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What are your expectations for the EU5 release?


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What are your thoughts on this discussion on whether slavery should be added to CK3? - https://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/1srrq3d/no_slaver_path_has_me_tweaking_out/
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Anyway, slavery is already in CK3, as mentioned in raiding events. The slave trade? Maybe? It isn't a good in the same way a lot of things are, and the implementation in other games tends to be buying and selling of pops, which CK3 can't really do, as it doesn't have pops. Maybe with their development change to settlement size and prosperity, they could use slavery to boost settlement size growth?
 
CK3 should add things CK2 already had and are sorely missing first
They're pulling the Sims maneuver. Pets and seasons should be mandatory but yet they're DLC, and not the first one to drop either.

The fact they added a fucking subscription service is nuts. They know they're known for making a fuckload of dlc and now they've gone beyond just season passes.
 
What are your thoughts on this discussion on whether slavery should be added to CK3?
Maybe they should focus on actually creating some Christian content for the game in Crusader Kings. Though speaking of slavery I wish it played some sort of role in CK2 (other than a super minute event that happens if the childrens crusade is lost I think?), maybe the islamic states having an arab slave trade or something going on like they do irl would have been a decent concept. Either way I think it would turn into a huge mess of retarded opinions and drama if it were added in any serious capacity.
 
I still dont understand how slavery works in eu5. I cant seam to actually take slaves and keep them.
All in explanations of how to increase population with slavery includes some bs workarounds with diabling building and stuff
 
Maybe they should focus on actually creating some Christian content for the game in Crusader Kings. Though speaking of slavery I wish it played some sort of role in CK2 (other than a super minute event that happens if the childrens crusade is lost I think?), maybe the islamic states having an arab slave trade or something going on like they do irl would have been a decent concept. Either way I think it would turn into a huge mess of retarded opinions and drama if it were added in any serious capacity.
Trade republics and playable theocracies including reworks to the The Papacy in CK3 have been revealed recently:


Edit: Catholicism is about to get a big rework with apparantly loads of Italian flavour content and the ability to become pope. They are finally refocusing on Western Europe. I excite.
 
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The Czech DLC seems to be going over better than I expected. I still think that $6 is highway robbery for just a focus tree and 2 music tracks. You would think they’d have at least included some new models.
 
The Czech DLC seems to be going over better than I expected. I still think that $6 is highway robbery for just a focus tree and 2 music tracks. You would think they’d have at least included some new models.
Some people are upset that Paradox announced that there would be a Slovakia focus tree (as well as one for Czechoslovakia) but that was walked back.

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A question for the EUV players, Is Portugal still an ideal nation to play for a first game to get a handle on the mechanics while being able to do a bit of everything and generally being left alone?
 
A question for the EUV players, Is Portugal still an ideal nation to play for a first game to get a handle on the mechanics while being able to do a bit of everything and generally being left alone?
No. EUV Portugal has a scripted civil war that's highly likely to start (if you chose historical options), and a guaranteed earthquake that will ruin the Lisboa province soon after. In addition, Portugal is poor as fuck to start with, which means your colonisation drive is going to be really slow. (Though it's ideal for challenge runs for people who want to see if they can recreate the Portuguese snowball). The only upside is that Tinto finally hardcoded a friendship bonus between Castille and Portugal so you aren't just praying to RNG that Castille doesn't rival you at game start.

I'd say the game's new tutorial nation is Hungary. You start as a fairly self sufficient state, got gold mines to help you along and plenty of avenues to expand. Even if you mind your own business, you're rich and strong enough that nobody will wardec you outright for at least the first hundred years.
 
A question for the EUV players, Is Portugal still an ideal nation to play for a first game to get a handle on the mechanics while being able to do a bit of everything and generally being left alone?
A decently sized Italian country like Milan/Venice/Naples or the Ottomans are good options as they have easy sources of claims from their respective situations (Guelphs and Ghibellines/Rise of the Turks) so you can use your parliaments to do other things like experimenting with different laws, increasing tax on estates for an economy boost, or getting additional levies to make early wars easier. It's also just fun to blob fast.
 
Is China a good starting area? It seems like it would be fun to play through as somebody not good at the game, but boring to play as when you actually figure the game out.
 
I still dont understand how slavery works in eu5. I cant seam to actually take slaves and keep them.
All in explanations of how to increase population with slavery includes some bs workarounds with diabling building and stuff
Given that this was the time period of the largest, most sustained slave revolt in history, that at its height had established a functioning state in Mesopotamia, I’d say it should be in as a full mechanic.

Slaves as a stock of capital that decays, how much so depending on law (Muslims gelded their slaves). Religious law interaction. It’s not even just Muslims, Vikings slave traded, Anglo saxons were like a third slave. Is just the capital version of raiding loot
 
You would think they’d have at least included some new models.
Forget models, in some places they didn't even bother with new icons FFS. You can unlock CZ as an MIO and the first choice is box magazines vs drum mags, so naturally for icons they chose a literal wooden box and what I'm fairly sure is normally the fucking depth charge icon:
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Of course it gets even fucking dumber because the next choice is what caliber do you want your new guns in, 9mm or 45mm. Not .45 ACP but fucking 45mm:
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I'm fully against the bullshit of selling a single focus tree at any price, let alone for a fucking fiver, but if you're going to ream people (not to mention pulling the bait and switch on Slovakia) the least you could do is put in more than the absolute fucking bare minimum of effort. Even the Paradox forum release thread is full of people pointing out the many fuckups with Czech spellings and shit.
 
A question for the EUV players, Is Portugal still an ideal nation to play for a first game to get a handle on the mechanics while being able to do a bit of everything and generally being left alone?
Sweden is a good nation to play if you want to left alone and learn the mechanics
Has good RGOs and has relatively easy expansion routes once you consolidate
 
Forget models, in some places they didn't even bother with new icons FFS. You can unlock CZ as an MIO and the first choice is box magazines vs drum mags, so naturally for icons they chose a literal wooden box and what I'm fairly sure is normally the fucking depth charge icon:
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Of course it gets even fucking dumber because the next choice is what caliber do you want your new guns in, 9mm or 45mm. Not .45 ACP but fucking 45mm:
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I'm fully against the bullshit of selling a single focus tree at any price, let alone for a fucking fiver, but if you're going to ream people (not to mention pulling the bait and switch on Slovakia) the least you could do is put in more than the absolute fucking bare minimum of effort. Even the Paradox forum release thread is full of people pointing out the many fuckups with Czech spellings and shit.
Can Paradox just stop making hoi4 dlcs, please? It's embarrassing, like they don't even bother to try anymore.
 
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