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Melty from one of GNOME devs over XLibre.
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https://blogs.gnome.org/alatiera/2025/06/23/the-fascist-maggots/ // https://archive.ph/RCqys
Same faggot earlier claimed his clique "worked hard on killing x11".
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Now why would it need to be killed if it has a bunch of tech debt and thus could die on its own?

Is Wayland Gay?​

Yes and Xorg is Trans.

Happy Pride month and Free Palestine ✊

He doesn't realize but the joke is that Xorg killed itself.
 

Is Wayland Gay?​

Yes and Xorg is Trans.

Happy Pride month and Free Palestine ✊

He doesn't realize but the joke is that Xorg killed itself.
200 fucking keks. So they're going to pretend they're still maintaining it by making a trannified version of Xorg?

the XLibre guy couldn't clown on this any harder even if he tried :story:
 
200 fucking keks. So they're going to pretend they're still maintaining it by making a trannified version of Xorg?

the XLibre guy couldn't clown on this any harder even if he tried :story:
To be exact there's an Xorg part called libxtrans and they made the project logo on freedesktop a tranny flag. It would the funniest thing possible if the thing that finally killed GNOME was XLibre becoming popular and GNOME refusing to ship an XLibre version because erm sweaty Xorg owns that why don't you try Wayland instead.
 
Sorry for being a schizophrenic tourist, but "if" they are telling the truth then why are they so mad about the fork? If the German autist is competant that would free up RedHat employees from the tedium of maintaining spahgetti code and if he is incompetant the conspiratards would come back and guh-kneel at Wayland's feet. It should be a good problem for these guys to have or is getting bullied by autists, just that traumatic.
Also a good summary post I ran into.
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Sorry for being a schizophrenic tourist, but "if" they are telling the truth then why are they so mad about the fork?
Generous answer: the same reason companies are so upset about piracy, it's not about money, it's about control. However, it's just as likely that the Wayland project was intended as a sort of Trojan horse into the Linux ecosystem to deter adoption and give Red Hat and GNOME more control over Linux.
 
Dang, is that why I'm so bad at Devil Daggers?
Try i3wm (without a compositor) and see if you feel the difference. I do, especially on my 60hz monitor.

This whole XLibre drama has made me seriously consider putting together a full trip mouse-to-monitor latency testing rig for Xorg/XLibre/Wayland. The Wayland people are non-stop gaslighting us with bullshit. I remember when "BETTER PERFORMANCE" was like THE selling point of Wayland 15 years ago, not this "no-tearing, perfect frame" crap they say now. That has disappeared because any performance difference is usually within the margin of error. The reality is Wayland feels slow (to me). I don't care if there's technically multiple cursors on the screen at the same time due to tearing, my eyeballs and brains filter it out, but I definitely feel it when my cursor is vsync'd.

Forget about frame latency, what about input latency? I've never seen serious benchmarking of these display systems. Nevermind that "Wayland is just a protocol, bruh" so in reality every single implementation has to be tested separately. I'd bet money at least one of them has a totally unreasonable amount of latency somewhere in the system and no one mentions it because it's part of Linux desktop culture (Freedesktop culture?) to just ignore these types of things and pretend like they don't exist.
 
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Try i3wm (without a compositor) and see if you feel the difference. I do, especially on my 60hz monitor.

This whole XLibre drama has made me seriously consider putting together a full trip mouse-to-monitor latency testing rig for Xorg/XLibre/Wayland. The Wayland people are non-stop gaslighting us with bullshit. I remember when "BETTER PERFORMANCE" was like THE selling point of Wayland 15 years ago, not this "no-tearing, perfect frame" crap they say now. That has disappeared because any performance difference is usually within the margin of error. The reality is Wayland feels slow (to me). I don't care if there's technically multiple cursors on the screen at the same time due to tearing, my eyeballs and brains filter it out, but I definitely feel it when my cursor is vsync'd.

Forget about frame latency, what about input latency? I've never seen serious benchmarking of these display systems. Nevermind that "Wayland is just a protocol, bruh" so in reality every single implementation has to be tested separately. I'd bet money at least one of them has a totally unreasonable amount of latency somewhere in the system and no one mentions it because it's part of Linux desktop culture (Freedesktop culture?) to just ignore these types of things and pretend like they don't exist.
Please do, as that would be quite interesting to see.
 
Forget about frame latency, what about input latency?
At least one person has done some rudimentary test about it before after complaining about it (and reading about others'), but it's very hardware dependent of course. (link)
Wayland, on average, has roughly 6.5ms more cursor latency than X11 on my system.I don't have the statistics expertise necessary to properly analyze whether this difference is statistically significant or not, but to my untrained eye, it looks like there's a clear and consistent difference.
Interestingly, the difference is very close to 1 full screen refresh. I don't know whether or not that's a coincidence.
Hard numbers in the Wayland vs X11 input latency discussion - Mort's Ramblings.webp
And those are just results pointing a phone camera at a screen.
 
As autistics, diagnosed or undiagnosed, it's very easy for us to sperg da-fuck-out over things we mildly care about, like display servers or if intel chips are really compromised or not.
We(You) have to do a conscious mental effort to not lock-out while challenged about minor computer disagreements, to stop our(your)selves(self) from completely going neanderthal, making guttural noises at our opponent of the minute.
It's mental effort we(you) wish we didn't have to take, which becomes a big problem when some of us are convinced that every other autist, diagnosed or undiagnosed, that also likes to use dd to put a new free, as in freedom, operating system on a flash drive, is a nazi.

It only leads to disaster when we refuse to keep our spergness in check "because it's the right thing to do, because right-sided history or something".
Autists in charge at gnome, redhat, freedesktop, etc. Although they have the final say, are still losing "da community" because their newfound indulgence to sperg has made them lose their ability to build consensus.
What is the purpose of a "Benevolent Dictator for Life" if you can't be "Benevolent"? John Calvin went through this similar, but more serious issue.
“When the kings disobey God, they automatically abdicate their worldly power”.

And by this Benevolent Dictator, this King, we mean the Autist who can actually code a project into the right direction, through sheer divine intellect.
Not the autist sperging and going through a spergoideological purge on a webshite he happens to admin on.

The truth of the matter is that free software, such as Xorg, don't ever "become obsolete", it's Feature Complete For Life, and it can achieve even more feature completeness and polish.

It's sad that in their spergness they are foolishly bringing up Nazis, Fascism and The Holocaust for the sole purpose of defending their bad janitor leadership from criticism.
Is this what 6 million jews died for? Just so spergs on the internet can exploit Jewish suffering in order to stop code from being forked.
 
As autistics, diagnosed or undiagnosed, it's very easy for us to sperg da-fuck-out over things we mildly care about, like display servers or if intel chips are really compromised or not.
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Is this what 6 million jews died for?
A post that definitely wasn't about the journey, but the destination was reached all the same.
 
At least one person has done some rudimentary test about it before after complaining about it (and reading about others'), but it's very hardware dependent of course. (link)

Interesting. Does Steam’s OS for their Switch-like handheld device (the name of it escapes me at the moment) use Wayland?
 
Melty from one of GNOME devs over XLibre.
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https://blogs.gnome.org/alatiera/2025/06/23/the-fascist-maggots/ // https://archive.ph/RCqys
Same faggot earlier claimed his clique "worked hard on killing x11".
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Now why would it need to be killed if it has a bunch of tech debt and thus could die on its own?
Looks like the original blogpost is now deleted, Mastodon announcement (a) is still up which makes me think it might've been deleted by whoever jannies gnome blogs. Perhaps this much undiluted schizophrenia was too much even for ever-pozzed GNOME community.
 
Looks like the original blogpost is now deleted, Mastodon announcement (a) is still up which makes me think it might've been deleted by whoever jannies gnome blogs. Perhaps this much undiluted schizophrenia was too much even for ever-pozzed GNOME community.
I think the Gnome community likes to pretend they're adults and that blog post disproved that.
 
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