Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[Cuckoman]

(2) this arms race to keep bots out is evolutionary pressure that means the bots are continually improving the quality of their content.

Bots will continue to evolve until they are indistinguishable from the average redditor.
At that point you no longer need an internet connection for your social media.
You just have a local app with a bunch of local bots running on your phone.

reddit-in-your-pocket.
The only thing that prevents this from happening right now is they haven't figured out how to serve ads on your screen without an internet connection.

This is a billion dollar idea:
An app where you write a prompt, then it automatically creates a fake subforum and fills it with thousands and thousands of pages of fake redditors arguing about the topic.
No matter how fucked up or weird your fetich is there is now a "forum" where there are thousands of "people" participating and actively discussing it with you.
Figure out how to monetize this with ads and you will be richer than Elon.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

https://lunduke.substack.com/p/id-verification-could-fix-the-dead

Lunduke advocating for mandatory ID verification as "the only solution" to the AI bot problem (he literally just covered the Tea app leak). Besides the obvious, there are a few big problems with this. 1 platforms have the ability right now to massively downsize the AI bot problem, but they don't do this because those bots are beneficial to those platforms. 2 many of those "bots" are actually humans, whether they are Indians or Redditors. 3 even pretending that platforms want to get rid of the bots, this is unlikely to even work, because it is very unlikely that a convincing fake ID will be spotted, especially since shitholes like India will probably be willing to vouch for them. 4 this is very racist because black people are too stupid to get government IDs, as is well known. 5 the highest quality posters will leave because you would have to be terminally retarded to send your government ID to a tech company.

Took a while but he showed his (((inner colours))) hasn't he?

But seriously though, it's supposed to mean "anti-revolutionary". Think people who want to return to the good ol' days. Nowadays it's just another word for "conservative".

To my knowledge, it's supposed to be "conservative, but with balls". Meaning, roll back the "rights" gained from 1960s and such. Alas, not happening (), but the mindset is there.

I remember during the early days of the Ukraine War Lunduke was one of the few people advocating for Russia.

His take was "Ukraine is persecuting Jews", and Putin was "fighting Nazis", or somethign along those lines.

LMAO, if he really said that - he's quite foolish. I'll try to excuse that on a mishap of news, alas.

 

[The Wise Shaman]

The bot problem is one of the reasons I've found myself using the Farms more in recent years than ever before. This is one of the few sites that isn't botted to hell because there is no money in doing it.

Forcing everyone to ID themselves will only make all of the data on everyone online that much more valuable. It will further compound the problem.

The future of the internet is its roots: smelly, smaller forums with tight-nit user bases that know each other well enough that the bots stick out.

One thing worth mentioning is that not even forcing everyone to ID themselves would stop the enshittification of the Internet. There are entire companies in third-world countries that do nothing but create slop content and make money through ad revenue with it. The internet was ruined from the moment monetization of your content/post became the norm. The moment you take away the ability to make money or control the narrative, quality becomes a lot better. The main problem is that only niche communities tend to achieve this, and a lot of them started to use websites where the ability for discussion is suboptimal, like Discord or Reddit. You will not find any major website that won't let you make money or advertise stuff, only websites run by small communities. Forums of the good old days are genuinely the best way to discuss stuff to this day, despite losing a lot of popularity as time went on. I'm glad Kiwi Farms exists; I didn't know what I was missing out on until I met a proper internet forum for discussion.

 

[Angie Wormwood]

But we are probably 6-18 months away from generalist models being able to do 110 IQ 2000s-era SA/cracked.com crossposter, or 2008 atheist blogger

People like you have been saying this for years now. We're a few months away from... Except it never happens because the tech literally can't do it.

AI as it is now is cooked, thoroughly. It's only getting faster, but not better.

 

[AnOminous]

Does this retard Lunduke not understand that the internet is already dead and were in the decay process ecosystem forming on its corpse?

Lunduke is part of that ecosystem. I hope we're not.

Bots will continue to evolve until they are indistinguishable from the average redditor.

I can already instantly detect a redditor because it is more pathetic and zero IQ than any bot.

In fact, the redditor is already distinguishable from a mindless LLM because the mindless bot is more intelligent than a redditor.

AI as it is now is cooked, thoroughly. It's only getting faster, but not better.

That is entirely true. But it is still more "intelligent" at probably 0 IQ than people who have rendered themselves negative-IQ, something that shouldn't be possible. They not only are completely mindless, they are memetic Azathoth, radiating idiocy in every direction, and make the entire world dumber just by existing.

 

[Penis]

Do you have a link or video for this?

LMAO, if he really said that - he's quite foolish. I'll try to excuse that on a mishap of news, alas.

Alright. I went digging, but I could not find it. There seems to be a gap in videos between 2018 and 2023; its possible he deleted it. Its also possible he uploaded it at a later date. Too be honest, I can't be fucked to dig through hundreds of hours of video to find it. The dude uploads as much as DSP. Its insane how many videos he's put out in the last 2 years.

 

[Cuckoman]

There is https://notegpt.io/youtube-transcript-generator that makes it easy to grep for and search in a single video.
What would be super useful would be a tool that you could point to a channel and then have it transcribe and timestamp every single video for that channel.

That could also be very useful when documenting the cows. Especially the terminal ones that upload almost unbounded numbers of shitty videos that no person has the time or patience to watch.

I would do it myself but I am more of a bitbanging low-level guy and not really that into web-shit but maybe some other farmer could help develop this?

 

[Max Weber]

There is https://notegpt.io/youtube-transcript-generator that makes it easy to grep for and search in a single video.
What would be super useful would be a tool that you could point to a channel and then have it transcribe and timestamp every single video for that channel.

That could also be very useful when documenting the cows. Especially the terminal ones that upload almost unbounded numbers of shitty videos that no person has the time or patience to watch.

I would do it myself but I am more of a bitbanging low-level guy and not really that into web-shit but maybe some other farmer could help develop this?

There's filmot, which searches over youtube's own transcript, if that helps.

 

[Spaced Outside Cargo]

This is one of the few sites that isn't botted to hell because there is no money in doing it.

I thought about how theres like no bots on this site. When I used iFunny, there was also no money to be had from the platform due to botting. The ultimate goal of a bot was to get you off the app, usually for porn or crypto.
Therefore, I think botting this site has no purpose because of the culture of the site itself.
Very few gooners and everyone here is distrustful of offsite links and have some knowledge of scams.

 

[Cherenkovblue]

I get what you're saying about the charm of smaller, more tight-knit communities where bots don’t thrive as much. There’s something about forums like KiwiFarms that give off that "old internet" vibe where everyone feels a bit more genuine and connected.

Well, that and looking down and being able to see gems like...