the Bible haven't read the Bible. Women played some shockingly pivotal roles in scripture when viewed through the lens of the culture of the time. Rahab's pretty cool.
According to the Bible, the perfect woman buys and develops land, and runs her own business. Proverbs 31:10-31

Not to say there isn't some blatant misogyny in the Bible, but I find this passage interesting.
 
Children are showing each other hardcore pornography on the school bus so there isn't even a way for parents to intervene by controlling their own internet at home because their friend from school with a smartphone will show it to them anyways. Plus with AI being mainstream now there are apps where you can just put in pictures of any woman you know and get a nude image of her. Can you imagine how this will affect young girls in school when their classmates are doing this and spreading it around
A teacher friend told me stories she'd heard of boys as young as first grade looking up rape porn and animal torture. Men are irredemable, even as children.
 
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While we're on the subject of sex traitors, allow me to sperg briefly (but autistically) about how much I fucking hate authors like Stephenie Meyer, E. L. James, and all the other "romance" writers who fetishize abuse. Whenever men try to argue that women like being raped and abused, they almost always bring up these bitches as though they're the norm and totally ignore how any woman over the age 18 and in their sound mind is absolutely disgusted by these stories. If they're popular, it's because of shock value, or they appeal to an audience who doesn't know better (like  Twilight).
Slight disagree. While Twilight and 50 Shades are both unpleasant, it’s possible that some women really enjoy these books and the sex scenes (or in the case of Twilight, not-sex scenes) that doesn’t mean they want this scenario to play out in their lives. Some people like thrillers, but they don’t want to be personally haunted by a ghost, or murdered by Saw. I enjoy reading about true crime, but not because I’m planning to commit one or want to be the victim of a violent criminal. I liked Wuthering Heights, but that doesn’t mean I’d like to marry Heathcliff IRL so he can throw knives at me. This notion that if you enjoy a genre of media means you want that exact scenario for your life is beyond silly. The men can get this when they are playing their vidya and got really upset when Anita said that because many action games force you to kill certain women to advance the plot, the players would become more sexist and violent. So why do they act stupid when it comes to women and their books?

It’s really just because they want every possible excuse to justify rape and abuse. Sickening.
 
While we're on the subject of sex traitors, allow me to sperg briefly (but autistically) about how much I fucking hate authors like Stephenie Meyer, E. L. James, and all the other "romance" writers who fetishize abuse. Whenever men try to argue that women like being raped and abused, they almost always bring up these bitches as though they're the norm and totally ignore how any woman over the age 18 and in their sound mind is absolutely disgusted by these stories. If they're popular, it's because of shock value, or they appeal to an audience who doesn't know better (like  Twilight).

Just because a few mentally ill handmaidens would rather write stupid books than go to therapy doesn't mean the entire female sex wants to be abused, scrotes. Any man who disagrees with me is a narcissistic creep and should not have access to women, children, and animals. (And neither should these authors, for that matter.)
Colleen Hoover is the newest of these, she is supposedly very popular on TikTok. All of her books are about terrible, abusive, toxic men grooming women into relationships with them it seems.

Anyway, right now on r/teachers there's a 4th-grade teacher being sexually harassed by a male child. There was a scrote in the replies saying we shouldn't "crucify" the boy. I checked his profile and he seems to teach 3rd-graders.
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This is so sad. This world is so pornsick.
 
Slight disagree. While Twilight and 50 Shades are both unpleasant, it’s possible that some women really enjoy these books and the sex scenes (or in the case of Twilight, not-sex scenes) that doesn’t mean they want this scenario to play out in their lives. Some people like thrillers, but they don’t want to be personally haunted by a ghost, or murdered by Saw. I enjoy reading about true crime, but not because I’m planning to commit one or want to be the victim of a violent criminal. I liked Wuthering Heights, but that doesn’t mean I’d like to marry Heathcliff IRL so he can throw knives at me. This notion that if you enjoy a genre of media means you want that exact scenario for your life is beyond silly. The men can get this when they are playing their vidya and got really upset when Anita said that because many action games force you to kill certain women to advance the plot, the players would become more sexist and violent. So why do they act stupid when it comes to women and their books?

It’s really just because they want every possible excuse to justify rape and abuse. Sickening.
I agree. Also the appeal with men like Edward is that he is extremely considerate and concerned with Bella's safety and that he has to fight his own biological urges that hardwire him to kill her and drink her blood because he just loves her soooooooooooooo much. It fulfills women's fantasy of a man loving you to an extreme degree, wanting to protect you from all harm even if it hurts him, while also desiring you on a carnal level and at the same time holding back due to his supernatural self-control. Basically it's all the things real life men are severely lacking. I haven't read 50 Shades since it's just a Twilight fanfiction but with BDSM, which doesn't interest me.

I do find it funny tho that women's fantasies mostly seem to be about love and romance and sex in the context of a relationship while men's fantasies just boil down to fucking a harem of teenage girls. That's why I find it so hilarious when men try to make fun of women for reading romance novels while they jerk off to gross porn of real life women being abused. Yeah totally comparable.

Honestly you'd think that men would be bigger fans of Twilight since it's literally their ultimate dream relationship: a traditional conservative white man marries young teenage girl, she is a virgin until their wedding night where she immediately becomes pregnant. I guess they would ship her with the dog tho and be disappointed when they dont end up together.
 
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Colleen Hoover is the newest of these, she is supposedly very popular on TikTok. All of her books are about terrible, abusive, toxic men grooming women into relationships with them it seems.

Anyway, right now on r/teachers there's a 4th-grade teacher being sexually harassed by a male child. There was a scrote in the replies saying we shouldn't "crucify" the boy. I checked his profile and he seems to teach 3rd-graders.
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This is so sad. This world is so pornsick.
They have a student portal, but no way to report inappropriate behavior? There should be a way to report that to administration and parents, and the teacher shouldn't have any second thoughts about hitting that button. Better to learn that lesson in the fourth grade than to let it go so it can get worse.
 
Another issue is that it seems to have gone from breadwinner and homemaker to dominant and submissive.
It’s disgusting how men have tried to make submissive (ie inferior) a goal for women to be. It makes it seem like women are inherently beneath men
Well I'd like to agree, but I have had many discussions with 50+ year old men who have had relationships and still buy into it. They parrot the MRA bullshit and keep themselves nice and miserable with that
And I bet they were all single
Even John Waters, the guy who’s made some of the most fucked up movies ever, called straight porn some of the most fucked up and degrading shit he's ever seen because of this.

A teacher friend told me stories she'd heard of boys as young as first grade looking up rape porn and animal torture. Men are irredemable, even as children.

Colleen Hoover is the newest of these, she is supposedly very popular on TikTok. All of her books are about terrible, abusive, toxic men grooming women into relationships with them it seems.

Anyway, right now on r/teachers there's a 4th-grade teacher being sexually harassed by a male child. There was a scrote in the replies saying we shouldn't "crucify" the boy. I checked his profile and he seems to teach 3rd-graders.
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This is so sad. This world is so pornsick.
Wow who would have thought that an entire genelation of boys raised on “dumb cunt gets abused in all her holes” porn could lead to an uptick in the dehumanization of women? Absolutely shocking
 
it hit me that a factor in men trooning out could be that they, by and large, have literally 0 context for what being a woman is like beyond their mothers and porn. They're probably just sexpests trying to convert to living cocksleeve because that's what they think a woman is. I've honestly never seen a MtF person that wasn't a sex obsessed degenerate.
 
I so absolutely wish women did have more class solidarity, however. I feel like maybe I’ve been seeing more of it over the last few years IRL, but I’ve also been trying to be more optimistic in general and might just be looking for it more and ad such it could be confirmation bias, IDK
I know people are probably tired of hearing me talk about it but it was just such an intensely blackpilling experience for me and made me rethink how I felt about so many different social issues i just can’t believr that millions of women stood in line with a man who said he wanted to rape a woman’s corpse, the millions of women saying that women just get away with abuse and parroting mra talking points, making fun if her rape testimony and saying they wish depp would rape them, saying they hate women. Women were unironically more vicious towards her than men, I just can’t believe women are so self hating. I truly believed in female solidarity but after that I really grappled with my support of women and I just thought to myself “why support them if they don’t suport themselves” why should I even care? Women will stand by misogyny and support men if it’s an old washed up actor that they like. I of course grew out of it but reading women talk about how much harder men have it and that ”females” are so evil to men legit brought me to tears. in A fucking post rvw world women are still advocating for men. How many more times do men have to tell us straight to our face’s how much they hate us before women wise up. They beat us, rape us, murder us, bred us like fucking dogs and women still don’t care. They still love men no matter what. Where’s this love for us. Show me one moment in history where men have rallied for women like this. They had their chance with rvw and what did they do? Mocked and taunted us, say that we deserved it, said the we needed to be out back in our place. After all that simping for men just a month before and they still don’t fucking care. If women showed an ounce of the anger and hate they showed to amber towards misogyny or rapists or trannies we’d be in a much better spot. Anyways sorry about the rant it just still pisses me tf off I just hate men and misogyny so fucking much I want to cry
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how tf can women stand by this? i wish women cared more about ourselves. I wish women hated men. I guess I can take solace in the fact that there’s probably more manhaters now through out all of history so I guess that helps
 
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