Overwatch

[Optimus Prime]

I get a strong ED-209 vibe from the upper body design.

All the more reason to get it. The ED-209 self-destructing all the time finally has a good use.

 

[ADN_VIII]

YOU HAVE TWENTY SECONDS TO COMPLY
*SELF DESTRUCT*

 

[Foltest]

It's basically Blizzard's version of the League of Legends format. You MUST have a friend on Battle.Net in your party in a PVP game but you do NOT have to WIN. Five games a week is piss easy to do in under an hour, so as long as you can get a friend, it's well worth it.
.

Implying I have friends on Battle.,net

 

[Michel]

Implying I have friends on Battle.,net

Just look for a group in the HotS lobby. That's what I did last time.

 

[Erida]

Every Uprising loot box is disappointment and duplicates. I'm going to have to stump up the 3000 tomorrow unless I get lucky before then.

 

[ICametoLurk]

A'yup

These fucking people.

 

[Woodcutting bot]

Haven't played since last september. Has anything changed much except the addition or new heroes+maps+skins?

 

[Faint taste of butter]

I had already given up hope...

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(excuse my shitty graphic settings)

 

[Foltest]

luckey bastard.

 

[The Fair Lady]

Holy fuck this thread.

 

[Michel]

(excuse my shitty graphic settings)

no

 

[Awkwafina]

A'yup

These fucking people.

You forgot this shit. Never mind the fact she's Korean and isn't associated in any way with the controversy surrounding American cops or BLM.

 

[Michel]

I feel like female Mercy mains get a lot of hate both in game and on stream.

Yes, I am a female mercy main. Because of this, I admit that I may be biased or overreacting. I just thought I'd share some of my experiences and let you guys tell me what you thought.

Most of my time spent on voice comms has been positive. Usually my teammates are cool-headed and motivated to win, and if any raging happens it's targeted towards gameplay, not identity. 30% percent of the time I get comments that are related to me being a girl mercy. It's usually said with a condescending tone, like I'm somehow inconveniencing them just by existing.

A few weeks ago I made it to diamond, in one of my first games while there a guy told me how every girl in this elo was a mercy one trick, how he'd started making a poll just to prove it, and how I needed to switch off of Mercy if I died. Never mind that I also play other supports and that he was actually the first to die, costing us the first point. The next round he said the same thing, even though I died the least amount of times.

Another game we were in the end screen after a victory. A guy, after staying silent the entire match, decided to type in all chat, "every single girl in this game plays mercy, not trying to hate, just saying the truth." I guess this was some sort of hidden piece of information that the higher-ups have been concealing from the community, and that it was this guy's job to say it so we could be free from lies.

Other guys will ask it like a question, "why do all girls play mercy?" I'm not against having a discussion about it, but when I enter the queue I don't want to have to be the spokesperson for the psychological workings of my entire gender. I just want to play a video game.

This always seemed extremely ironic to me because you always hear guys complaining about how girls make every thing about their gender, or how all girls feel the need to explain that they're a "girl gamer". That mentality is so common it's become a meme (mercy main btw), and sure it's a funny one, but the only times my gender has ever been brought up is when it's done by a guy, not by me. In fact, I play games with girls all the time both online and irl, not a single one has ever called attention to their gender. It's always a guy, specifically a guy who doesn't know me but who immediately feels like judging me because of the character who I'm playing.

This doesn't even touch on the amount of times that I've gotten sexual comments. It's always gross and uncomfortable. Sometimes it just lasts during champ select where a guy's like "Hey baby, why don't you tell me your kik," but there have been several times when guys have done this to me throughout the entire match. One time I got a guy two games in a row who, for the entirety of both games, made comments about having sex with me while making moaning noises. Another time a guy who I friended after a game asked for my social media, saying that he bet "my body matched my voice." I told him I didn't want to give it to him because it made me uncomfortable. Every time I logged on he would ask me for it, and eventually I just blocked him. This is the kind of stuff every girl goes through, not just mercy players.

Most of the time I just laugh it off or joke along with them because I'm afraid of standing up for myself. In the past when I've seen other girls speak up guys will say that they're overreacting or getting too offended or being "triggered." I think this is part of the whole, "toughen up" mentality that's been circulating throughout the internet lately, it's the idea that people can be mean and that other's should just learn to deal with it and stop complaining, that it's the nature of online interaction for guys to act this way. I think that part of this came from the whole gamergate thing, where gamers were accused of being sexist and they fought back against the accusation. I don't think gamers are sexist, again, most of my time in voice is positive, but I don't think that it's wrong to point out sexism or just general doucheyness when someone sees it. One time a guy actually did stand up for me when this was going on, but he got accused of "white-knighting." I think that phrase is a load of shit and that people use it as a deflect when they get called out for being assholes.

One of my favorite streamers is TimtheTatman, he's a seriously funny dude. But the reaction that people have when a girl shows up in his game makes me want to vomit. It starts off with the endless parade of "GRILL" comments. Then the others come, "another girl mercy LUL" "hah girls can only play healer," "Tim ask for her kik".

For the rest of the game that girl's every move will be scrutinized. If she makes a mistake and dies with rez she gets flamed. If she doesn't heal Tim and he dies she gets flamed.

It doesn't help that Tim just dislikes mercy as a character so he'll sometimes talk shit because of that. It pissed me off immensely a few weeks ago when a mercy was carrying the game but he gave her shit because she died with rez once. I heard him call a girl a whore (not to her but still on stream) and chat went wild over it. A few days ago there was a girl mercy on stream who couldn't play any other healers. Now, this isn't good, when you get to a higher elo it's best to try to learn extra characters so you can switch if you need to, but she DID switch to Lucio and wasn't doing well on him. Tim and chat made fun of her because of everyone's idea that he's an easy hero (he's really not).

This isn't me trying to hate on Tim. I get that everyone gets frustrated in game and that the persona he shows on stream is largely for entertainment because he know's it's funny. I also get that chat is full of trolls and people who just join in with the crowd because they think it's silly, but it just hurts to be a girl watching and seeing everyone say things like that. It's not just in Tim's stream, it's really in any stream where there's a girl. I remember during a hearthstone tournament there was a female interviewer, and the entire time she was speaking chat was spamming comments about her body. Same deal with female casters. Like, yes people joke and yes people make fun of guys too, but what am I supposed to feel sitting there and watching this happen? I don't know.

I honestly feel bad for every girl that finds herself on a guy's stream. Maybe less so the ones who choose to because they know what they're getting into, I'm talking about the ones who just queue up for a game and wind up in another streamer's match with chat constantly talking shit about her. I hit masters last week and it's honestly become a fear of mine that that this might happen to me. Pathetic? Maybe. Egotistical? Sure. The odds of me running into a streamer are low, especially one who's popular. I probably won't ever make it beyond low masters so it's very unlikely, but every time I watch a stream and see stuff like this happen to a girl I can't help but put myself in their shoes and think that it could be me.

Yes, many girls play mercy. Ok fine, most girls play mercy. You know something? Most guys play dps. In fact, if I remember correctly, a few weeks ago a Redditor released a poll that showed that most guys play genji and hanzo, and that sounds about right to me. You wanna talk about female mercies, how many games have you had with 4 dps and a roadhog? How many games have you had when the junkrat wouldn't swap to tank? How many of those players do you think were guys? Both genders have preferences, it just so happens that there aren't that many girls who play overwatch so the trends are more apparent for them when they show up.

I don't like entering a game with a target immediately put on my back. I don't like feeling anxiety and wondering if I should speak early on so people get used to me being a girl or wait until the middle of the match so they're less likely to comment on it. I don't like coughing and trying to deepen my voice in order to sound less feminine. I don't like knowing that in some way I'm contributing to a stereotype that people make fun of and wondering if I should feel guilty about that.

If you're in a game and have a girl mercy on your team, please consider how she might feel before you say anything. What you run into from time to time and feel like commenting on just this once, she gets constantly. Stuff likes this makes girls wonder if it's worth using a mic or if they should just communicate by typing. I personally will continue speaking, but I know girls who don't anymore because they hated how guys would treat them. There have been days when I wanted to play ranked but just decided not to because of how much of a chore it can be to be a girl in a game while using your voice.

Am I exaggerating or overreacting? Do I have a point? Have you guys noticed what I've noticed during Twitch streams? Maybe there are girls in here who can relate to what I've experienced, or maybe there are guys who go through something similar who would like to share. Let me know, and thanks for reading.

 

[The Fair Lady]

I'm female and Mercy is my second most-played hero after D.Va.

I don't have a mic, so that has never been a problem for me. It's not something I've noticed either, but it still sucks to hear. I guess there's both a plus and a negative to not having a mic - on the one hand you don't get harassed for your voice, but on the other you can be subjected to assholes trash-talking you because they don't like how you're playing and you have no way of defending yourself. (The latter has, unfortunately, happened to me on occasion.) Though if your gamertag includes a word like girl, lady or anything else to insinuate that you're female you could very well be harassed regardless. The "hurr durr Mercy is easy so of course girls would play her" mentality is nothing more than immaturity when you get down to it.

I would say try to ignore it but I know it's hard. At least the mute button exists.

 

[[Insert Meme Here]]

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feel like female Mercy mains get a lot of hate both in game and on stream.

Yes, I am a female mercy main. Because of this, I admit that I may be biased or overreacting. I just thought I'd share some of my experiences and let you guys tell me what you thought.

Most of my time spent on voice comms has been positive. Usually my teammates are cool-headed and motivated to win, and if any raging happens it's targeted towards gameplay, not identity. 30% percent of the time I get comments that are related to me being a girl mercy. It's usually said with a condescending tone, like I'm somehow inconveniencing them just by existing.

A few weeks ago I made it to diamond, in one of my first games while there a guy told me how every girl in this elo was a mercy one trick, how he'd started making a poll just to prove it, and how I needed to switch off of Mercy if I died. Never mind that I also play other supports and that he was actually the first to die, costing us the first point. The next round he said the same thing, even though I died the least amount of times.

Another game we were in the end screen after a victory. A guy, after staying silent the entire match, decided to type in all chat, "every single girl in this game plays mercy, not trying to hate, just saying the truth." I guess this was some sort of hidden piece of information that the higher-ups have been concealing from the community, and that it was this guy's job to say it so we could be free from lies.

Other guys will ask it like a question, "why do all girls play mercy?" I'm not against having a discussion about it, but when I enter the queue I don't want to have to be the spokesperson for the psychological workings of my entire gender. I just want to play a video game.

This always seemed extremely ironic to me because you always hear guys complaining about how girls make every thing about their gender, or how all girls feel the need to explain that they're a "girl gamer". That mentality is so common it's become a meme (mercy main btw), and sure it's a funny one, but the only times my gender has ever been brought up is when it's done by a guy, not by me. In fact, I play games with girls all the time both online and irl, not a single one has ever called attention to their gender. It's always a guy, specifically a guy who doesn't know me but who immediately feels like judging me because of the character who I'm playing.

This doesn't even touch on the amount of times that I've gotten sexual comments. It's always gross and uncomfortable. Sometimes it just lasts during champ select where a guy's like "Hey baby, why don't you tell me your kik," but there have been several times when guys have done this to me throughout the entire match. One time I got a guy two games in a row who, for the entirety of both games, made comments about having sex with me while making moaning noises. Another time a guy who I friended after a game asked for my social media, saying that he bet "my body matched my voice." I told him I didn't want to give it to him because it made me uncomfortable. Every time I logged on he would ask me for it, and eventually I just blocked him. This is the kind of stuff every girl goes through, not just mercy players.

Most of the time I just laugh it off or joke along with them because I'm afraid of standing up for myself. In the past when I've seen other girls speak up guys will say that they're overreacting or getting too offended or being "triggered." I think this is part of the whole, "toughen up" mentality that's been circulating throughout the internet lately, it's the idea that people can be mean and that other's should just learn to deal with it and stop complaining, that it's the nature of online interaction for guys to act this way. I think that part of this came from the whole gamergate thing, where gamers were accused of being sexist and they fought back against the accusation. I don't think gamers are sexist, again, most of my time in voice is positive, but I don't think that it's wrong to point out sexism or just general doucheyness when someone sees it. One time a guy actually did stand up for me when this was going on, but he got accused of "white-knighting." I think that phrase is a load of shit and that people use it as a deflect when they get called out for being assholes.

One of my favorite streamers is TimtheTatman, he's a seriously funny dude. But the reaction that people have when a girl shows up in his game makes me want to vomit. It starts off with the endless parade of "GRILL" comments. Then the others come, "another girl mercy LUL" "hah girls can only play healer," "Tim ask for her kik".

For the rest of the game that girl's every move will be scrutinized. If she makes a mistake and dies with rez she gets flamed. If she doesn't heal Tim and he dies she gets flamed.

It doesn't help that Tim just dislikes mercy as a character so he'll sometimes talk shit because of that. It pissed me off immensely a few weeks ago when a mercy was carrying the game but he gave her shit because she died with rez once. I heard him call a girl a whore (not to her but still on stream) and chat went wild over it. A few days ago there was a girl mercy on stream who couldn't play any other healers. Now, this isn't good, when you get to a higher elo it's best to try to learn extra characters so you can switch if you need to, but she DID switch to Lucio and wasn't doing well on him. Tim and chat made fun of her because of everyone's idea that he's an easy hero (he's really not).

This isn't me trying to hate on Tim. I get that everyone gets frustrated in game and that the persona he shows on stream is largely for entertainment because he know's it's funny. I also get that chat is full of trolls and people who just join in with the crowd because they think it's silly, but it just hurts to be a girl watching and seeing everyone say things like that. It's not just in Tim's stream, it's really in any stream where there's a girl. I remember during a hearthstone tournament there was a female interviewer, and the entire time she was speaking chat was spamming comments about her body. Same deal with female casters. Like, yes people joke and yes people make fun of guys too, but what am I supposed to feel sitting there and watching this happen? I don't know.

I honestly feel bad for every girl that finds herself on a guy's stream. Maybe less so the ones who choose to because they know what they're getting into, I'm talking about the ones who just queue up for a game and wind up in another streamer's match with chat constantly talking shit about her. I hit masters last week and it's honestly become a fear of mine that that this might happen to me. Pathetic? Maybe. Egotistical? Sure. The odds of me running into a streamer are low, especially one who's popular. I probably won't ever make it beyond low masters so it's very unlikely, but every time I watch a stream and see stuff like this happen to a girl I can't help but put myself in their shoes and think that it could be me.

Yes, many girls play mercy. Ok fine, most girls play mercy. You know something? Most guys play dps. In fact, if I remember correctly, a few weeks ago a Redditor released a poll that showed that most guys play genji and hanzo, and that sounds about right to me. You wanna talk about female mercies, how many games have you had with 4 dps and a roadhog? How many games have you had when the junkrat wouldn't swap to tank? How many of those players do you think were guys? Both genders have preferences, it just so happens that there aren't that many girls who play overwatch so the trends are more apparent for them when they show up.

I don't like entering a game with a target immediately put on my back. I don't like feeling anxiety and wondering if I should speak early on so people get used to me being a girl or wait until the middle of the match so they're less likely to comment on it. I don't like coughing and trying to deepen my voice in order to sound less feminine. I don't like knowing that in some way I'm contributing to a stereotype that people make fun of and wondering if I should feel guilty about that.

If you're in a game and have a girl mercy on your team, please consider how she might feel before you say anything. What you run into from time to time and feel like commenting on just this once, she gets constantly. Stuff likes this makes girls wonder if it's worth using a mic or if they should just communicate by typing. I personally will continue speaking, but I know girls who don't anymore because they hated how guys would treat them. There have been days when I wanted to play ranked but just decided not to because of how much of a chore it can be to be a girl in a game while using your voice.

Am I exaggerating or overreacting? Do I have a point? Have you guys noticed what I've noticed during Twitch streams? Maybe there are girls in here who can relate to what I've experienced, or maybe there are guys who go through something similar who would like to share. Let me know, and thanks for reading.

I swear to god I literally read this exact post on one of the Overwatch subreddits. Right down to the TimTheTatMan stuff.

I never could get into Mercy. I ended up playing her quite a bit for lootboxes during the Uprising event because I solo-q and didn't want to trust other randoms, but Zen was always my favorite heals, which made the All Heroes mode great. Also, I got the Tracer, Mercy, and Genji skins. But no Widow! Can't wait for the skin-trading system they've mentioned to go live.

I tend to avoid comp. Too try-hard-y for me. I play games to have fun, not to get REEEE'd at by some moron who thinks he knows better. But you'll find these people everywhere. I always say hi in voice to see if anyone says anything back. I love shooting the shit with people in game. I play so much better that way. Sombra is bae of all baes, and the reason I actually bought the game, and I get screamed at way more for my Sombra pick than I ever do for being a girl. The less creative ones do eventually tend to default to referring me by my gender, but I'm so desensitized to these kinds of insults that I just don't respond to them. If they're really insistent, I'll mute him and ask others to mute him too so he doesn't distract the team too much. It's just something easy for them to pick up on and mock you for, and it does bother most people (for some reason), so they get responses and then keep doing it. Assholes will do anything to drag people down to their level so they don't feel bad for sucking so much. There really isn't a way to fix or avoid it. Much like fixing and avoiding any other douchbags in life.

My favorite group to play with is this group of guys who insist I am a hot girl and that I sound like Siri (I am neither) who I met in QP once upon a time. They also sometimes call me mom for some reason. The other day they were telling me about how the night before one of them got arrested in a bar fight, while another jumped down a flight of stairs after taking a bunch of extasy at a party. Both stories were pretty funny and a couple of us were in hysterics during play by the end of their stories. They are completely dudebros I would avoid irl, but when I play with them they always sound like they're just drunkenly ribbing on me the same way they're bitching at McBarFight for getting arrested. I've never felt threatened or discouraged by them. We play pretty well together and win together more than we lose. And we always leave on good terms with each other.

What I'm saying is that presentation matters. Sure, they say some things that might have bothered other women, what with being "hot girl" all the time (my playertag isn't an English word and they can't remember how to pronounce it when drunk). But they, particularly, don't bother me at all. I'm totally okay with what they do and say, and they don't push beyond that. I give them shit all the time, too. It's just what this particular group does. Different people have different lines. Yes, some people are just being sexist anusbags who are trying to make you feel miserable. These guys aren't those guys. I came across them by chance. The only thing you can control is how you respond, and if it bothers you so much, your response should be mute & block. There isn't much more you or anyone else can do.

 

[ERROR_ENTRY]

Played comp for the first time in three weeks. First game I play, a guy on our team started mic spamming 'worst tank ever' constantly to another guy on the team. Turns out, they played together previously and lost, so of course they were continuously flaming each other the rest of the match. And we lost of course.

Second game I play, a guy on our team leaves within a minute of the game starting. After that, I remembered why I stopped playing comp in the first place and went back to quickplay.

 

[GV 998]

[HUGE FUCKING POST].

You want to know why girls/women get hate in online games? A lot of times it has nothing to do with who you're playing as. A lot of times it simply has to do with the fact that you're a member of the opposite sex and a good deal of online players are men with little to no social lives. You, being a woman, represent what they have been denied for years (a female companion), and your presence in their escape from reality pisses them off.

Of course, there are several ways that these type of men react to your presence. The first I explained, with aggression to your presence. This can result in them making jokes like "make me a sandwich, bitch", stuff like that.

Sometimes they take a passive aggressive route, by criticizing your performance in the game (in some cases, criticizing before anything has even happened)

Some will look at you as an opportunity, because hey, gamer girl, and will try to subtly, or more likely, NOT SO subtly hit on you.

There's nothing wrong with playing Mercy, the hate your getting goes a bit deeper than something as simple as that.

There's really nothing to be done though, I mean unless you want to not talk and have people just assume you're a guy. It's not fair, you should be able to talk and co-ordinate with the rest of the team and not be immediately judged by your gender. But lonely nerds/NEETs/incels/Nice Guys are a part of life and a good deal of them play Overwatch (some of them are just their because of their waifus. Maybe that's why some of them are mad at you. Because Mercy is their waifu and you are 3DPD, as they like to say). They're not going away.

So, my advice to you would be to just ignore anything hateful they say. Just go on as if they hadn't said anything. (If you really wanna get under their skin, don't acknowledge ANYTHING they say, insult or otherwise. Only address your other teammates) .Either they will give up or will keep talking shit, but the other members of your team will get sick of hearing their shit REAL FAST and tell him to shut the fuck up and play the game. Some of them will be white-knighting you, of course, but some people are generally just there to have fun and they don't care who they're playing with.

 

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Apologies for necro'ing this thread but...

...so I was going through my backlog of games and one of them has been Overwatch. Now, I got this game Day One, but due to a combination of probably playing other games at the time, plus my work schedule which will sometimes see me working for weeks straight with only about 2-3 hours of downtime in a day, this game has been sitting in its box. I honestly can't recall if I've even played a single match yet.

That said, now a year in, is there any reason why I should consider getting into this game, or has the fandom taken ahold and there is no entry-level players left. I hate to trade-in a game I've never even gotten to play, but I'd rather do that than waste time being eviscerated and having my soul crushed repeatedly. I got work for that.

 

[Medici]

Apologies for necro'ing this thread but...

...so I was going through my backlog of games and one of them has been Overwatch. Now, I got this game Day One, but due to a combination of probably playing other games at the time, plus my work schedule which will sometimes see me working for weeks straight with only about 2-3 hours of downtime in a day, this game has been sitting in its box. I honestly can't recall if I've even played a single match yet.

That said, now a year in, is there any reason why I should consider getting into this game, or has the fandom taken ahold and there is no entry-level players left. I hate to trade-in a game I've never even gotten to play, but I'd rather do that than waste time being eviscerated and having my soul crushed repeatedly. I got work for that.

There's no real "fandom", the game is fucking massive. IIRC it's one of the most sold games of all time in less than a year. It's a very casual game with a large following so there's a bunch of new/low level players and there always will be. Especially on free weekends, there's no reason to not play it. Same goes for high tier players, there's a lot of good people playing the game too if you ever decide to try competitive out. Btw for a lot of people (including me) they usually play in small doses. It wouldn't hurt to try it out really.

Also there's no real problem necro'ing a thread if what you have to say is relevant and actually pushes the conversation forward.

 

[Hui]

Apologies for necro'ing this thread but...

...so I was going through my backlog of games and one of them has been Overwatch. Now, I got this game Day One, but due to a combination of probably playing other games at the time, plus my work schedule which will sometimes see me working for weeks straight with only about 2-3 hours of downtime in a day, this game has been sitting in its box. I honestly can't recall if I've even played a single match yet.

That said, now a year in, is there any reason why I should consider getting into this game, or has the fandom taken ahold and there is no entry-level players left. I hate to trade-in a game I've never even gotten to play, but I'd rather do that than waste time being eviscerated and having my soul crushed repeatedly. I got work for that.

You play it to get shitty costumes but you never do cause loot system is shit and gold guns.