Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

- He's 49, so.... he's 50. He's 50, late middle age, with no wife or child on the scene. Christ. No man is in their prime at 50, unless it's Amazon Prime and they are ordering their haemorrhoid cream and comfy slippers.
Given he's ex-mil, highly suspect there's an ex wife and some older kids he doesn't bother with in the background, but he doesn't think they are important enough to tell you about. A proud and involved father is never reticent about his role as a father.
- "No single mothers" This dude is no Golddigger-era Kanye taking out all the kids to eat as a flex. He has no intention of living any family life. This is also a big fucking clue that he can't afford it. Plus, he expects to be your top priority. A guy who already has kids understands a man is never a normal mother's top priority.
- Demanding of time and attention "drinks within three messages". Yes, psychologically stable women are absolutely keen to meet a roided up former soldier in person, alone, immediately that they see one photo of him. But he's not looking for psychologically stable. He's looking for a sex worker he doesn't need to pay.
- "32 - 45" Yep, we can check the box for insisting on significantly younger women. Easier to control, as we all know. Also moids remain convinced a younger partner is a sign of status. So, we can add status-fixated to the rest of his characteristics.
You did a great job here. As one of the resident KFMHT den mothers/cat ladies/eggless undesirable over-educated hyper-liberal olds, I want to offer a piece of advice for younger women who are in the dating scene about men like this, who are prevalent:

Most women who intend to have children will very likely have them by their mid-30s. After that, it's possible to have kids, but it's increasingly more difficult and expensive, especially when fertility treatments are involved. It's not just women who have trouble conceiving - a man in his late 30s will start to have trouble with testosterone, low sperm count, and performance. These problems will continue into his 40s and 50s. These are also not impossible issues to solve, but too many men will blame women for an inability to conceive when a good amount of the fault is with them. (I'm also not sure if fertility specialists are honest with these men or try to spare their feelings.)

There are, of course, a ton of red flags with this particular guy, but with any man, whether or not you want children - or want to be a stepmom to his kids - needs to be a priority when you are dating. If he already has an ex and kids, you're going to have her and the kids to contend with, and not everyone may be okay with you as a stepmom. If he doesn't have kids of his own, he's going to want you to bear them. It doesn't matter what he says - moids change their mind on this issue all the time, even after they tell you they don't want children. It's something you have to prepare yourself for and be completely honest about. He may try to talk you into having kids even though you said from the beginning you didn't want them; moids think they can break you down on this issue.

If you want children, unfortunately, you need to find a father sooner rather than later. You also need to be savvy about it: what are his risk factors? Is he psychologically and professionally stable? Will he make a good father to your kids and a good husband for you? Will he share the labor of the household and the family with you? If you're okay with being susy homemaker and having all that responsibility on your own, that's fine, but say goodbye to any free time or hobbies you might want on your own. You're going to devote your most healthy years to your husband and children. Love isn't enough. I wish I had the romantic view of "couples grow together!" but that has not been my experience. I've seen too many men who were promising devolve into untreated mental illness, substance abuse, and addiction. This includes professional men.
 
Fine advice.
Most women who intend to have children will very likely have them by their mid-30s. After that, it's possible to have kids, but it's increasingly more difficult and expensive, especially when fertility treatments are involved.
@Otterly usually pops up to do the Lord's work about the facts of female fertility when the weird "no babies after 30" trope gets rolled out. If you have proven fertility (i.e. kidlets) by your mid thirties, you will remain pretty fertile up and through the perimenopause. (Make contraceptive arrangements based on that knowledge.) Women all around you have that suspiciously late baby for a good reason: the female reproductive system often gives a last hurrah in the mid to late forties before it goes gently into that good night. Don't worry about completing a family by mid-30s, but if having kids is vitally important to you, do try to get started by then. Once you get started, usually the rest follow pretty easily. Secondary infertility is not that common.
a man in his late 30s will start to have trouble with testosterone, low sperm count, and performance. These problems will continue into his 40s and 50s. These are also not impossible issues to solve
They are often very, very difficult to solve. Particularly low quality sperm, broken tails etc. The answer to his swimmers not swimming is often, for his female partner, a course of difficult and painful IVF. The physical burden of fertility treatment is borne entirely by the female partner. And IVF is not suitable for every woman.
Your mileage on a limp dick may vary, but be warned that impotence is pretty psychologically hard on a moid and you are likely to catch the blame or at least the edge of his temper about the limpness of his dick.
with any man, whether or not you want children - or want to be a stepmom to his kids - needs to be a priority when you are dating
It's The Question. You need an honest answer, and one you can live with. At least, you need as honest an answer as he is capable of giving you. See below. Moids are really, really bad at understanding what they want and meaningfully planning for their future.
not everyone may be okay with you as a stepmom
Pro tip: if the first wife had kids with him, she's always going to be around. Even if she is royally sick of his bullshit, kids are a tie that can never be severed. Some people have wonderful step relationships, and others... well, stepmothers in particular tend to be a lot more honest when they think they are anonymous. Parenting another woman's children is not for the faint hearted.
If he doesn't have kids of his own, he's going to want you to bear them. It doesn't matter what he says
They get to an age when they start to have thoughts about Legacy and The Value Of Family. This age is coincidentally the exact same age they finally swallow the blackpill over The Value of Their Fat Belly and Limp Dick. Once they can no longer convince themselves you are easily replaceable or upgradeable, they will lock you in as fast as possible. All moids, nice or nasty, know the most effective shackle for their woman appliance is a baby or two.
moids change their mind on this issue all the time, even after they tell you they don't want children.
I have a pleasant husband who was very keen, in fact quite desperate, to have children. After the second one, he got wise to the fact they were kind of cramping his lifestyle and started making loud noises about a vasectomy. He did not bother to get one, even though I have medical issues with reliable contraception. He was not at all keen on number three once they were on their way. This time he said he would actually book the vasectomy. He did not, gentle reader. Instead he continued to literally fuck around and find out, was astonished and enraged when his proven broodmare got knocked up again, and when we found out number four was actually going to be numbers four and five, went all in on trying to convince me to get an abortion.
Never be surprised by a sudden Damascene conversion on the joys of fatherhood, in either direction.
If you want children, unfortunately, you need to find a father sooner rather than later.
If you want children, you are never shopping for a husband, you are always in the market for a father. Take your eye off that and you are potentially inflicting a deadbeat on your children, as well as yourself. You get to walk away from an ex husband in a way your children will never be able to walk away from the shitty father you gave them.
You're going to devote your most healthy years to your husband and children.
You are also going to absolutely wreck not only your career prospects in the short term, but handicap them severely in the long term and mostly importantly, you are fucking your pension provision and savings up in a way that might not be recoverable. Your husband meanwhile continues to have his career prospects and pension savings entirely unharmed. This decision is going to cost you real money; for professional women, easily seven figures' worth of lifetime income. And the security that that brings.
I've seen too many men who were promising devolve into untreated mental illness, substance abuse, and addiction. This includes professional men.
The Nick Rekieta thread is right over there for the doubters. He's not an outlier. The male midlife crisis is a very real thing; they do not go gracefully into late middle age at all.
 
I don't think men realize the risk that meeting up with a total stranger poses for women.
Dating is a minefield - a first date should be somewhere public with a LOT of people around and also no alcohol at all. A cafe is perfect. I would never ever meet a man I don’t know very well somewhere alone.
I dont think men do realise this. I can’t remember who it was but someone was asking if cooking at his would be a good date - he’d make the effort to get some nice ingredients and they could cook together. Yes it is a nice idea, but this is a ‘several dates down the line’ idea. To his credit, whoever asked (apologies I can’t remember) was aware of that and was very reasonable (and knew the girl so less risk.) so no criticism of him whatsoever but just that men dont have that risk calculation unless they’re into shady hookups.
Dating advice back last century was never meet anywhere that’s not public until you know someone well.

As for babies mid thirties - most women will be fine but don’t leave it to then to start. If you’re fertile you’ll be able to conceive right up to menopause (and a greater chance of twins…lol.) but if you’re not and you start at 35, you e got to try for a few years then investigations and all that. If you want kids have them twenties onwards, don’t wait (and if you don’t, and that’s fine too, you’re still able to get pregnant if you have periods at all.) the idea that fertility falls off a cliff at 35 seems to be based on some 1800s data for French peasants or something. Your chances lower but they’re still pretty good.
 
If you want kids have them twenties onwards, don’t wait (and if you don’t, and that’s fine too, you’re still able to get pregnant if you have periods at all.) the idea that fertility falls off a cliff at 35 seems to be based on some 1800s data for French peasants or something.
37 is the actual cliff slope based on modern data.

What incels don't really know about is that half the time a couple presents to a fertility clinic it's the man's fault because his sperm is straight up hot retarded.
 
They’re angry because they are incomplete without women and these women refuse to remedy that for them.
It's so fucking cringe and pathetic how much they talk about hating women yet they are Obsessed with us and would fuck any woman who gave them the opportunity. They are identical to their tranny brothers with this covetous hatred
 
The Nick Rekieta thread is right over there for the doubters. He's not an outlier. The male midlife crisis is a very real thing; they do not go gracefully into late middle age at all.
Rekieta is the ur-example of this. While his wife is nowhere near perfect, either, he’s one of those guys who sounded like a perfect catch: family wealth, a good education and income, a desire to be a dad. Now he looks like death warmed over, can’t stop drinking, and will probably be dead of a massive heart attack or an overdose within a few years. Or all the men in Stinkditch or Rat Kings that trooned out, then blamed their wives for asking for a divorce when all they wanted was to be pegged and called a sissy in bed and for the children to call them Mommy. Fucking nightmares - yet we’re the ones to blame.
 
why is the phrase "just the tip, I promise" a mainstream meme as if its a normal thing? Its nothing like a coomer meme, no. Its mainstream.
Yet the implication seems so rapey?? In what context is it appropriate? It sounds like a dude coaxing a girl into sex, as if she is unwilling or hesitant. Why does no one point that out.

When I talk about how straight men get away with being complete perverts and no one questions anything, I get told they don't. But they do. All the time. Yet as soon as someone whos into the same sex (especially if shes a woman) says half the shit straight men talk about openly. they get labeled as a predator or overall degenerate.

I don't hate straight men. I hate the double standards in society and the expectations placed on women. I hate how men are seen as superior and "cooler" than women to the point women would rather larp as femboys /TiMs than embrace their feminine sexuality, straight or not.
 
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This is unbelievable. She probably trained for months or years for this marathon and this fucker is putting the kids in front of the finish line instead of behind it so she had to chose if she wants to look like a bad mom or finish the race properly and get a good time.

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Another one for the shitty way mothers are treated in society. Not allowed to care about your personal achievements or enjoy your hobbies in peace because dad has to guilt-trip you for doing something that's just for you and wanting to finish your MARATHON before you hug your kids. He even pushed them to run towards her and then acted like what she did was fucked up.

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No you see, when (very insecure) men say they want a woman with hobbies what they actually mean is:

A) A woman whose hobbies ARE her children and family

B) A woman whose hobbies are HIM

C) A woman who has same hobbies as him, but she can't be better or excel more than him in them, so the man is able to feel cushy, be condescending and feel superior in that field as much as he wants. Even if she outperforms him, he will find a way to downplay her abilities and knowledge surrounding their shared hobby.
 
why is the phrase "just the tip, I promise" a mainstream meme as if its a normal thing? Its nothing like a coomer meme, no. Its mainstream.
Yet the implication seems so rapey?? In what context is it appropriate? It sounds like a dude coaxing a girl into sex, as if she is unwilling or hesitant. Why does no one point that out.

When I talk about how straight men get away with being complete perverts and no one questions anything, I get told they don't. But they do. All the time. Yet as soon as someone whos into the same sex (especially if shes a woman) says half the shit straight men talk about openly. they get labeled as a predator or overall degenerate.
A lot of guys think that sexual misconduct is the funniest thing ever. Honestly, most of the time men don't consider pressuring a girl into having sex as a bad thing. In their eyes girls are always willing - you just have to "convince" her that that's what she wants - when a girl refuses then she is just a frigid bitch (and a bunch of other derogatory terms).
This behaviour is seen as normal by men, they never consider themselves predatory. The rapey memes and "jokes" reflect this perverted mentality. As you said men get away with being perverts all the time, but if anyone criticizes their shitty behaviour they throw a tantrum.
 
Evergreen post about the virgin fake autistic nerd male meeting the Chad real autistic woman. Even if it is anons creative writing session, this is literally how "nerd" men are when encountering a woman who actually has a passion for something.
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Based femanon. Robots >>>>> moids every single day
 
Noooooooo, stalker feminists, it is you who is having the loneliness epidemic. Enjoy your cats!
Okie dokie
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>Nooooooo, stop enjoying the cats!
>Stop being happy at once child!

I was decided to check the woman he was shitting on, and as said she's Hasan's jannie and your very out-of-the-mill
"fucking whiteys amirite" Twitter libshit that's super larpy about the whole Israel-Palestine war and gets in spats because of her
anti-white sentiment despite being half-white.
Imagine: one of your parents flee their war-torn home and are welcomed in to a foreign country, thanks to this they build a new life. Your mother or father even find enough acceptance there that they marry a man or woman of the host nation. They raise a family, help you through school and give you opportunities that probably would not have been possible in your parent's home country, assuming they even would have survived.

You then decide to make an entire identity and career out of shitting all over the country that welcomed your family and made your life possible. What kind of a person acts like this?
• She is half-Lebanese
*sigh*
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Moids on KF: boo hoo muh male loneliness I haven't gotten a compliment or heard a kind word in so long boo hoo why does no one care
Also moids on KF: HAHAHAHA LOOK AT THIS THREAD FOR FEMALES TO SAY NICE THINGS TO EACH OTHER HAHAHA FAT HAHA CAT LADIES HAHA GAY LOL LMAO

We literally cannot have nice things.
 
Moids on KF: boo hoo muh male loneliness I haven't gotten a compliment or heard a kind word in so long boo hoo why does no one care
Also moids on KF: HAHAHAHA LOOK AT THIS THREAD FOR FEMALES TO SAY NICE THINGS TO EACH OTHER HAHAHA FAT HAHA CAT LADIES HAHA GAY LOL LMAO

We literally cannot have nice things.
It really sucks. I want it to get the DMZ tag like this one has, because otherwise the moids won’t get the clue. A thread about women helping each other out and fostering positivity shouldn’t be controversial, but apparently it is. Truly, these moids are becoming indistinguishable from troons in them thinking a space not about them is offensive.
 
It really sucks. I want it to get the DMZ tag like this one has, because otherwise the moids won’t get the clue. A thread about women helping each other out and fostering positivity shouldn’t be controversial, but apparently it is. Truly, these moids are becoming indistinguishable from troons in them thinking a space not about them is offensive.
use the report button i finally posted in the ask null thread in here and he said slap the report button. Just slap it on every single one of them. I just hope they eat permabans from the offtopic zone . Half of them I recognize them for shitting up other threads.
 
Confession: I don’t actually hate all men. I have really great men in my life, which is why I have such a visceral reaction to awful men. Awful men are a blight, and things like giving women their own space is a foreign concept to them. I’m old enough now to realize that I don’t have to give these awful men my attention. I’m thankful my parents instilled in me ways of how to find great men, specifically one to marry. Don’t settle for a guy that does the bare minimum. Go for the guy that will go the extra mile for you, and do things he doesn’t have to do, but does anyway because he loves you. Anything less, and you’ll be miserable.
 
I always used to unmatch with scrotes who asked me for drinks on the FIRST date. Like skip past the meal, just drinks. How presumptuous can you be to think that you, as a stranger, get to ply me with alcohol and lower my inhibitions before I've even had a chance to learn the most basic details about you? These guys are so uncouth and undersocialized, they can't even get through a date without the woman being tipsy and vulnerable. At worst they're predators, and at best they're thoughtless, having no concern or empathy for the female experience. So gross and such a turn off.
=_= they get worse than that, I met one who wanted to skip the dinner and the drinks and offered to buy me a snack from 7-11 before the fuckery commenced. I took the train straight back home because if I wanted to get fucked for a hotdog and soda, I'd go to a Yankee game.
LOL tell us you have no real value without telling us you have no real value. This is your selling point? This is how you try to convince us that men are still needed? That you're a deterrent?

If I was a member of the increasingly irrelevant, defective y chromo gender, my selling pitch would be totally different. I'd emphasize what I can provide to women that benefits them in the dating market. Things like companionship, emotional support, stability, being a good father to her children, hell even giving her good dick. But you guys don't really value the consumer enough to see things from their perspective, do you?

Instead you scrotes "offer" a service with the implication that if I don't accept it, violence will happen to me. Ew. And you advertise shit I can get elsewhere! If I want a deterrent, I can get a dog and train it. I can practice good street smarts. I can walk with friends, or take safe vetted transportation. I have options that don't come with the baggage of some scrote wanting access to my body for just existing next to me while bringing nothing else to the table (not to mention that scrote is statistically the most likely person to abuse or kill me)
lmao they don't get it but it's like they're demanding sex for protection. "Pretty face you got there, you need a man like me to protect you lest one of those *other* men bashed it to bits."
37 is the actual cliff slope based on modern data.

What incels don't really know about is that half the time a couple presents to a fertility clinic it's the man's fault because his sperm is straight up hot retarded.
Ssssh you can’t say THAT or they will freak out and beat you to death for being barren. Best thing to do is pretend it’s your dumb barren wife’s fault and then Dr soandso will covertly select a sperm sample from a donor who looks close enough to your husband and Mr. Slow Phelps doesn’t ask too many goddamn questions.
If people take anything from this thread please fucking god realise they are never thoughtless. Ok
I want to give them the benefit of the doubt but we must not.
It really sucks. I want it to get the DMZ tag like this one has, because otherwise the moids won’t get the clue. A thread about women helping each other out and fostering positivity shouldn’t be controversial, but apparently it is. Truly, these moids are becoming indistinguishable from troons in them thinking a space not about them is offensive.
Fellas, is it gay to be nice to each other? (Apparently yes).
 
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