It’s actually a scientifically proven fact that women have a “sixth sense” about genetic dead ends. A while back, someone posted a book on abuse by Lundy and it points out that a woman’s intuition that the abuse is going to escalate to is the number one objective indicator that abuse will turn violent. This is more reliable than any other measurable factor.
10,000 years of violent moids have allowed women to sniff out entitled, abusive males with remarkable efficiency. If an incel is being rejected by every woman he propositions, he probably has violent, abusive, and/or entitled tendencies.
The incels actually know this. If you are familiar with their bullshit, they talk a lot about 'women's desire for social proof' which they then go on interpret as 'no one will go out with a moid unless other women look like they they will go out with the moid'.
They insist this is due to clout, and women not wanting to lose clout by agreeing to fuck some loser.
The phenomenon is real, but they have radically misidentified the driver.
The actual driver is
safety and reassurance. Women are checking out whether the moid has ok vibes with other women and therefore is probably OK to date. This is also the driver that underscores women recommending friends, brothers etc to their friends. Women socially certify moids as "this one is not believed to be terrifying".
The problem the incels have is that
they fail the vibe check with every woman, due to setting off all our intuition alarms. Therefore since no women agree to vouch even by social proximity for the incel creep, other women are not given that reassurance of "this one is not a known murderer", and they aren't comfortable taking that risk.
Women trust other women's intuition about male threats, because the women who didn't have often failed to live long enough to reproduce. Yes, often in reality we get it wrong. But generally because the moid was socially deceptive ("he seemed like such a nice guy, and then I got pregnant"). The obvious out and out creeps? We tend to finger them very quickly and accurately.
Both Lundy Bancroft and Gavin de Becker reinforce the importance of listening to, and acting upon, those instinctive feeling of discomfort or fear. De Becker writes that if you feel freaked out "for no reason", to remember that you don't need to rationalise that. He says that your brain, not necessarily consciously, has noticed something that has set off your threat alarm, and you need to listen to that. You might not realise what set it off, but you are always freaked out for a reason. Your brain recognises patterns.
The incels scream and shit themselves whenever they are advised to spend more time with female relatives and friends, because they don't understand the point, because they can't fuck those people. They do not understand we are advising them to obtain
social certification. A guy who has many female friends and acquaintances
happy and relaxed in his company projects to anyone seeing him socially: this moid is OK, women are not afraid of him. Particularly for the younger moids who are genuinely just awkward and could probably develop into normal men, that social certification would make all the difference to them.
But they scream and tell us we know nothing about how to attract women. Despite us telling them "this is literally what makes us feel more willing to accept overtures from moids".
"iTS nOt mY FAulT IM sHY" no, it isn't, and actually I married someone who was pretty painfully shy as a teenager, especially around 'the gurls'. BUT. Crucially he had appropriate social validation. He was not known to be a creep, because he didn't act like a creep. He went to appropriate social events at the correct frequency, even if he did mostly sit in a corner talking to lads. He was a socially known individual. We shared a wider social circle, which meant I had enough information on his social behaviour to know he wasn't a fucking known predator. And this is absolutely the sort of information that girls pass on the downlow to each other. Those 'rumours' are important because they are how we tip each other off about threats. None of that information attached to him. He knew how to behave acceptably in public. If he had spent all his time in his fucking bedroom seething, he would not have been a known enough quantity for me to feel OK alone in his company.
You need to not be a fucking creep. This is so basic that honestly, any moid who cannot master this bullshit does not deserve to reproduce.
Learn to act fucking normal and not be a creep and a retard. Smile. Be pleasant. No need to be too talkative beyond small light remarks unless the woman actually converses with you. Stand outside fucking arms' reach unless she moves in. Stop looming like a fucking rapist.
Why the fuck am I even commenting on this, this is the man hate thread, let them die alone.