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It does appear that Canonical fired him. I’m not giving them any credit because it was clearly to cover their own asses, but “nobody will do anything” isn’t true either.

Debian on the other hand seems to be actively covering it up.
 
Not Real said:
And all it took for this sadistic pedo to get exposed was a small wiki edit to own the chuds... When the third Google result for your name is a sex offender registry entry maybe think twice before pulling shit like that
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What happened to get him on everyones radar?
 
Itchy Hemorrhoids said:
It does appear that Canonical fired him. I’m not giving them any credit because it was clearly to cover their own asses, but “nobody will do anything” isn’t true either.

Debian on the other hand seems to be actively covering it up.
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That is the FOSS equivalent of transferring a priest who fucked altar boys to another city. It's not anything approaching an appropriate response, just shuffling them out of view for the moment.
 
filthypenguin said:
It makes me wonder if Canonical fired him solely to save face for hiring a pedophile, or if they fired him for creating political drama where there didn't need to be. I would fire him for the second reason, the same as I would fire anyone else who tried to insert politics, religion, or sex into their job. But either way, I don't think Canonical did anything wrong by hiring him to begin with. Maybe they should have kept a closer eye on him and told him to knock it off early on, but that's about it.
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Except when you realize that:
  • There are children and teenagers within FLOSS communities, including under 13s.
  • Some of them are active contributors and have connections with the company and/or distribution developers, as is the case with Rudra.
  • Both federal and state laws in the U.S. impose restrictions on sex offenders that companies and organizations employing them must adhere to. This includes prohibiting them from directly working with children, and these restrictions are stricter for sexual predators.
Canonical completely mishandled this situation. Ideally, they should be sued for gross negligence for putting the youngest members of their community and team at risk. The same could very well apply to those in charge of Debian and GNOME. You cannot simply hire an individual like this, much less place them in a position where they could easily abuse their power to reoffend. If Bicha's public behavior with XLibre was so egregious, it's not unreasonable to think that he might be committing far worse acts in private, especially with an entire network of accomplices protecting him.
 
alphabetnigger said:
What happened to get him on everyones radar?
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Max Weber said:
Speaking of Debian, two Debian devs (or, rather, one Debian dev and one Canonical employee, AFAICT) tried to edit the Are We XLibre Yet? page with their opinions:

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Is there any discussion on the forums/public MLs or did they just decide to add that on their own?
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He defaced a github wiki called arewexlibreyet by saying "Second Debian Developer [sic] who agrees that Debian does not want to become a Nazi bar". Fortunately, looks like those changes got reverted for not citing a source.
Max Weber said:
Sure does look like it, doesn't it? :smug:
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Worth mentioning that he was not actually a second debian Developer yet, but an Ubuntu developer. Or maybe that's why Debian wants him to represent them.
 
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Do we know who these jannies are that were actively sweeping for Bicha? Edit: Starting Info-
DLang- Daniel Lang (Archive) Personal Site (Archive) Contact Page (Archive)
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pkern- Philipp Kern (Archive) LinkedIn Github (Archive)
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Sledge- Steve McIntyre (Archive) Steve's Page (Archive)
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volatile puar said:
He defaced a github wiki called arewexlibreyet by saying "Second Debian Developer [sic] who agrees that Debian does not want to become a Nazi bar". Fortunately, looks like those changes got reverted for not citing a source.

Worth mentioning that he was not actually a second debian Developer yet, but an Ubuntu developer. Or maybe that's why Debian wants him to represent them.
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Ah ty ty. I remember reading something about that. What a fucking scumbag all around.
 
Nozo-miko said:
The pfp and banner of the Xitter GNOME account feature a flag with color patterns similar to those of the MAP flag, I bet this is not a coincidence!

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They are trying to tell us something.. I wonder what their next plans on expand the scope of their DEI policies will be. 🤔️
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I thought this might be the band Gnome for a second and got very afeared because their shit slaps.
 
Nozo-miko said:
Except when you realize that:
  • There are children and teenagers within FLOSS communities, including under 13s.
  • Some of them are active contributors and have connections with the company and/or distribution developers, as is the case with Rudra.
  • Both federal and state laws in the U.S. impose restrictions on sex offenders that companies and organizations employing them must adhere to. This includes prohibiting them from directly working with children, and these restrictions are stricter for sexual predators.
Canonical completely mishandled this situation. Ideally, they should be sued for gross negligence for putting the youngest members of their community and team at risk. The same could very well apply to those in charge of Debian and GNOME. You cannot simply hire an individual like this, much less place them in a position where they could easily abuse their power to reoffend. If Bicha's public behavior with XLibre was so egregious, it's not unreasonable to think that he might be committing far worse acts in private, especially with an entire network of accomplices protecting him.
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Ubuntu can always pull the old "We aren't a US company, so don't impose your morals on us, you filthy Americans". Is Debian Euro-based, or am I mixing them up with SUSE? Could be the same situation.

If a "progessive" weirdo can endorse or protect degeneracy by being non-American and act all superior about it because "Americans all all so backwards and puritanical", they would defend Satan himself just for backpats.
 
In the deleted post (archive) in the Debian subreddit where a user asked why child rapists are allowed at the DebConf a lot of users downvoted this reply.

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Says a lot, they are angry that their favorite child rapist is being dishonored. But hey, he may be a ruthless serial child rapist with extreme sadism near the levels of Peter Scully, but at least he's not a bigoted nazi who doesn't respect our 35236436 pronouns and genders!
I wonder what the pronouns and gender of a child rapist would be though.
 
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In the deleted post (archive) in the Debian subreddit where a user asked why child rapists are allowed at the DebConf a lot of users downvoted this reply.

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Says a lot, they are angry that their favorite child rapist is being dishonored. But hey, he may be a ruthless serial child rapist with extreme sadism near the levels of Peter Scully, but at least he's not a bigoted nazi who doesn't respect our 35236436 pronouns and genders!
I wonder what the pronouns and gender of a child rapist would be though.
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The sad, sick truth is most "progressives" would tell you, to your face, that they'd rather be surrounded by predators than allow a conservative to breathe.
 
Gorton Colu said:
Generic loonix request incoming:

Look you queers, I understand that Ubuntu is pozzed and Canonical is retarded and gay.

However, I need an XCFE distro that just werks. If Xubuntu is not a good option due to faggotry, I'm going to need a based distro that I won't have to spend much time keeping up and running on a Laptop.

Is anyone able to recommend some options?
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Linux Mint has a XFCE version. They take Ubuntu and strip out the faggotry like SNAPS and have a polished user friendly setup with a good community that's willi g to offer help


volatile puar said:
He defaced a github wiki called arewexlibreyet by saying "Second Debian Developer [sic] who agrees that Debian does not want to become a Nazi bar". Fortunately, looks like those changes got reverted for not citing a source.
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With how much they love to pull the citation needed thing on Wikipedia I'm sure they recieved that well.
 
AnOminous said:
He's literally at a conference right now interacting with the general public while Debian desperately tries to conceal the fact that he's a menace to that very public.
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According to Canonical, he went as an independent party, so that's a problem with Debian not Canonical.
Markass the Worst said:
Not if everybody refuses to hire him, as they should.

You're confusing tactics and morals. From his perspective, the right tactic would be to lay low and not stir up shit, yes. From a moral perspective, he should die.
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If everyone refuses to hire him, then he either lives off our tax money or robs people (which is basically the same thing). I agre he should die, but that's not something Canonical can carry out legally.
break these cuffs said:
A conference they invite children to. They want a man who's committed thousands of violent sexual assaults against children to represent their company to children.
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DavidS877 said:
In the past it certainly seems that families were welcome at DebConf as they mention having child care and day trips for attendees. Seems like the last place you'd send a sexual predator, or maybe the first if you're Canonical.
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According to them, they didn't send him there.
Nozo-miko said:
Except when you realize that:
  • There are children and teenagers within FLOSS communities, including under 13s.
  • Some of them are active contributors and have connections with the company and/or distribution developers, as is the case with Rudra.
  • Both federal and state laws in the U.S. impose restrictions on sex offenders that companies and organizations employing them must adhere to. This includes prohibiting them from directly working with children, and these restrictions are stricter for sexual predators.
Canonical completely mishandled this situation. Ideally, they should be sued for gross negligence for putting the youngest members of their community and team at risk. The same could very well apply to those in charge of Debian and GNOME. You cannot simply hire an individual like this, much less place them in a position where they could easily abuse their power to reoffend. If Bicha's public behavior with XLibre was so egregious, it's not unreasonable to think that he might be committing far worse acts in private, especially with an entire network of accomplices protecting him.
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He can't rape children over the internet by just doing his job.
 
I googled how children are handled at debconf, and google returned this entry to me:
Children are not allowed in the venue.
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Then i went to the website, and it says
Children are allowed into the venue, but must remain under close supervision of a responsible adult at all times.
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So i went to the wayback machine, and it only has a snaphot from earlier today, last week and months ago.
The last two saying the same text about "remain under supervision" and the ones from months ago are gibberish.

Could it be, that they changed this Faq on short notice? Then google scraped it and then they changed back again?

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Got it, they changed it on the 5th of July
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filthypenguin said:
According to them, they didn't send him there.
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You book travel for international conferences months and months in advance. They likely paid his flights and probably the hotel long before this came out. It's only in the last week they're disclaiming him.
Canonical was a sponsor and you don't generally have an employee going without them going under your name if you're a sponsor.
 
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