Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

Collecting toy dinosaurs and hanging out with bugs and reptiles seems more boyish than anything.
You need to get out more - it's weird that you think of this as a "boy/child" interest instead of just an interest.

There are plenty of women with interests like these - reptile area of a zoo and you'll find 'em as keepers. I wouldn't call these women "tomboys". They're women that love reptiles.

The only things that I would "code" as purely child (boy/girl) interests are things that you grow out of like imaginary friends, tea parties with dolls, pretending to be a ninja Jedi Robot etc

I think you're letting your status as "Le Quirky Kiwisister" mess with your thinking.

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Collecting toy dinosaurs and hanging out with bugs and reptiles seems more boyish than anything.
There are adult men who call themselves "collectors" to spend hundreds and thousands a month on legos, action figures, transformer toys, other stupid "boy" shit. You just need to call it something different as a grown-up. Reword your quote as "I have a hobby in collecting models of prehistoric [insert era] animals. I also care for exotic pets, specifically in the fields of insects and reptiles.", and suddenly it's not boyish anymore.
 
Yep. Saying I'm an autistic tomboy gives most people a pretty good idea of what I'm like in a few words.
You need to get out more - it's weird that you think of this as a "boy/child" interest instead of just an interest.
When I was growing up it was definitely an interest that "wasn't appropriate for a girl your age!". My sister even decided she was all of a sudden afraid of bugs/reptiles around middle school (she loved them as much as I did before that) in order to conform to gender stereotypes. Which is still the weirdest shit to me.
There are plenty of women with interests like these - reptile area of a zoo and you'll find 'em as keepers. I wouldn't call these women "tomboys". They're women that love reptiles.
I'm friends with a lot of those women, and a lot of them call themselves tomboys as well.
Collecting toy dinosaurs when you're an adult isn't "boyish", it means you're emotionally stunted and haven't progressed past the mental age of 11.
There are entire lines of dinosaur toys aimed at adults now, like Beasts of the Mesozoic and Mattel's Hammond Collection JP toys.

I'm going to keep calling myself a tomboy and keep ignoring what incels on the internet think the word means. They don't like real tomboys anyway, just anime characters they can project as having exactly the same views and interests as them.

More women should feel free to call themselves whatever they want and be GNC as adults.
I remember when being a tomboy was so simple back then, it just meant I hated wearing skirts and wanted to build stick houses in the woods with my friends.
I still build stick houses in the woods
 
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TL;DR Despite FAS being regarded as something affected by the mother's alcohol consumption, a study from last year found that the development of the fetus can in fact also be affected by the father's alcohol consumption – even if it's as low as the legal limit.

https://today.tamu.edu/2023/04/12/f...ked-to-brain-and-facial-defects-in-offspring/
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Father’s Alcohol Consumption Before Conception Linked To Brain And Facial Defects In Offspring
Fetal alcohol syndrome-related craniofacial differences could be seen in offspring born to fathers who regularly consumed as little alcohol as the legal limit.

According to the U.S. Surgeon General, women should not drink alcoholic beverages during pregnancy because of the risk of birth defects in their unborn child. Now, research at Texas A&M University demonstrates that a father’s alcohol consumption before conception also links to growth defects that affect the development of his offspring’s brain, skull and face.

Research investigating fetal alcohol syndrome (FAS) exclusively examines maternal alcohol exposure. However, because men drink more and are more likely to binge drink than women, Dr. Michael Golding, an associate professor in the School of Veterinary Medicine and Biomedical Sciences’ Department of Veterinary Physiology and Pharmacology, and his team set out to challenge the existing dogma, using a mouse model to examine what happens when the mother, father and both parents consume alcohol.

In a new article published in the Journal of Clinical Investigation, Golding and his team found that male alcohol consumption before conception caused FAS brain and facial growth defects.

“We found that male exposures actually drive certain craniofacial differences much stronger than maternal exposures do, so this programming effect that’s coming through sperm has a profound effect on the organization of the face and the growth and proportion of different facial features,” Golding said. “When it was the dad drinking, we saw a profound shift in the organization of the face.”

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the National Institutes of Health (NIH), FAS is a fetal disorder caused by maternal alcohol consumption during pregnancy.

FAS is hard to diagnose, but when doing so, doctors currently look for abnormal facial features; lower-than-average weight, height or both; central nervous system problems such as a small head size, problems with attention and hyperactivity or poor coordination; and verification of maternal alcohol use during pregnancy.

“When doctors suspect a child has FAS, they sit down with the mother to confirm the diagnosis by discussing her drinking habits during pregnancy,” Golding said. “It’s not uncommon for the mother to deny consuming alcohol while pregnant. When they do, there’s this stigma or this notion that women are lying about their alcohol use.”

Golding said this research, which was funded by a Medical Research Grant from the W.M. Keck Foundation and the NIH National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, reveals a potential blind spot in the current diagnostic criteria for FAS, the most severe form of Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder (FASD), which requires documentation of maternal alcohol use during pregnancy.

“Our research proves there’s a plausible alternative explanation – the father’s contribution, which has never been examined before,” he said. “In this study, we call into question the dismissal of the mother’s denial and really examine the capacity of male alcohol use to induce FAS growth defects.”

Golding explained that findings from his holistic approach that examines both parents’ contributions to FAS reveal the need for two critical changes.

“First is the recognition of the importance of male health in pregnancy outcomes and fetal health,” he said.

Golding pointed out that paternal health before conception is a novel consideration in terms of pregnancy outcomes and fetal health; as a result, raising awareness of the role a father’s health plays in his offspring’s health is just as important as awareness of the mother’s contributions from preconception and through gestation.

“Research examining fetal health is overwhelmingly focused on maternal health,” he said. “I’m not saying that this is not appropriate; I’m just saying it’s not the complete picture and we need some balance.

“The second,” he said, “is the fact that both parents are responsible for preventing alcohol-related birth defects.”

FAS has significant, life-changing consequences for children.

Because their study identified FAS-related craniofacial differences in offspring born to fathers who regularly consumed alcohol at or more than the legal limit, Golding pointed out that both parents should commit to limiting or omitting their alcohol consumption before trying to become pregnant.

Ultimately, Golding emphasizes that the first step in this process is expanding messaging outreach about the reproductive dangers of alcohol use to both parents.

“Change the alcohol warning label to remove the maternal emphasis and put it on both parents to say, ‘The decision to consume this beverage can have significant, life-changing consequences to a future child,’” he said. “Right now, the warning label only conveys part of the story. We must get that message out into the world as quickly as possible.”
 
“Change the alcohol warning label to remove the maternal emphasis and put it on both parents to say, ‘The decision to consume this beverage can have significant, life-changing consequences to a future child,’” he said. “Right now, the warning label only conveys part of the story. We must get that message out into the world as quickly as possible.”
and do the same for all other similar warnings: for example, smoking
 
I don’t understand how the interest of certain animals and scientific disciplines makes one a “tomboy” or more “boyish”. Animals of all species and science in general are fucking awesome. I hate how femininity is often equated to things that are seen as more puerile and maternal.
MW ME ME I LOVE BUGS I HAVE BUG PETS
ooooh what kind :0 I have some orchid mantises atm. Love my girls. <3
 
I don’t understand how the interest of certain animals and scientific disciplines makes one a “tomboy” or more “boyish”. Animals of all species and science in general are fucking awesome. I hate how femininity is often equated to things that are seen as more puerile and maternal.

ooooh what kind :0 I have some orchid mantises atm. Love my girls. <3
You have orchid mantises?! That is based. I have a friend that wants one badly, I know next to nothing about them though.
I have tarantulas!
 
You have orchid mantises?! That is based. I have a friend that wants one badly, I know next to nothing about them though.
I have tarantulas!
Yep! I’ve been keeping orchid mantises for the past decade. They’re surprisingly easy to take care of, plus they’re incredibly fascinating and have great personalities.

I love tarantulas…they’re so floofy and docile (for the most part). If my partner didn’t have terrible arachnophobia I’d be collecting them like Pokémon lol.
 
Yep! I’ve been keeping orchid mantises for the past decade. They’re surprisingly easy to take care of, plus they’re incredibly fascinating and have great personalities.

I love tarantulas…they’re so floofy and docile (for the most part). If my partner didn’t have terrible arachnophobia I’d be collecting them like Pokémon lol.
What are the personalities of the ones you have?
Yeah I had a tarantula once that was more cat than spider. He was a goofball. I caught him redecorating his tank multiple times cuz he didn't like where I put some of the fake plants at. The nerve!
 
What are the personalities of the ones you have?
Yeah I had a tarantula once that was more cat than spider. He was a goofball. I caught him redecorating his tank multiple times cuz he didn't like where I put some of the fake plants at. The nerve!
Two of the mantises are very friendly, one of them will run up to the enclosure wall and greet me, the other loves eating out of my hand and combing through my hair lol. The third one is kind of a bitch but her feistiness makes her endearing. She’ll raise her arms in the air and start dancing.

lol it’s always amusing to hear about animals tearing their environments apart attempting to redecorate. I swear every animal has those individuals that have a knack for art.
 
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And if men want women like the woman who raised you then humanity needs to die out.

Butt biscuit, I'd slap your mother myself for raising you with the audacity to look like that and think your opinions mean anything.
 
I don’t understand how the interest of certain animals and scientific disciplines makes one a “tomboy” or more “boyish”.
Yeah not only this but that calling it “boyish“ only reinforces its “boyish“ Status lol.. theres nothing inherently boyish about it. If there were, we wouldn’t be interested in these things as women in the first place, but we are; there are plenty little girls that find bugs and animals cool (I know I did), and like other posters have said before, there are plenty of women that work in biology related fields, zoos, animal Sanctuaries, etc…

I feel that calling such interest “gender non conforming” just ends up reinforcing the idea that all interests are tied to gender. Maybe thinking bugs are fascinating is just a human trait, not male or female.
 
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And if men want women like the woman who raised you then humanity needs to die out.

Butt biscuit, I'd slap your mother myself for raising you with the audacity to look like that and think your opinions mean anything.
and let's be real, that isn't just lip gloss [and 2 dangly earrings] -- it is TINTED lip gloss.
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Two of the mantises are very friendly, one of them will run up to the enclosure wall and greet me, the other loves eating out of my hand and combing through my hair lol. The third one is kind of a bitch but her feistiness makes her endearing. She’ll raise her arms in the air and start dancing.
That is too cute lol
 
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