Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[Thé au lait]

If you mean the guy in the original pic (Lou Diamond Phillips, from wiki bc I'm lazy):

I figured Lou was from how you talked about him, but the thought was in my head with relation to Kimura. Both me and my girlfriend grew up watching his movies, so we're both fans of him and his daughters (both of them are successful musicians who work together)
Also your entire post is interesting to me, I feel like I'm learning a bunch lol

I mean the idea manual labor is for men and women shouldnt have to do so is an old one

I always grew up being expected to help with/do my share of the fieldwork, same went for my grandmother, so I'll hazard a guess that this is either a regional idea or specific to non-rural families

 

[Thé au lait]

Norway, 2019 but keep in mind we are in middle of nowhere so houses are cheaper.

The fact that this still exists in Norway is beautiful! Where I am, rural areas are usually just as expensive, or even worse because city people think it's their "getaway retreat", so it's reassuring (and a little surprising) to learn that it's not like this everywhere lol

 

[Gaussiana]

The more I live, the more I think the idiom "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" just doesn't ring true. In reality, it's more like hell hath no fury like a man scorned by a woman.

I was thinking about how the most dangerous time for a woman in an abusive relationship is when she tries to leave or shortly after leaving. When a moid thinks he has control over a woman but she leaves, tries to leave or hints at leaving, his brain just breaks from the perceived rejection and humiliation. And that woman and any children that they may have will now be in immediate, life threatening danger as a result.

People can meme online about nightmare BPD women, narcissistic life ruining gold diggers, jealous girlfriends and whatnot but IMO, murderous male tardrage is a thousand times more hellish and evil. Also more calculated than they may want you to think (crime of passion my ass).

 

[soft breathing]

"Women don't smell like sweat because they have lives on easy mode, not because they make time to shower after work." - moid in denial he likes the smell of sweaty male pheromones

lol why are so many men insecure about their manhood?

I sometimes unironically think that my dad was/is a closeted homo-/bisexual.
So much of his weird-ass "I am a man, not a woman, men have to be manly" behaviours would just make a lot more sense, I guess.

This is the second time I've ever worded these thoughts that have been gnawing on the back of my head ever since I was a teenager. Feels kinda freeing to just rant it out into the aether.

Spoiler: PL/TMI

Just a few examples:

If you're a straight male, you don't have to convince everyone around you how straight & manly you are, how disgusting homosexuals are and how they destroyed your country (what?).

You don't just make out with some other man when you're drunk (in front of your wife and kid..) if you're straight.

You also don't threaten your wife with violence and beatings when she brings it up the next day because she's confused as fuck. (They were screaming at each other so loudly, I had to hear it all) Ironically, my dad was always super jealous. My mum was basically not allowed to talk to male strangers or have close male friends. Go figure.

You also don't bend over backwards for one of your male work colleagues, do everything for him while neglecting your family for 2 years, until your colleague just drops you like a hot potato. My mom was on the brink of divorce back then; sometimes I think it would've been for the best if she just left & took me with her.

It's just weird. Maybe it's just 'normal alpha male' behaviour. I fucking don't know.

 

[Steam Deck Verified]

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Any man whining about the "muh top 20% of men get all the swipes" should realize that swiping on even 20% of profiles in your stack is being pretty generous, considering the wealth of abominable male profiles. Blank profiles, or threadbare, or having the worst photos ever taken in human history, outdated photos or with their freshly exed gfs, "Actually 45 not 29, the app won't let me change it," hiding a marriage, 50k in unpaid child support or a DV arrest, poly/ENM, kink chaser, pit bulls, manosphere, etc. and that's even before taking into account whether they're fat, bald/ing, neckbeard, boring as hell, 4'11", or clearly using photos from 15 years ago.

Does make me smile with pride that men tried for YEARS to pressure women into "aiming lower," "stop being picky," "you're seeing the men who are your equals," and so on to try to get them to match with terrible men, and instead of doing that, women just left the apps en masse and cratered online dating's stock value. Which is exactly what they deserve, given their enshittification (especially Bumble's recent retarded antics) but it blows my mind that anyone thinks a nerdy IT guy makes a better partner by virtue of not being Chad when AWDTSG pages are filled to the brim with ugly, fat, old, broke, short, whatever men who were in committed relationships yet still cheated and hurt their partners.

 

[Big Miss Steak]

You don't just make out with some other man when you're drunk (in front of your wife and kid..) if you're straight.

Your father is a closeted homosexual. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I say this without mockery or malice, as there are many such cases, and your dad being a faggot doesn't mean he didn't love you (if indeed you had a loving relationship with your father).

 

[Kermit the Impaler]

lol why are so many men insecure about their manhood?

The Precarious Manhood Hypothesis
The precarious manhood hypothesis proposes that manhood must be earned and achieved through socially prescribed acts and behaviors. Once achieved, manhood can be lost if a man fails to publicly display the behaviors or hold the statuses that affirm he is a “real man.” This constant pressure to prove one’s manhood can lead to anxiety and a need to compensate through displays of physical aggression or other forms of masculinity.

At least, that is what a special issue of the Psychology of Men and Masculinity is proposing. Presenting the results of a recent forum, the issue describes some of the issues associated with being masculine in today’s society. In the lead article by Joseph Vandello and Jennifer Bosson of the University of South Florida, manhood is describes as a fragile state that needs to be earned and which can be easily lost or taken away. More controversially, they also suggest that a similar situation doesn’t exist for women since womanhood is “typically viewed as a status that follows naturally from biological changes and that, once earned, remains secure.”

the need to “prove” manhood seems to focus on what Vandello and Bosson call the antifemininity mandate. In other words, proving your manhood means demonstrating that you are as unfeminine as possible. And the programming for that goes deep with boys caught playing with dolls or otherwise engaging in “girly” play being actively discouraged, if not punished. Boys are forced to develop a sense of shame over any kind of feminine behaviour, and anyone even suspected of feminine behaviour face far harsher punishment than girls showing “tomboy” qualities. By the time boys reach adulthood, they are largely expected to give up any trace of their feminine behaviour and become “real men”.

 

[Mayhem]

This is essentially toxic masculinity, which radical feminists have been theorizing about for close to 50 years. Part of the theory of feminism (particularly the "feminism is for everyone" liberal feminist) is that strict gender roles are harmful to everyone. For women, the harm comes from the belief that women are irrational, untrustworthy, and irresponsible, and therefore it is in society's best interest to deprive them of their rights. For men, it is the belief that men must shy away from all feminine behaviors such as showing emotions such as crying (even when happy), open love and affection, and anything deemed vulnerable. In order to be properly male, the theory goes, a man must abject anything feminine and internalize his feelings, which causes explosions of anger and resentment.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Moids have been gaslighting women into accepting relationships with them through language. I’ve been noticing a trend:

• Wanting a guy with a decent job = gold digger
• Wanting a guy that maintains his appearance and looks nice = superficial
• Wanting a guy that cares about your pleasure in bed = selfish
• Wanting a guy that will do chores and has an active parenting role = trying to feminize men
• Wanting a guy to pay for dinner on a date without the expectation of sex = grifter

These below bare minimum men try to shame women into being with them, because they’re aware better options are out there. The women that give in to this often end up miserable and unfulfilled. A guy that shames you for wanting someone that can provide for you and a future family isn’t worth dating.

 

[soft breathing]

Your father is a closeted homosexual. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I say this without mockery or malice, as there are many such cases, and your dad being a faggot doesn't mean he didn't love you (if indeed you had a loving relationship with your father).

Honestly, it's not even bad new per se, it really explains a ton of 'weird' behaviours he's had towards me and my mother throughout my (early) life. We've never had a loving relationship; my dad always made sure to let me know how much of a burden I was to him, how much effort & money he (apparently) put into me, only for me to not turn out the way he wanted me to. Whatever it was, that he wanted me to turn into, I have no fucking clue. Yeah, my childhood/youth was fun - there's a reason why I've moved out at barely 18.

Sorry if this is derailing the thread a little bit too much. But pondering about all of this just makes me recoil at all the 'alpha guy' people talking about "a girl needs her father present in her life, fatherless women are the worst" - yeah. If the dude's acting like a proper father, maybe. But having a (closeted gay) alpha male with anger issues as a dad probably does more harm than good.

 

[MongInTheMirror]

Honestly, it's not even bad new per se, it really explains a ton of 'weird' behaviours he's had towards me and my mother throughout my (early) life. We've never had a loving relationship; my dad always made sure to let me know how much of a burden I was to him, how much effort & money he (apparently) put into me, only for me to not turn out the way he wanted me to. Whatever it was, that he wanted me to turn into, I have no fucking clue. Yeah, my childhood/youth was fun - there's a reason why I've moved out at barely 18.

Sorry if this is derailing the thread a little bit too much. But pondering about all of this just makes me recoil at all the 'alpha guy' people talking about "a girl needs her father present in her life, fatherless women are the worst" - yeah. If the dude's acting like a proper father, maybe. But having a (closeted gay) alpha male with anger issues as a dad probably does more harm than good.

God, I'm so sorry that was your childhood. Your dad sounds like an absolute bellend so deep in the closet he's circumnavigating fucking Narnia.

My own dad is actually pretty great, obviously flawed but a generally solid father, so your last part really got me thinking because it's a line that's always bothered me for a couple of reasons.

For one, I think it goes without saying that the more stable, positive role model adults a child can have growing up, the better. Of course this includes dad - better to have a great dad than none, absolutely no questions there. But the calculations on 'terrible, abusive dad' vs 'no dad' are very different as you say. Then you are infinitely better off with a single mom: even if you assume that boys, for instance, need positive male role models, uncles/granddads/friends etc can absolutely fill this role if your dad's a shitbird.

Secondly, garbage-tier excuses for men love to complain about women with "daddy issues", when this is the only type of woman who would even contemplate fucking them voluntarily. They're literally kvetching like a bunch of geriatrics about the exact type of woman already primed to tolerate their bullshit.

When I was a little girl, I have a clear memory of being on a drive with my dad one day when he started talking about how I should always expect to be treated well by the men in my life; and to tell him immediately if a man ever laid a hand on me so he could "deal with him". Very classically male response of course, but I didn't register quite what he meant at the time and he genuinely hates woman-beaters with the fire of a thousand suns.

Women who actually do have stand-up dads, who grew up feeling protected and cherished by a father figure that actually provided for his family and went out of his way to help others??



You know what those women have, instead of daddy issues? Fucking standards. If you had a good dad, you actually know what a good man looks like and don't tend to accept pathetic excuses from incels for why they don't meet them. It just blows my mind to hear subpar wastes of a Y chromosome complain about the exact kind of thing they rely on to get laid at all.

Daddy issues are their only hope of companionship, if anything. They should be thanking their lucky stars for deadbeat fathers everywhere.

 

[isalaide]

When I was 12/13, these were my crushes:

This made me smile, because when I was 12, I was wildly in love with the other half of the John Taylor/Amanda de Cadenet marriage.

 

[JambledUpWords]

> any new thread that gets created in BP that doesn’t center moids
> moids REEEEE that it isn’t fair
> moids still don’t do anything except complain, despite thread making ability being pretty universal
> moids act like women are taking over
> moids REEEE that it’s ruining “site culture”

Rinse and repeat. For moids claiming they create everything, they sure are against actually creating more threads for themselves, and choose to complain.

 

[Marsh Rabbit]

> any new thread that gets created in BP that doesn’t center moids
> moids REEEEE that it isn’t fair
> moids still don’t do anything except complain, despite thread making ability being pretty universal
> moids act like women are taking over
> moids REEEE that it’s ruining “site culture”

Rinse and repeat. For moids claiming they create everything, they sure are against actually creating more threads for themselves, and choose to complain.

Every since the stinkditch was created, it feels like this has been constant. As long as I've been here, BP has always been the women board so I legitimately have no idea what they're talking about. It's like due to the trans stuff, people are coming here and complaining about how it's always been (woman focused). Very annoying.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Ever since the stinkditch was created, it feels like this has been constant. As long as I've been here, BP has always been the women board so I legitimately have no idea what they're talking about. It's like due to the trans stuff, people are coming here and complaining about how it's always been (woman focused). Very annoying.

The funniest thing is most of the well known BP posters I know joined pre 2020, but then you have all these 2020-present moids coming in and acting like they own the site they barely joined.

 

[isalaide]

The funniest thing is most of the well known BP posters I know joined pre 2020, but then you have all these 2020-present moids coming in and acting like they own the site they barely joined.

Moid entitlement, a tale as old as time.

Their poor behaviour shouldn't be repaid by female attention of any sort, negative or otherwise, though. Remember when you train a puppy, you do so by ignoring it when it behaves poorly. The puppy learns quickly that it has to be a good dog to get the reward of your attention.

Dogs are substantially more intelligent than moids, so it will take moids much longer to learn, but with patience and persistence you will succeed. The untrainables will continue to get themselves banned.

 

[Lidl Drip]

"ThErE aRe No WoMeN oN tHe InTeRnEt!!!!" screams the 50 year old incel who still thinks it's 2006 and that a gossip forum is a male safe space simply because it's on the Internet which women are obviously too dumb to access, except for all of the women he pays for nudes and all the women who polish mens balls ofc.

Men literally never cared about what is posted about in Beauty Parlor until we made fun of them. Now suddenly this place that has always existed is destroying the site and the women (actually fat trannies because no girlz on the Internet) are ruining the entire site by posting in their own board!!!

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

They shit themselves and they don't wash their ass.

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I found myself thinking about this post and I’ve had an epiphany. There’s only one woman on the planet that’ll clean a man’s soiled drawers and that’s his own mother.

This post is about mother fucking. In fact, Chris Chan had incontinence issues himself.

 

[Susanna]

This post is about mother fucking. In fact, Chris Chan had incontinence issues himself.

Oh, it’s worse than that. Chris isn’t incontinent, he’s lazy.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

This made me smile, because when I was 12, I was wildly in love with the other half of the John Taylor/Amanda de Cadenet marriage.

Oh, you were more sophisticated than I was at that age!

Spoiler: Embarrassing I still remember so much

When I was that age I wished death on Julie Friedman, whom Nick Rhodes had married (not really death, just remember writing on my notebook cover that it was a "dark day" lol). Yes, my favorite was the fey guy who always and still does wear makeup seemingly all the time. Very Warhol. [True fact, though: through my preteen/barely teen infatuation with them for a year or two, I learned about Andy Warhol, Roxy Music, all of pop art, and Voltaire*, which springboarded me into a lot of lit and art in general, and also resulted in my reading Candide in 9th grade and impressing my teachers when I did some report on Candide, Siddhartha, and Crime and Punishment. :-) Those were the days.... Fr, though, they might have been real or fake artsy types, but at least they dropped some real culture references.]

* and probably also a lot too much about sex, one-night stands, etc.

Objectively, though, John is probably the hottest, though Simon, when not piling on pounds or singing cringily sharp, is up there.

My two best friends when I was 13 and I divvied them up - I claimed Nick, one picked Roger/Simon, and one took John. Nobody liked Andy.

I saw them in 1983 (1984?) on the Seven & the Ragged Tiger tour (FORTY-ONE YEARS OLD GOD - my dad took me and my girlfriends, and left the arena during the concert bc it was loud and boys in makeup kind of unsettled him, and then I saw them again almost exactly 30 years later. That was neat. Weird to think of the time passed, but neat.

Look at me, it's 1983 again!

My mania passed before 10th grade and I moved on to edgier and more sophisticated and of course broodier artists, but those 81-84 years were gold.

Bonus & threadtax: Like WINE:



Lol I just saw he made this^ his X profile pic. Sense of humor is nice.