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What are your expectations for the EU5 release?

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If there is a mod that replaces the UI I will get EU5 then. I really do not like the vic3 type UI scheming going on here. Its way too saturated and way too much.
 
Professor Donger said:
What countries do you guys think are going to be gutted in EU5?
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Well, they have obstinately refused to recognize that other Mississippian city-states existed outside of Cahokia, so I am going to go with all the American native states.
 
While Im cautiously optimistic for EU5, the gameplay footage that was released has me thinking about something that paradox games have been struggling with since CK3's release. Why is the music so...sudued now? These current-decade paradox games have all seemed to take an approach to their musical scores that they are meant to kinda sit in the background and play the same moody but uninsipring track for long stretches at a time. Can we have our awesome, dynamic single tracks back, please? EU4's soundtrack would get me pumped when those more bombastic tracks hit during certain moments of gameplay. EU5 (at least from that clip) sounds like it has a soundtrack for a city builder.
 
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WarrenZHarding said:
While Im cautiously optimistic for EU5, the gameplay footage that was release has me thinking about something that paradox games have been struggling with since CK3's release. Why is the music so...sudued now? These current-decade paradox games have all seemed to take an approach to their musical scores that they are meant to kinda sit in the background and play the same moody but uninsipring track for long stretches at a time. Can we have our awesome, dynamic single tracks back, please? EU4's soundtrack would get me pumped when those more bombastic tracks hit during certain moments of gameplay. EU5 (at least from that clip) sounds like it had a soundtrack for a city builder.
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There is "Pain is Salvation" but that is about it.
 
WarrenZHarding said:
While Im cautiously optimistic for EU5, the gameplay footage that was released has me thinking about something that paradox games have been struggling with since CK3's release. Why is the music so...sudued now? These current-decade paradox games have all seemed to take an approach to their musical scores that they are meant to kinda sit in the background and play the same moody but uninsipring track for long stretches at a time. Can we have our awesome, dynamic single tracks back, please? EU4's soundtrack would get me pumped when those more bombastic tracks hit during certain moments of gameplay. EU5 (at least from that clip) sounds like it has a soundtrack for a city builder.
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The Hoi4 nazi expansion had some bangers
 
The direction of Stellaris is bizarre. The players have been demanding a politics rework for nearly a decade now. Instead, we've gotten
>Astral Rifts
>Cosmic Storms
>Grand Archive

Each DLC introduces balance-breaking features which trivialize gameplay to the point you want to turn them off. Astral rifts adds relics and modifiers dependent on choosing the right choice in a RPG-style option menu which invites minmaxing because there's always one good outcome and a bunch of bad ones. Cosmic storms add planet modifiers which you can specialize a planet around while the AI can't (the big drawback of the GPM mod). Grand Archive adds a bunch of artifacts which make you way stronger without appropriate justification or trade off.

It's nice how active the custodian team is in adding content to paid DLC, but the direction of the game itself is lacking. I read they're contracting studios to develop the Q3/Q4 DLCs (as opposed to the big Q1/Q2 DLC like Machine Age and Biomorphosis) which might explain this.
 
WarrenZHarding said:
EU4's soundtrack would get me pumped when those more bombastic tracks hit during certain moments of gameplay. EU5 (at least from that clip) sounds like it has a soundtrack for a city builder.
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It's been the opposite experience for me. Of all the old soundtracks from when EU4 released, the only one that really stuck out to me was the menu theme, and that's just because it was harder to ignore than the others. EU4's ost to me was generally uninspired, either as a period sample or as a good strategy listening. The first soundtrack that prominently featured harpsichords in a game set during the height of European art music was the Castle of Versailles, which was released as part of Domination in 2024 - over a decade since the game's launch (I guess you could say Alba did briefly but half of it makes me feel like I'm playing a fantasy rpg, not a strategy game). In general the soundtracks I see people talk the most about in EU4 that aren't very out of place heavy metal or some Scandinavian drunkenly singing all came in the later half of the game's lifecycle. I like that EU5's ost, what's been released at least, involves more harmonies and somber music, as it's a decent change of pace from EU4's generally scattershot ost.

That said, none of Paradox's osts have surpassed CK2 to this day.
 
WarrenZHarding said:
While Im cautiously optimistic for EU5, the gameplay footage that was released has me thinking about something that paradox games have been struggling with since CK3's release. Why is the music so...sudued now? These current-decade paradox games have all seemed to take an approach to their musical scores that they are meant to kinda sit in the background and play the same moody but uninsipring track for long stretches at a time. Can we have our awesome, dynamic single tracks back, please? EU4's soundtrack would get me pumped when those more bombastic tracks hit during certain moments of gameplay. EU5 (at least from that clip) sounds like it has a soundtrack for a city builder.
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Andreas Waldetoft did all the music for the main paradox games for well over a decade. He left a couple years ago and speaking for Stellaris at least the music has gone from goat tier iconic to slop tier with him gone. He probably was not involved in eu5 music at all which is why it's mostly bland and soulless. They've also switched over to some complicated Wwise status based system which counts how many clicks you make per minute and decides what portions of its "soundtrack" to play. I don't know the specifics but I do know back in the day Total War switched over to wwise for rome 2 and overnight total war music went from simple drop and play like we have for PDX games now to essentially impossible to even add music mods. It would be a catastrophe if EU5 follows suit. I guess we'll see.
 
Computer God Autism said:
It's been the opposite experience for me. Of all the old soundtracks from when EU4 released, the only one that really stuck out to me was the menu theme, and that's just because it was harder to ignore than the others. EU4's ost to me was generally uninspired, either as a period sample or as a good strategy listening. The first soundtrack that prominently featured harpsichords in a game set during the height of European art music was the Castle of Versailles, which was released as part of Domination in 2024 - over a decade since the game's launch (I guess you could say Alba did briefly but half of it makes me feel like I'm playing a fantasy rpg, not a strategy game). In general the soundtracks I see people talk the most about in EU4 that aren't very out of place heavy metal or some Scandinavian drunkenly singing all came in the later half of the game's lifecycle. I like that EU5's ost, what's been released at least, involves more harmonies and somber music, as it's a decent change of pace from EU4's generally scattershot ost.

That said, none of Paradox's osts have surpassed CK2 to this day.
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I really like Distress as well, but maybe that is because I love bombastic music. I did just listen to Castle of Versailles for the first time because of your comment and it is honestly the best song in EU4.
 
Computer God Autism said:
It's been the opposite experience for me. Of all the old soundtracks from when EU4 released, the only one that really stuck out to me was the menu theme, and that's just because it was harder to ignore than the others. EU4's ost to me was generally uninspired, either as a period sample or as a good strategy listening. The first soundtrack that prominently featured harpsichords in a game set during the height of European art music was the Castle of Versailles, which was released as part of Domination in 2024 - over a decade since the game's launch (I guess you could say Alba did briefly but half of it makes me feel like I'm playing a fantasy rpg, not a strategy game). In general the soundtracks I see people talk the most about in EU4 that aren't very out of place heavy metal or some Scandinavian drunkenly singing all came in the later half of the game's lifecycle. I like that EU5's ost, what's been released at least, involves more harmonies and somber music, as it's a decent change of pace from EU4's generally scattershot ost.

That said, none of Paradox's osts have surpassed CK2 to this day.
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Just play with Kaira's soundtrack or whatever it's called. Mod.

Übertroon said:
The Hoi4 nazi expansion had some bangers
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This really has fuck all to do with it, but I'll plug this song:

I like it. I actually liked it more BEFORE I caught on that it was sampling the different national songs, but it tells a coherent story with its music and is beautiful at the end.

It could ALMOST fit in a Paradox game. Not in the base game, but in a mod.
 
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