Ongezellig Thread - One Dutch cartoon, endless autism

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A lot has happened over the last day, so I'll recap what's been going on.

Yesterday a Massadonie staff revealed that back in 2018-2019 when Maya's Conversation dropped, you can see there was a viewable email address on her phone and that sending an email to it would put you on a mailing list for Ongezellig lore in the form of diary entries written from Maya's perspective.
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At some point, there's a Discord link attachement to some personality test. It no longer works, but this seems to be it as was posted in a Zarty thread.
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Link to the test above: https://arfer.net/games/robot-test
I don't think these are canon anymore since Sam stated at some point Maya's Convo was no longer canon so these text dumps are likely also not canon if it was made well before 1+2.

The next and more important bit is that yesterday Massa dumped a whole document consisting of lore and small tidbits behind the characters and ideas he had for the show in commemoration of Maya's Birthday.
(Warning: Google Link, click with caution): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gHgqMcvsyQoNR6v6EfwnLezJkYHtLBjEe80frn4l7Hg/
From a Zarty Thread:
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It's all in Dutch, however some posters have took the liberty to try and translate all that was in the document to reveal what was left in zellig.
One that's just raw text: https://files.catbox.moe/iab0j2.txt
The other that's a straight rip off the Dutch document formatted in Google Translate English (will attach both below this post locally):
https://files.catbox.moe/m0ok2z.zip

It has some neat little tidbits here and there, however I think the biggest announcement is near the end of the doc:
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So yeah, it looks like it's triple over for 'lig...
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Why was it shilled so much on classic /qa/?
Some Dutch autist spammed it like all the other snca factions on /qa/ like frogs, anime, sneed and soyjaks.

Someone has kindly offered to translate Maya's mail diaries on the zelligwiki (because there is a wiki for a dead dutch tranime show, OKAY???):
Copy and paste of the whole logs here (take it with a grain of salt, of course):
mayamail #1
friday november 23rd

history today was about anne frank, i didn't like it but it gave me the idea to start a diary. writing down "alone and bored" every day gets boring quickly, so perhaps a weekly or monthly diary is better.

today the class came up with the brilliant idea to draw something together. must come up with a way out asap. pippi longstocking immediately refused because of her "faith"... can you be jealous of someone's stupidity?

that's all that happened today... now more than two months since my birthday. coco acts as if she didn't see anything, luckily, because she wouldn't have understood it anyways. can now never use the bulimia method again.

almost december... christmas is all about family so i will survive that, but the 16th falls on a weekend this year so she will probably take advantage of that - better be careful.

i don't know what else to write but this isn't important.
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mayamail #2
friday november 30th

today we continued with anne frank. what i've learnt = anne was a beta, not very attractive and completely cut off from the outside world. i thought, hey, this is relatable and i almost sympathized

but then

"oh and she was hitting on (TN: as in flirting, etc.) the boy she was hiding with"

even anne frank had more experience than me... if they start persecuting eurasians, i might still have a chance

furthermore, i didn't worry about drawing with the others because they didn't even ask me to participate. actually i should be happy about that, but i'm not

to distract myself i started thinking about having sex while hiding and now i feel even worse. and then i noticed that it's already december and now i just want to hibernate
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Mayamail #3
friday december 7th
wednesday was sinterklaas. only pippi longstocking and i did not participate in the class surprises (TN: during Sinterklaas it's tradition for classmates to open and exchange "klassensurprises" between each other). pippi STILL believes in sinterklaas and calls making surprises a sacrilege. when i explain that sinterklaas is a ruse she calls me a heretic and conspiracy theorist and that they said the same thing about the moon landing.
coco asked why i didn't participate in the surprises. i said i wasn't invited but apparently there were no invitations at all and everyone could come... she suggested sharing her surprise with me, but then we would both have 1 drumstick, so i said no.
in the evening we had to stage a "gifting evening" (TN: it refers to pakjesavond, the evening where Sinterklaas brings gifts to young children) to make pippi indulge in her illusions/happy. mom had asked in advance what kind of gifts i wanted, but all the things i really want are too embarrassing to let her buy them. so i asked for more kruidnoten (TN: probably the bag of food she has on her desk) so i can ration for the winter. according to my bmi i'm still underweight so it can't be that unhealthy. pippi now thinks that i have only been given kruidnoten because of my heresy and says that the Cabinet of the Jack of Spades will launch a new crusade to protect the true faith.
glad it's over, but i still don't know anything about the 16th...
i think it's the calm before the storm.
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mayamail #4
sunday december 9th

I KNEW IT, I KNEW IT FOR GOD'S SAKE

i had been anticipating it for days and tonight she came into my room (without knocking of course) (luckily i was just simming this time) [TN: I truly don't know what she was "simulating", maybe she was making her bed creak at night]. i remember roughly what she said:

"so, next sunday is my birthday, and i couldn't choose who to invite to my party, so i just invited the whole class. at our home. i already know that everyone is coming, but not if you are yet, even though you live here naturally, but everyone is participating, so, if you would also participate i would really appreciate it"

this is just blackmail and she knows exactly what she is doing.

I thought out three scenarios in my head:

i go
pros: coco is not angry
cons: standing alone in a corner all the time, fear, humiliation, shame, not knowing what to do and say and bothering everyone with my presence

i don't go
pros: i don't go
cons: coco is veeeeeeeeeery angry and if i stay in my room (where else should i go) i have to hear how much fun everyone is having without that boring girl

i can't go
pros: i don't go and coco is not angry
cons: ???

i have a week to figure out how to stop myself from going. normally i'd use the bulimia method, but since my birthday she will suspect any of the excuse I use as me trying to get out of it.

unless...

i do something so crazy that no one would ever believe i did it on purpose...
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mayamail #5
saturday december 15th
after i am done writing i jump down the stairs
i don't think they will believe now that i did it on purpose. i've thought about everything so that the damage will be minimal and the result will be maximum. what i have to pay particular attention to is that my injuries are not too big to go to the emergency room, but big enough that i don't have to go to the party.
first i make sure i have a good excuse for why i "fell" down the stairs, so i wear shoes with loose laces that i "trip over".
of course, i'm not just going to jump down the stairs and let gravity do the rest! i make a controlled, careful dive so that i absorb the impact as much as possible with my arms. this will protect my head and hopefully give me some convincing scrapes and bruises so they can't suspect me of faking it. i try to thump as hard as possible with each step so that it sounds much more serious than it is. once at the bottom of the stairs i make sure they find me in a painful looking position. i certainly shouldn't complain about a headache, so they don't think i have a concussion and call 112. it is mainly my arms and legs that "hurt", making it difficult for me to move and "unfortunately" having to stay in bed all weekend.
of course, i can't stay home tomorrow because i can't "rest" during a busy party, so i ask mom to take me to grandma and grandpa's so i can "recover" there. once there i can relax all day with my phone, unlimited spring rolls and above all NO PARTY :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
and if i stick around a little longer, i might not even have to go to school next week and i'll have vacation a week early!! i haven't been able to sleep all week because of the panic attacks so i deserved it imo.
it's now or never... ahah so much adrenaline! but i've been preparing for this all week and literally anything is better than going to that party!

i'll write up tomorrow how it went! if i can live to tell the tale, haha
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mayamail #6
sunday december 16th

this weekend i learnt that fantasizing about doing crazy things is much easier said than done

all week i was coming up with reasons to do it, but once i looked down all the reasons not to do it suddenly came up. i stood there for at least 5 minutes until i suddenly remembered what i should have thought of much earlier

what would coco think if i fell down the stairs?

and then i went back to my room

so tonight i've had to wait until she would finally invite me to join her. i had no energy left to come up with a plan so i just let it happen

last week i wrote this:

1. i go
pros: coco is not angry
cons: standing alone in a corner all the time, fear, humiliation, shame, not knowing what to do and say and bothering everyone with my presence
2. i don't go
pros: i don't go
cons: coco is veeeeeeeeeery angry and if i stay in my room (where else should i go) i have to hear how much fun everyone is having without that boring girl
3. i can't go
pros: i don't go and coco is not angry
cons: ???

deep down i hoped i was brave enough to go for option 1




it sounds very nice without that boring girl
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Mayamail #7
friday december 21st
christmas holidays are the worst holidays. when you finally have some free time, you are forced to celebrate a stupid party with a stupid family and stupid christmas music. new year's is even worse, drunken idiots who start making loud noises because the year changes digits. so instead of forgetting that you have to go to school, you have to spend half of the holiday stressing about even more nonsensical obligations.
pippi got in trouble for attacking santa claus at the mall. she called him an imperialist spy and shot him in the head while shouting "saint nicholas is great". it was with a nerf gun so he wasn't hurt of course but the child on his lap was crying very loudly.
coco was quite distant this week.
furthermore, i found at last a personality test that suits me. the results are quite depressing so it must be reliable. i saved it so that i can later compare whether i've made any progress or not.
Appendix: https://soyzellig.party/zellig/res/39502.html#q39534§
(TN: original link https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...1/525751024913350697/persoonlijkheidstest.png)
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Mayamail #8
thursday december 27th

hahaha maya you scrooge, how can you hate christmas? don't you like your fam-

*ding dong*

oh hey it's family

"Hi AlL!!!! oH wOw HoW bIg HaVe YoU gOtTeN!!!!"

"OwO cOCo YoU'rE a ReAl WoMaN nOw! HoW dOeS iT fEeL tO pLaY rUgBy At ThE iNtErNaTiOnAl LeVeL?!? oH aNd DiD yOu MaKe ThAt PaInTiNg ThErE yOuRsElF?!?! aNd YoU'rE aLsOoOoOoOo A mUsIcIaN!!!! wHaT a SuPeRtAlEnT!!! wE aRe AlL sO pRoUd Of YoU!!!"

"WoW MYmY i HeArD tHaT yOu ScOrEd A 10 fOr ThE nEtHeRlAnDs!!!! aNd ThAt YoU hAvE mAdE tHe WiNnInG gOaL fOr ThE kOrFbAlL cUp!!! AnD tHeN yOu StIlL dO sO mUcH vOlUnTeEr WoRk, AlL sCoUtS lOoK uP tO yOu VeRy MuCh! CaN yOu PlAy SoMe AcCoRdIoN fOr Us BeCaUsE yOu ArE aLrEaDy So GoOd aT iT UwU"

.......

"oh hi maya."

but seriously maya how can you hate on christmas hahahaha
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Mayamail #9

hey maya, remember when you thought the christmas holidays would be fun once the the public holidays were over? (TN: she's referring to the named holidays such as Christmas, etc.)
haha silly maya, if you don't come to school, school will come to you.
SO because school was closed and they couldn't use the music room, i was repeatedly treated to free rehearsals of coco's moronic band. i've always wanted to play an instrument but never did because the walls are too thin here. pippi would laugh at me and coco would try to help me all the time and i don't know which one is worse.
all four band members are in my class, but except for coco, i never remember their names. they make eurobeat folks because the guitarist really wanted to do something that no one has done before without thinking about whether it happens to sound good or not. i'm sure coco also realizes how bad the music is but she only joins in because they are her friends and she collects friends like they're stamps. is a friend still worth anything if you have so many? if i continue to avoid her, i can brag at christmas this year that i am the only one in the class who managed not to make friends with coco, which i think is much more impressive than hitting stuff with sticks.
the second worst moment was when i bumped into the bass player while going to the bathroom. i always listen by the walls before i go to see if the coast is clear, but she almost never says anything so i made a wrong guess. i opened my door and BOOM eye contact. greetings are my achilles' heel so i stood there like an idiot waiting for her to say hi first. she didn't and she just walked back into coco's room. rude bitch. she talks at least as little as i do, but somehow has friends and is in a band? do i look like i'm from chernobyl or something?
but the worst part was when they stayed over. i was still awake probably because of the eye contact incident so i had no choice. i would describe the night as being forced to listen to a five hour long live podcast by the most uninteresting presenters on the most unimportant topics. jesus christ friendship is overrated.

man...

if i had a band it'd be so much more fun...
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Mayamail #10

monday january 28th
uhhhh if things continue like this, my weekly book will soon become a yearbook
i should have known that i couldn't keep it up every week. i once tried to learn japanese, within three days i knew all the hiragana and katakana by heart and i was full of motivation. but then kanji came along and i've never had motivation for it ever since. but i have a test in exactly 6 hours and i had to do something to delay studying so here i am again
nothing has happened since the holidays ended. at most when mom said grandpa and grandma are looking for a store assistant and i almost had a heart attack. the fact that i don't have to go outside after school is the only thing that keeps me from cutting or something. and i don't think a cashier girl with the aura of an aborted blobfish is of any use to them
but did she seriously think i was suitable for that job? then she's even less informed than i thought. but i guess your own daughter doesn't really matter anymore if you've bought two substitutes to compensate
not that i have mommy issues or anything, as if i'm waiting for another snooper like coco. as long as they leave me alone i have no reason to cut. anyways i never really understood self-harmers, i tried it once after reading about it but it mostly hurt. maybe i'm just not miserable enough
BUT NOT FOR LONG, because in just over two weeks the third most depressing day of the year will come, right after september 21st and the day school starts again. and yippeeeee it falls on a school day this year. if i start cutting myself everyday from now on, i'll probably have lost enough blood to be able to convincingly skip school haha

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Mayamail #11

february 11
FUCK VALENTINE'S DAY
so every february our school holds a rose campaign (TN: they probably mean "school shop") where students can buy roses for each other that are then distributed on valentine
"hahahahha maya is jealous because she doesn't get roses"
you thought so bitch, i get one every year. not from a boy of course, but as a kind of consolation prize from coco because she gets about 10 roses every year and she probably felt sorry for me so she always buys me 1 too. also for pippi btw because otherwise she would get jealous lol
but the comfort rose is not the reason why valentine's day should be aborted from the calendar
yes, i know very well that this """"holiday"""" is just a fabrication of stores to sell nasty perfumes
bbbbuuut theeennn
wwwwwwhhhyyyy
DO I ALWAYS HOPE FOR MORE THAN 1 ROSE GVD
to avoid the inevitable disappointment i try to remind myself WHY i will never get more than 1 rose
and having to remind yourself for weeks
how boring and ugly you are
is so
terribly
tiring

hopefully everything will be back to normal after thursday
Mayamail #12

valentine's day

beloved week

i got a second rose today

it's torn to pieces in a trash bin somewhere

everything is worse now

i'll explain it to you later

first i have to try something out
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ash wednesday
well then long story short:
so i got that 2nd rose, i was completely full of adrenaline and all, but then it turned out that coco had bought 1 rose for the entire class because she didn't want to leave anyone out and that 2nd rose also came from her as a kind of double consolation rose. that was a bit of a disappointment sooooo i tore them both apart oops
well it's better to do things like that in your revenge fantasies than in front of the entire class.
so coco would cook for us that evening and i had locked myself in my room. but instead of beating me up or at least starving me she just brought the food upstairs and apologized for ruining MY valentine's day.
then i felt even more guilty and decided that if she doesn't want to punish me, i'll do it myself. so i left her food alone that night and went to sleep quite hungry.
the next day was another school day among people who now hate me even more than before, so i skipped breakfast too and didn't bring lunch. all day i had too much stomachache to realize that i was maya, so that was already a better day than usual. i only ate again at dinner, but actually only because we sit at the table together and it would be too noticeable, but i felt guilty again when i was full so i also had dinner alone all weekend. and since then i don't want to break my streak so i've been doing this for three weeks. i've already lost weight from 44 to 40 kilos, but i always wear baggy clothing so no one will look.
and no, i am NOT anorexic because that's for THOTS who get insecure when they see the billboards. what i do is called FASTING, because that's what people from brabant are supposed to do after carnival to atone for their sins (i just needed a head start). and normally carnival makes me feel like vomiting, but that's not possible if you don't have anything to vomit ;d
There has also been a fan effort into translating the lore document to be as accurate as possible using AI and help from natives (Google link, Click with caution): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zx35r-8BEMa_cepeVRYKhE13jstVUOe1WUauwEF9_qM

A Zaryan (A) has dumped a bunch of photos and some videos Massa had took in his paypig discord channel, according to him. There's nothing too groundbreaking in this dump from what I've seen; they're mostly photos of his cat, some outside shots, and a few photos that show the process of making one of the Deels. The poster never said when these were taken and specified that he's not 100% sure if they're all real locations where Massa is, but that he did post these in the pay channel apparently. They'll all be dumped below along with the link to download: https://files.catbox.moe/28n990.zip
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^There's a second video that's the same as above that I won't include since it's exactly the same
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Bonus
There was a thread a while back pointing out my post on Sam, and one poster brought up some more photos and videos of him in the flesh.

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There's more photos and videos to be found on the New Challenge Let's Play Facebook page.







There's a shit ton of photos, more than I was expecting, so I'll leave it as an attachement here and edit in some more choice picks.
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There's probably more in the Facebook page and when they repost other people's posts that include Sam that I could be missing, but that's about all I could find.
New Challenge Let's Play also has a twitter (A) though from what I've seen it seems equally as dead as their Facebook now.

EDIT: There were more videos on the 'Suzanna Ververda Huizing' Youtube channel.

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You asked a question, I gave you an answer soynigga.
Look, I don't know whether you are from Massadonië, /co/, sharty zarty or whatever other place related to this show, but you absolutely gotta take a good look at yourself man. Studio Massa was never a lolcow. He's always shown he doesn't give a shit what people say or do, and the chance is near 0 he will ever see this let alone let it control him in some way. And yet here you are, overtly and publicly obsessing and attempting to dox an innocent niche indie artist, just because he decided you're not getting more episodes of your show. Ongezellig is finished. It's a succesful short film. No, there won't be any more, he's told you 3 times now with 5 reasons: It took him 7 years, he's burned out, it's not profitable, he doesn't care for its audience (gee, I wouldn't either if this was my following), he wants to work on Dutch shit. No, you can't convince or control him otherwise. Contrary to most other threads where lolcows have actual reasons to be documented, the reasons you post here come down to obsessive selfishness and petty revenge. Even by Kiwifarms standards, this is by far the least necessary dox ever. Sam has done nothing wrong, except apparently choose for himself in the face of your unrealistic expectations. My advice to you is: Move on like a god damn normal person already, nothing about what you're doing will give you what you want, you're just making the show look EVEN worse. Go ahead, soy-quote me, do whatever you will to cope and delude yourself into me somehow being the obsessed one here just because I took the time to write out my opinion. But let it be stated for the record that to the common yt folk, Sam's choice is 100% understandable, and if you care more about Zellig than Sam, you urgently need a new hobby. I've lurked on this site for 6 years and this, THIS is what caused me to finally make an account to say god fucking damn, this is pathetic. This whole thread is, but especially you.
 
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Ain't reading all that, but I'm only archiving stuff about Sam for the sake of preservation just because of the history surrounding him and zellig. I don't consider him a lolcow and I doubt many others would either, I'm just preserving details about his life and what others have posted about him in the zarty or wherever else. I have nothing against him and I am not responsible for what other people do with this info.

EDIT: So as not to doublepost, Zarty posters made a reanimated collab of Deel 6.
Just Deel 6.
 
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There's finally some new drama for once on this dead show lol (that interestingly somewhat involves me and @LiquidKid).
It all started with this quotetweet from LidlArts (someone who worked with Massa on zellig)
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Which then prompt Foenkie (Massa's close friend/right hand guy) to make a few responses.
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He then started sperging out over people talking about how Massa had a lot of opportunities to get funding and justifies why he could not do it.
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He then addresses the fact he has retweeted NSFW art of the ongezellig girls in the past.
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TL;DR "Guys I'm NOT a Studio Massa account, so whatever I post you can't hold me accountable. And besides I retweet any and all zellig artwork of the girls, why are YOU focusing on the few nsfw arts I retweeted you obsessed faggot?"
More seething below:
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Next up we have an interesting tweet where Foenkie actually addresses @LiquidKid's post about the backer who charged back money and potentially costing Massa some bucks over their behavior.
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The response:
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TL;DR "No guys, the chargeback did NOT hurt Massa in the longrun. There was no financial problems, me and Apop are all good (because I said so okay?) and me liking porn once again did NOT ruin this show. So quit looking goy"

And that's where we're at now. Honestly this guy seems like a seething faggot who's mad his pal's animated show got attention at all, so I'll go ahead and copypaste all his socials some kind zaryan made here.
Known Aliases: Foenkie, darkiethehalo, darkshadowthehalo
Email: Darkshadowthehalo@gmail.com
Discord ID: 633016135281016854
YouTube #1: https://youtube.com/@darkshadowthehalo https://ghostarchive.org/archive/cvjT1
YouTube #2: https://youtube.com/@darkiethehalo1782 https://ghostarchive.org/archive/oHd2s
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/darkshadowthehalo https://ghostarchive.org/archive/MaylB
Twitch: https://m.twitch.tv/foenkie/home https://ghostarchive.org/archive/8r1sf
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/id/Darkshadowthehalo https://ghostarchive.org/archive/bVuuJ
Ongezellig Fandom Wiki profile: https://ongezellig.fandom.com/f/u/54084482 https://archive.ph/8CAkv
Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Darkshadowthehalo/ https://archive.ph/y1gBr
Github: https://github.com/DarkieTheHalo https://ghostarchive.org/archive/LbyDt
DeviantArt: https://www.deviantart.com/darkshadowthehalo https://ghostarchive.org/archive/iqBy2
Pinterest: https://nl.pinterest.com/darkiethehalo/_created/ https://ghostarchive.org/archive/dKX6V
Habbofever: https://www.habbofever.be/user/DarkieTheHalo https://ghostarchive.org/archive/8Dtgz
Betterttv: https://betterttv.com/users/616ac3b6ab77fcc02a107960 https://ghostarchive.org/archive/MRIxt
Freesound.org maybe: https://freesound.org/people/Darkshadowthehalo/ https://ghostarchive.org/archive/3myWG

His Skype says he's potentially from North Brabant in Breda
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Breached accounts:
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Looks like he might be a photographer for anime cosplays.
Instagram Photographing #1: https://ghostarchive.org/archive/tmHJX
Instagram Photographing #2: https://ghostarchive.org/archive/N0J24
Instagram Photographing #3: https://ghostarchive.org/archive/LPITV
Instagram Photographing #4: https://ghostarchive.org/archive/7e4c7
Instagram Photographing #5: https://ghostarchive.org/archive/0ZGov

More info can be found in the soyzellig thread here: https://soyzellig.party/zellig/res/50177.html
 
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Next up we have an interesting tweet where Foenkie actually addresses @LiquidKid's post about the backer who charged back money and potentially costing Massa some bucks over their behavior.
Not only is there copious evidence that every single thing is true( stuff like the chargeback receipts, or the emails, DMs, and even Foenkie’s former address from when he needed Sonic plushies mailed to him from the U.S., but it would dox people to do show all this) he’s adding in extra bullshit that wasn’t there to try and somehow be superior in things.

He’s such an insufferable douchebag to this when day.
Also, I love the earlier “you have to be Dutch to understand” cope. They’ve been going on about that for years. They’ve always been against the fact that there was an international crowd
 
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Also, I love the earlier “you have to be Dutch to understand” cope. They’ve been going on about that for years. They’ve always been against the fact that there was an international crowd
How many thousands of American tv shows have become massive hits in international markets (Russia for example was enamored with U.S. sitcoms like “Married with Children” to the point they made their own adaptation that had more episodes than the original series) Did those people “need to be American to understand”? I understand the point that there are always going to be cultural references or jokes that people in other countries don’t understand, but ‘zellig’s style and humor clearly resonated with a lot of people outside the Netherlands. To use the example of “Married with Children” again, a show that in large part was a satire of suburban American culture couldn’t be more fucking foreign to Russians that spend their entire lives in commie blocks, yet they loved the show anyways.
 
There's literally nothing stopping Studio Massa from pumping out shorts expanding on the characters and their le super relatable hijinks. The dutch cultural meme is a cope, creator burnt himself out before he could cash out and rationalized himself into not creating a patreon.

Ongezellig could have been a real cash cow but who gives a shit anymore. Rest in 4 pieces 6 parts.

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There's literally nothing stopping Studio Massa from pumping out shorts expanding on the characters and their le super relatable hijinks. The dutch cultural meme is a cope, creator burnt himself out before he could cash out and rationalized himself into not creating a patreon.

Ongezellig could have been a real cash cow but who gives a shit anymore. Rest in 4 pieces 6 parts.

Edit: spelling a shit
He also conveniently ignores that Maya’s Sweet 16 was a depressing comic void of any charm or humor and it didn’t sell well because nobody actually wants to read it.
The other Ongezellig comic, Maya in the bus attempting to flirt is also lacking. Sam did those things where he tried to make the simple silly not-anime girls cartoon have deep and heavy lore when literally all of his stuff succeeds from edgy comedy,
 
He also conveniently ignores that Maya’s Sweet 16 was a depressing comic void of any charm or humor and it didn’t sell well because nobody actually wants to read it.
The other Ongezellig comic, Maya in the bus attempting to flirt is also lacking. Sam did those things where he tried to make the simple silly not-anime girls cartoon have deep and heavy lore when literally all of his stuff succeeds from edgy comedy,
The whole spiel about how "it's a foreign comedy filled with foreign stereotypes that's meant to mock YOU for laughs chud!" from him and Foenkie feels like a cope for trolls remorse after being associated with having edgy 4cuck humor. First two Deels mention things like Hitler, Fritzl, incest and Mymy being a nationalist, but by the end of Deel 5-6 it sort of dials it back a bit that "erm actually, colonizers from the past were... LE BAD!!!" with that scene of Coco and the History Book. And by the time the lore doc dropped, you also have him saying, "actually guys, Mymy isn't a hecking evil FASCIST NAZI, she just hates Belgium and loves all races and trannies and genders equally!" I know those two comics came out before/during zellig's production, but I think the fact he stayed in his Trooncord server all these years and associates with progressive types, coupled with being an old man have contributed to him regretting making zellig as weird and chuddy as it did when he was younger, so now he's trying to backtrack as much as he can so as to not get canceled or whatever.
 
The whole spiel about how "it's a foreign comedy filled with foreign stereotypes that's meant to mock YOU for laughs chud!" from him and Foenkie feels like a cope for trolls remorse after being associated with having edgy 4cuck humor. First two Deels mention things like Hitler, Fritzl, incest and Mymy being a nationalist, but by the end of Deel 5-6 it sort of dials it back a bit that "erm actually, colonizers from the past were... LE BAD!!!" with that scene of Coco and the History Book. And by the time the lore doc dropped, you also have him saying, "actually guys, Mymy isn't a hecking evil FASCIST NAZI, she just hates Belgium and loves all races and trannies and genders equally!" I know those two comics came out before/during zellig's production, but I think the fact he stayed in his Trooncord server all these years and associates with progressive types, coupled with being an old man have contributed to him regretting making zellig as weird and chuddy as it did when he was younger, so now he's trying to backtrack as much as he can so as to not get canceled or whatever.
Sam also owns and proudly displayed a confederate flag for years because he “likes flags” and used to laugh about how super racist looney tunes esque depiction of black people didn’t get him canceled, Foenkie also used to go by “Darkie” before years of backlash finally made him change the name. Sam is just a major hypocrite who didn’t like his international attention because “Dutch supremacy”
 
Gonna bump again because of something mildly interesting.
A zaryan from soyzellig made a thread talking about how a character named Stephanie from this British show called 'Strange Hill High' bears a striking resemblance to Mymy.
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Now this would've quickly been written off as mere coincidence, if it weren't for the fact that Stephanie also gets involved with presidential elections in the school and wants to reach "peak fame", not too dissimilar to Mymy wanting Class Representation and being an egomaniac (not to mention both having similar personalities).
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There's also this nigger character named Mitchell who has a similar get up to Maya and even has ADD I think (I never watched the show so I can't confirm, I'm just going off what was said in the thread).
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Can someone who's actually watched both Strange Hill and zellig confirm whether Massa stole/borrowed a lot from this or not? Or if most of this is pure schizo speculation? (The show ran from 2013-2014 btw)
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This was supposed to come out months ago (like last August), but I’m a lazy faggot who does NOT effortpost often (can you tell?), so I’ve pretty much been procrastinating/putting this off for far, FAR too long. But finally I said fuck it, I’ll push this shit out so that it can stop being a burden in the backlog of my head.

Anyways, here is some info on Sam’s family:
WARNING: WORDSWORDSWORDS SNCA AHEAD
Liz Tollenaar

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I never mentioned this in my initial write-up on Sam (because I thought I would’ve finished this sooner), but if you check the “2 endorsements” on his LinkedIn under “Skills”, you will see two individuals listed there.
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If you recall from his Stripster interview, Sam said he had 2 brothers and a sister. I’m going to assume Liz is probably his sister and René is his father since the age in appearance is apparent.
This is Liz Tollenaar’s LinkedIn profile.
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LinkedIn profiles are notorious for being unable to archive without an account, so I’ll attach the text, the .PDFs, and images of their profile to view their credentials in full.
Keep in mind I’ve kinda done a shit job at previously organizing all my info for these people, so it might be a mess when it comes to compiling all that I have, so bear with me while I do my best here.
Liz Tollenaar

Taalcoach bij Weener XL
Nederland

Ervaring

Weener XL werk & inkomen 's-Hertogenbosch
Taalcoach
Juni 2024 - Present (2 maanden)

Hogeschool Tio
Toetsdeskundige & Coördinator Examenbureau
Januari 2022 - mei 2024 (2 jaar 5 maanden)
Utrecht, Nederland

Max Planck Institute for Psycholinguistics
3 jaar 1 maand
Onderzoeksassistent
Januari 2020 - januari 2022 (2 jaar 1 maand)
Als onderzoeksassistent ondersteun ik de onderzoekers van de afdeling Language Development Department. Mijn werkzaamheden zijn het testen van participanten (kinderen), het annoteren en transcriberen van data en het assisteren bij de implementatie van nieuwe onderzoeksprojecten. Verder help ik met de organisatie van outreach-projecten en het testen op locatie, bijv. op het Kletskoppen Kindertaalfestival.

Studentassistent
Januari 2019 - december 2019 (1 jaar)
Nijmegen en omgeving, Nederland
Language Development Department

RU:ts Student Linguistics Journal
Penningmeester
Oktober 2018 - september 2020 (2 jaar)
Nijmegen
RUT:s is een taalwetenschappelijk tijdschrift, gemaakt voor en door studenten. Als penningmeester was ik voornamelijk bezig met het beheren van de financiën, belastingaangiften doen en het verrichten van administratieve werkzaamheden.

Radboud University
Lid Opleidingscommissie Linguistics
Januari 2019 - augustus 2019 (8 maanden)
Nijmegen en omgeving, Nederland
De opleidingscommissie houdt zich bezig met het waarborgen en het verbeteren van de kwaliteit van de studie. De belangrijkste taken waar ik mij mee bezig hield waren het adviseren over de onderwijs- en examenregeling en het bewaken van de kwaliteit van de opleiding.

Kringloopwarenhuis Het Goed
3 jaar 10 maanden
PR Social Media
Augustus 2018 - augustus 2019 (1 jaar 1 maand)
Roermond, Provincie Limburg, Nederland

Algemeen medewerker
November 2015 - augustus 2018 (2 jaar 10 maanden)
Roermond

Cito
Stagiaire
April 2019 - juni 2019 (3 maanden)
Arnhem
Tijdens deze stage heb ik meegewerkt aan de herziening voor de alfabetiseringstoetsen voor volwassenen en tieners. Naast het maken van items heb ik me ook met andere aspecten van toetsontwikkeling beziggehouden, waaronder lay-out en marketing. Verder heb ik ook de data van het onderdeel Spreken van de Staatsexamens NT2 geanalyseerd voor mijn scriptie.

STEP Nijmegen
Stagiaire docent NT2
Augustus 2018 - april 2019 (9 maanden)
Nijmegen en omgeving, Nederland
Voor mijn docentcertificaat in mijn master heb ik stage gelopen als NT2-docent. Ik had mijn eigen klas en mijn studenten hadden het ERK-niveau A2.

Radboud University
2 jaar
Lid Opleidingscommissie Taalwetenschap

September 2016 - augustus 2018 (2 jaar)
Nijmegen en omgeving, Nederland

Studentassistent
Mei 2018 - juli 2018 (3 maanden)
Nijmegen en omgeving, Nederland
Deze baan was voor een project van de Nationale Politie en de Radboud Universiteit. Ik heb telefoongesprekken van het nationale alarmnummer getranscribeerd zodat ze konden worden gebruikt voor een onderzoek naar automatische spraakherkenning.

Onderzoeksstagiaire
Januari 2018 - april 2018 (4 maanden)
Nijmegen en omgeving, Nederland
Tijdens deze stage bij Marten van der Meulen (PhD) deed ik onderzoek naar de argumentatie van de uitspraak van het woord GIF. Ik hielp bij het bouwen en annoteren van een corpus van online verklaringen over het woord GIF van 2013 tot 2017.

In september 2018 presenteerden we het onderzoek op de Second International Conference on Sociolinguistics (ICS-2)

Commissaris Algemene Betrekkingen studievereniging InTenS
Oktober 2016 - oktober 2017 (1 jaar 1 maand)
Nijmegen en omgeving, Nederland

Radboud in'to Languages I Wageningen in'to Languages
Stagiair toetsing en NT2
September 2017 - december 2017 (4 maanden)
Nijmegen en omgeving, Nederland
Tijdens deze stage heb ik NT2-conversatielessen gegeven aan volwassenen (ERK-niveau A2). Daarnaast heb ik bijgedragen aan de ontwikkeling van de RATEr, een toets Academisch Engels voor studenten op de Radboud Universiteit.

Proteion Schoon B.V.
Huishoudster
Juni 2015 - december 2015 (7 maanden)
Roermond

GV Olympia Roermond
Junior Gymnastiek Assistent

September 2010 - september 2015 (5 jaar 1 maand)
Roermond

Opleiding

Radboud University
Master, Nederlands als Tweede Taal: Docent en Expert (2018 - 2020)

Radboud University
Taalkunde / Taalwetenschappen / General linguistics / Linguistics (2015 - 2018)

Vavo Gilde Opleidingen
Vwo, N&G (2014 - 2015)

Zuyd Hogeschool | Zuyd University of Applied Sciences
Tolk-vertaler / Vertaler-tolk (2013 - 2014)

Lyceum Schöndeln
Havo, N&G (2008 - 2013)
Experience:
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Education:
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Her “interests” in companies/groups/schools:
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Here is where she posted her activity on LinkedIn:
Posts (Sorry for messing up on the screenshotting, it won't be as bad going forward):
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All of her comments here too:
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She was looking for a job 2 (now 3) years back as a teacher it looks like.
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Only other interesting post is this of her going over linguistics; using “GIF” as an example (keep this in mind for later).
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I won’t go over her (or Sam’s other family's) reactions on the site since it’s pretty SNCA by that point, I’ll only go over posts and comments they made on LinkedIn.

Besides that, she was a student assistant who may or may not still be working at Baby & Child Research Center in the Netherlands based off these two Facebook posts from 2019. (And if not then at least her expertise shows she’s interested in child development career-wise.)
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Now onto Miscellaneous stuff.

Liz was featured in this blogpost from some guy named Joe McVeigh over the pronunciation of the word “GIF”. Remember when I said to keep the “GIF” thing in mind? This was what I meant.
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Going forward, I’m just gonna insert all of these posts into an AI and post the summary here because like hell am I going to read all this SNCA literal wordswordswords ‘plier blogposts over some failed artist’s extended family.
This blog post by Joe McVeigh reflects on presentations and discussions from the 2nd International Conference on Sociolinguistics (ICS-2). McVeigh highlights topics such as the use of all caps in marketing, the ongoing debate about the pronunciation of "GIF," and the role of mass media and social media in language use and change. He also touches on language options on Finnish municipal websites and communication challenges in English as a lingua franca Skype conversations. Finally, McVeigh raises concerns about the inappropriate use of a racial slur during presentations and the need for explicit anti-harassment policies at academic conferences.
She was a former Treasurer member of RU:ts of Radboud University; a quote “journal of linguistics made for and by students”.
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She was featured in this article by Marten van der Meulen over the pronunciation of “GIF” and help with transcribing.
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Summary:
This Cambridge Core excerpt presents a linguistic study on the online debate surrounding the pronunciation of the acronym GIF. The author, Marten van der Meulen, analyzes arguments used in online discussions after the format's creator stated his preferred pronunciation. The research examines the influence of authority, including the creator and figures like President Obama, and the types of linguistic arguments employed by users. Ultimately, the study finds a preference for one pronunciation despite the creator's suggestion, highlighting the dynamics of online prescriptivism and the evolution of usage items in the digital age.
She was mentioned in this .PDF titled “The effect of children’s prior knowledge and language abilities on their statistical learning”, only once for help with transcribing. I will attach the .PDF (and any other .PDFs) below. (div-class-title-the-effect-of-children-s-prior-knowledge-and-language-abilities-on-their-statistical-learning-div.pdf)
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Summary:
The study investigates how children's existing knowledge of language patterns (specifically, the frequency of syllable combinations in German) influences their ability to learn new sequences of syllables through statistical learning. It also explores the relationship between language proficiency and statistical learning abilities.
She has written a master’s thesis on examining the effect of English as an intermediate language on Dutch language acquisition by migrants. (Tollenaar, L. 4598148.pdf)
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She was mentioned in another .PDF study on statistical learning written by Katja Stärk, albeit credited the same for transcribing. (Thesis_KatjaStaerk.pdf)
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She is/was(?) a department member in two Research Reports from 2019-2020 and 2021-2022 from the Max Planck Institute for Psycholinguistics. (MPI_Jaarverslag_2021-2022_web.pdf / BiAnRep_2019_20_MPI_f_Psyl_.pdf)
From 2019-2020
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From 2021-2022
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Here’s Liz’s profile from RocketReach:
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Her potential emails: l.tollenaar@tio.nl, tollenaarl@tio.nl
There was this Prezi account with the same name, but I’m unsure if it’s actually owned by her or not. Either way, it’s archived.
There’s also this Instagram account (A) @magical_lizzard with her name in bio, but her pfp is too small to ascertain whether it’s her or not.

And that’s pretty much it for Liz. I couldn’t find any other contacts to her in my initial search, so if I missed anything, I apologize.

Next up:
René Tollenaar
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Sam has said both of his parents were adopted children in the 40 minute voice call, just thought I’d put that in as a small footnote before LinkedIn dumping.

LinkedIn Profile
René Tollenaar

Freelance Lead Auditor Zorg en Welzijn at Lloyd's Register & Kiwa Nederland ISO 9001 - HKZ - NEN 15224 - NEN 7510
Eindhoven, North Brabant, Netherlands

Contact

www.linkedin.com/in/rené-tollenaar-91333810 (LinkedIn)
www.t-learning.nl (Company)
www.t-ducatie.nl (Company)

Summary

Uitgebreide ervaring in de gezondheidszorg, als leidinggevende, interimmanager, adviseur en auditor.
Enthousiasme, gedrevenheid en doorzettingsvermogen zijn mijn kenmerken. Ik houd van initiërend optreden. Het bedenken van conceptuele oplossingen en de strategische evaluatie ervan, is mijn uitdaging. Nieuwe en moeilijke problemen prikkelen mij en daarbij komt mijn vindingrijkheid van pas. Ik ben analytisch ingesteld.
Het liefst opereer ik in een multidisciplinaire setting. Mijn kennis van en ervaring met kwaliteit- en veiligheidsystemen is gedegen. Ik onderhoud een groot netwerk. Engels en Duits beheers ik in woord en schrift.

Top Skills

Healthcare
Hospitals
Change Management

Experience

Kiwa Nederland
Freelance Lead Auditor Zorg en Welzijn
March 2021 - Present (3 years 5 months)
Netherlands

Lloyd's Register
Freelance Lead Auditor
April 2016 - Present (8 years 4 months)
ISO 9001:2016
ΜΕΝ 15224:2017
HKZ: algemeen organisatiedeel / dialysecentra / huisartsendienstenstructuren / jeugdzorg / kleine organisaties / patiëntveiligheid / kraamzorg

Languages

English (Professional Working)
German (Professional Working)

Telônès Beheer B.V.
Company Owner
January 2011 - Present (13 years 7 months)
Roermond

Certifications

ISO 27001 Lead Auditor - Information Security Certification
Certificate of Lean Competency - Lean Green Belt
Lead Auditor ISO 9001:2008

Diagnostiek voor U
Adviseur Kwaliteit & Veiligheid
March 2016 - September 2020 (4 years 7 months)

Trombosedienst Regio Eindhoven
Kwaliteitsmanager
February 2017 - February 2019 (2 years 1 month)
Eindhoven

NEN - HKZ
7 years 11 months

Lid Centraal College van Deskundigen voor de Zorg en Welzijn
May 2012 - April 2015 (3 years)
In dit college participeren vertegenwoordigers van de drie partijen: koepels van instellingen/beroepsbeoefenaren; de Nederlandse Patiënten/Consumenten Federatie en Zorgverzekeraars Nederlands. Als adviseurs treden op vertegenwoordigers van de Inspectie voor de Gezondheidszorg (IGZ) en van het Ministerie van VWS. De leden van het college zijn benoemd op basis van hun deskundigheid op het gebied van kwaliteitstoetsing.

Het HKZ Harmonisatiemodel is ontwikkeld onder auspiciën van het CCvD-Z/W. Het College bepaalt ook de samenstelling van de HKZ werkgroepen en stelt de certificatieschema's vast. Het CCvD-Z/W is erkend door de Raad voor Accreditatie.

Lid Raad van Advies
June 2007 - May 2012 (5 years)
Utrecht

De adviesraad adviseert het bestuur van de HKZ over het beleid, fungeert als klankbord en verbindt de de stichting HKZ met haar stakeholders.

azM Herstelzorg
Zorgmanager
September 2013 - August 2014 (1 year)

de Zorggroep
Leidinggevende
August 2012 - August 2013 (1 year 1 month)
Horst-Venray

De Zorggroep staat met een keur van zorgdiensten en vele woon- en zorgcentra klaar voor iedereen in Noord- en Midden-Limburg die zorg nodig heeft, van jong tot oud.

In de regio Horst-Venray geef ik leiding aan de behandelaren van het Expertise Behandel Centrum en de verpleegkundigen van het Ambulante Team.

RC de Bokkerijders
Secretary
September 2002 - January 2013 (10 years 5 months)
Rugbyclub de Bokkerijders uit Roermond.

De Bokkerijders onderscheidt zich van de overige Limburgse Rugbyverenigingen door een grote jeugdafdeling.

Traumacentrum Brabant
Lid ZIROP kennisplatform
September 2009 - May 2011 (1 year 9 months)
Tilburg

St. Anna Ziekenhuis
Afdelingshoofd SEH, Anio's & Gipskamer
July 2009 - May 2011 (1 year 11 months)

Laurentius Ziekenhuis
Afdelingsmanager dialyse
1990-2008 (18 years)

LVDT
Chairman
1995-2005 (10 years)

Education

NCOI Business School

Master of Business Administration (M.B.A.), Bedrijfskundig zorgmanagement (2004-2008)

NAZL - Crisis Control

Bachelor's Degree, Crisis/Emergency/Disaster Management (2014-2015)

Bureau Veritas

Quality management system (2014-2014)

Immo

Bedrijfskunde (2001-2002)

Hogeschool Sittard

Bachelor's Degree, Management (1989-1991)
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To make it easier and less cluttered, I decided to record myself scrolling through his profile last year just so it wouldn’t be one long or multiple images.
Here’s his experience:

Here’s his education:

^He has a shitload of .PDFs attached, which I assume are licenses and certificates for his job. They will all be attached in a .ZIP below (ReneLicenses.zip)
His skills along with his endorsements:


His Licenses & certifications:
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His Interests, Groups and Schools:
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He speaks English and German:
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This was his only post in his Activity section:
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All of his comments:
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His only reactions to posts:
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If you couldn’t tell, his expertise is in healthcare and management.
If you look on his .PDF or LinkedIn, he will have two websites listed: http://www.t-learning.nl/ and http://www.t-ducatie.nl/. t-ducatie.nl appears to be broke, and looking on the wayback machine only yields redirects to t-learning.nl, so we’ll only be focusing on that.

t-learning.nl is currently dead, but there are a few snapshots saved on the Internet Archive.
This was what it looked like:
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I went ahead and archived all of the available pages on archive.today.

There’s one part I couldn’t archive, but if you click on “Cursusaanbod” on Wayback, you will be greeted by different provided “courses”.
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And if you click on the blue icon, you will be greeted by some long words (first two are the same for each other), they seem to just describe the course process and what to expect from it.
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I forgot where I found this, but I assume if you click around on the site long enough, you should be able to find this contact listing for Rene:
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Some more certificate stuff you can find under the “URLs” for t-learning.nl in IA.
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Rating review system for his website (again, dunno how I found this):
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His RocketReach for additional info:
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I found this website that may have more info on him, but it gets blocked by a sign up wall shortly after (and archiving doesn't bypass it).
Luckily I can bypass this just by recording myself clicking through all of the extra info in enough time in a private window and screenshotting it all throughout the video.
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His Facebook (A)
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I had a section of a potential Twitter account from him that was about jogging, but upon further research I don’t believe it to be him.

This Instragram (A) however might be him? It’s privated. The man in the profile very vaguely looks about what I expect if he looked older than from his (likely dated) LinkedIn profile.
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Emails:
rene.tollenaar@kiwa.com
ren.tollenaar@lr.org
info@t-ducatie.nl
Post address:
Julianalaan 61
6042 JE Roermond
KvK: 52738558
Banknumber: 1295.26.967

Email lookup:
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ren.tollenaar@lr.org pwned:
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Now onto the last member:
Max Tollenaar
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Funny story as to how I found Max: if you go back to Sam’s old Anargie YouTube channel, you’ll see a Friends List of users, and in that list is someone named “TollenaarMax”.
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And looking at the lowres profile pic, it does look vaguely like Sam or his sister if he was related.
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But that’s obviously not enough proof. So I searched “tollenaarmax”, and came across this Instagram (A) account from a guy with the same name and looks kinda similar to how the YT account looks in the profile.
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But it wasn’t until I stumbled across this website (A) from him that sealed the deal he was related.
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The website itself, maxtollenaar.nl, is dead but it can be viewed (and has been re-archived on .today) on the Wayback Machine.
Not only does the welcome page say he’s from Roermond just like Sam and co., but his “Over mij” page states he grew up in a family of “4 children”, got his diploma at Lyceum Schöndeln, and went to Radboud University to study political science, just like Sam and Liz.
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(On an unrelated note, it’s kinda funny how his old site’s got a similar color scheme going on just like with the Farms, lol)
If you’re wondering what the video was on his front page, I took the video URL and searched that to find it was made by this woman (A) YT (A), where it had something to do with a Dutch politician saying something retarded and Max using that as a point “for the people.”
I felt I had to get that out of the way beforehand just so it was 100% clear that Max is Sam’s brother.

LinkedIn
Max Tollenaar

Bestuursadviseur bij de gemeente s-Hertogenbosch | Algemeen Bestuurslid Waterschap de Dommel
Eindhoven, Noord-Brabant, Nederland

Contactgegevens

www.linkedin.com/in/maxtollenaar (LinkedIn)

Samenvatting

Bestuursadviseur bij gemeente 's-Hertogenbosch.

Belangrijkste vaardigheden

Politiek
Campagnes
Openbaar bestuur

Ervaring

Gemeente 's-Hertogenbosch
Bestuursadviseur
oktober 2022 - Present (1 jaar 10 maanden)

GroenLinks Eindhoven
4 jaar 11 maanden
Voorzitter
september 2019 - Present (4 jaar 11 maanden)
Eindhoven
Bestuursvoorzitter afdeling GroenLinks Eindhoven e.o. met ca. 600 leden.

Campagneleider
september 2021 - maart 2022 (7 maanden)
Campagneleider strategie voor de gemeenteraadsverkiezingen.

Voorzitter programmacommissie
september 2020 - september 2021 (1 jaar 1 maand)

GroenLinks Brabant
Kandidatencommissie
juni 2022 - november 2022 (6 maanden)

Gemeente Valkenswaard
5 jaar 6 maanden
Strategisch adviseur
december 2017 - september 2022 (4 jaar 10 maanden)
Valkenswaard
Strategisch adviseur en clustercoördinator.

Allround beleidsmedewerker
april 2017 - mei 2018 (1 jaar 2 maanden)
Valkenswaard

GroenLinks Limburg
Voorzitter kandidatencommissie
juni 2018 - december 2018 (7 maanden)
Roermond, Nederland

Gemeente Roermond
Raadslid
maart 2014 - maart 2018 (4 jaar 1 maand)
Roermond

GroenLinks Roermond
7 jaar
Campagneleider
september 2013 - maart 2018 (4 jaar 7 maanden)
Roermond

Bestuurslid
april 2011 - mei 2014 (3 jaar 2 maanden)
Roermond

Lid van het afdelingsbestuur van GroenLinks Roermond. Voorzitter van september 2013 tot mei 2014.

Programmacommissie
december 2012 - november 2013 (1 jaar)
Roermond

De programmacommissie schrijft het politiek programma voor GroenLinks Roermond voor de raadsperiode 2014-2018.

DWARS, GroenLinkse Jongeren
Voorzitter kandidatencommissie
april 2015 - april 2016 (1 jaar 1 maand)
Voorzitter van kandidatencommissie DWARS.

GroenLinks Limburg
Campagneleider
september 2014 - maart 2015 (7 maanden)
Limburg

Campagneleider voor de Provinciale Statenverkiezingen in Limburg.

DWARS, GroenLinkse Jongeren
2 jaar 7 maanden

Voorzitter zoekcommissie
oktober 2013 - oktober 2014 (1 jaar 1 maand)
Voorzitter van de commissie die verantwoordelijk is voor het werven van nieuwe bestuursleden.

Landelijk bestuurslid
april 2012 - oktober 2013 (1 jaar 7 maanden)
Utrecht

Lid van het landelijk bestuur van DWARS, GroenLinkse Jongeren. Van april 2012 - oktober 2012 bestuurslid Promotie & Scholing en van oktober 2012 tot oktober 2013 bestuurslid Ledenbinding & Scholing.

DWARS Limburg

Voorzitter
juni 2011 - november 2012 (1 jaar 6 maanden)
Limburg

Oprichter van afdeling en voorzitter van het afdelingsbestuur. Mediaoptredens bij o.a. L1 en Dagblad de Limburger.

Opleiding

Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam

Master of Science (MSc), Bestuurskunde (2014 - 2016)

Radboud Universiteit Nijmegen

Bachelor of Science (BSc), Politicologie (2010 - 2014)
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His experience:

Education & volunteering:
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His skills and endorsements by people:
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He was given a recommendation from “dylan baten”, there’s nothing on the “received” tab for him.
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Interests:
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Here are videos going over his posts and comments. Keep in mind these were recorded last year so there may be new posts, but I sincerely doubt I’m missing out on anything scandalous on a guy who’s into environmentalism and Dutch politics.


These were all of the images he’s posted of himself on LinkedIn:
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Next I want to move onto some videos he’s been featured in.

He’s featured in a podcast (A) to discuss climate change and environmental issues.
L / A


As seen in his credentials, he is working under GroenLinks as a chairman, and as such GroenLinks has a YouTube channel (A) which features him not only in videos but in the channel banner itself.
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They only have 6 videos up, most of it features discussion of whatever political issues they have with each other, including Max. They will all be archived below.
L / A

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L / A
Everything beyond that is just gonna be articles either written by him or about him.
Here is an article he wrote for BNNVARA (same company Sam works for) back in 2012 advocating for cannabis cultivation regulations (A).
Opinion piece article he wrote discussing how climate change affects sports and that there needs to be accommodations for players during weather conditions (A)
Article he and a co-author wrote about GroenLinks becoming the largest party in the cities of Eindhoven and Tilburg in 2022. (A)
Article he wrote discussing how inequality has become “regionalized”. (A)
Webpage that features GroenLinks’ members, with Max as the Chairman of the party. (A)
His GroenLinks’ webpage that gives info about his history. (A)
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Article going over the history of DWARS Brabant (youth wing of GroenLinks) and Max’s involvement as chairman. (A)
Interview of Max at DWARS (A)
Small article of DWARS electing a new board in 2012 with Max helping. (A)
He was featured in a Top 10 Influencers page in Roermond, Netherlands. (A)

If you go back to his dead website, he’ll have a page of articles shouting him out on “In de media”. Most of them are dead, some have been archived but were apparently audio-only and it looks like Archive.org wasn’t able to save it. I’ll still post the archived webpages here for posterity.
Text blurb about Max becoming a board member of DWARS
Max first joining GroenLinks
Article about more young people in politics that I think was written by Max
Dead audio 1
Dead audio 2
Dead audio 3

There’s this “newsletter”/Introductory .PDF he wrote in 2019 (based off his age of 27), and in it he mentions he moved to Eindhoven and has a girlfriend named “Lotte”. It will be linked below. (Nieuwsbrief GroenLinks Eindhoven Max Tollenaar.pdf)
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ENG:
I recently moved to beautiful Eindhoven with my girlfriend Lotte and cat Bas. I am 27 years old and work as a strategic advisor for the municipality of Valkenswaard in my daily life.

He has an old Blogspot website for him to dump his thoughts on whatever he’s thinking about. (A)

There's this .PDF where three municipalities in the Netherlands (Cranendonck, Heeze-Leende, and Valkenswaard; all located in Eindhoven) are trying to figure out the best way to work together in the future and Max is the Drafter of it. What's interesting is it apparently reveals his phone number and another email address. (Raadsvoorstel vervolgproces Stip op de Horizon.pdf)
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Max’s RocketReach:
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Socials:
His old Twitter (A)
Current Twitter (A)
Archived Dead Website
Instagram (Private) (A)
Mastodon (A)
Facebook (Unable to archive)
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Blogger Profile (A)
Blog Posts (A)
BNNVARA Profile (A)
Webpage to view his political votes (A)
Max's emails:
mtollenaar@groenlinks.nl
max.tollenaar@valkenswaard.nl
mtollenaar@dommel.nl
m.tollenaar@s-hertogenbosch.nl
tollenaarm@s-hertogenbosch.nl
Phone: 040-208-3483

Email lookup (the last 3 links didn’t bring back anything):
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For max.tollenaar@valkenswaard.nl:
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As far as I’m aware I’m still missing Sam’s other brother and his mother (unless Rene’s possible Instagram profile pic counts), but at this point I say I’m satisfied with dumping all of my research here on Sam’s extended family. Interesting how his older bro worked at the same place he’s at (BNNVARA) and got into ecofag politics. I wonder if he had a hand in helping Sam work for them or had some influence regarding his output in art.
Also GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG, DIS NIGGA’S GOT TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG
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