Pitch: Women's Only App Enforced by 3rd Party ID Verification

[community member]

I really don't think there's a point in trying to do subtle psyops especially when sex verification is required to enter. The cover is already blown at that point. Men trying to destroy things is a fact of life that can only be dealt with head on

eta, if the idea here is the subtle psyop is supposed to replace sex verification then no it won't work

 

[Dilligaff]

Just wanted to say that I would be interested in such a space, as troons have pushed me out of a few supposedly women-only online spaces. That's not to say I don't enjoy mixed spaces - I mean I've been here forever, but it would be nice to have a place for just us ladies.

Not sure about the ID verification thing. I'll have to ponder that some more. I do trust Null for whatever that's worth

 

[Apustajan apustaja]

I think a lot of countries let you change birth sex on your ID, I'm pretty sure I could do it (in minecraft) in three weeks and for 50€. (Not that I would). It might be harder to verify sex online than one would think. AI face recognition might work better. Anyway good luck and sorry for interupting.

 

[Richard Cheese]

I would love to have a female-only space, but I would never trust it enough to dox myself. All it takes is one aggrieved tech tranny at the verification company to intercept the ID information and potentially dox the entire userbase. Sure, you could sue the company for breach of contract or whatever, but that wouldn't undo the catastrophic damage done to those women's lives. Normies wouldn't want to join a service associated with the Evil Doxing Site Kiwi Farms Which Has Driven Three People To Suicide and many Kiwisisters wouldn't be willing to submit their ID, so who would your customers be?

Also, Giggle is supposedly relaunching soon (hopefully in the US or in some conservative country where discriminating against troons is legal; I hope Sall isn't retarded enough to try to keep it in Australia). Giggle has an air of legitimacy that the Farms will never be afforded, as do sites like Mumsnet and Ovarit. Maybe your time would be better spent quietly helping them. I appreciate your desire to support women but your reputation will always create problems for any venture you are publicly involved with.

Ovarit requires an invitation code and tracks who invited each account, so if a tranny infiltrates they can ban both the tranny and the retard who invited them. There are private gender critical discords that require prospective members to be interviewed over voice chat to verify that they are female. (Voice changing software may be an issue. I don't know if it has become advanced enough to fool people.)

Maybe the best option would be to create a female-only area on the Farms, using the above methods to verify users, and if it becomes popular enough you can revisit the app idea.

P.S. You CANNOT allow pooners. Pooners are still trannies, and trannies are only capable of destruction.

 

[Male Idiot]

Ovarit requires an invitation code and tracks who invited each account, so if a tranny infiltrates they can ban both the tranny and the retard who invited them. There are private gender critical discords that require prospective members to be interviewed over voice chat to verify that they are female. (Voice changing software may be an issue. I don't know if it has become advanced enough to fool people.)

Not going to lie, that is a smart idea in general that some torrent sites use to sniff out glowies.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

Null, posting in the women section's off-topic board: Women, what do you think?
Men: There is no potential benefit or market for a women's only space. You are being hysterical.

Look man, I'm just legitimately stupid and wanted to know the reason women would want this and turns out it was troons being troons. Like, I don't buy clothes off Amazon, very few of my interests bleed over into the women's spaces, and all my knitting community interaction is the thread I made and downloading free patterns, so it's not really a thing I've personally run into a lot.
I think a women only club is a great idea and here's hoping it works out.

 

[Executive Petrel]

Hee Hee, give me your Data, trust me, goyls.

It's a honeypot for so called terfs

 

[community member]

and all my knitting community interaction is the thread I made and downloading free patterns

this website fucking kills me

turns out it was troons being troons men being men

ftfy by the way

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

this website fucking kills me

Way back ten million years ago, Ravelry (the biggest knitting website bar none) banned Trump supporting patterns and discussion, and then essentially everyone sperged the fuck out. Then it turned out the owner or the owner’s husband or boyfriend or whatever was a troon and the forums, of which I never visited, were and probably still are completely fucking crazy about poz shit.
It’s like there were two separate worlds, the marketplace and the forums. The marketplace is fine, still the best for finding any pattern you would want with a really solid advanced search feature. The forums on the other hand, just scroll through the thread and it’s pure insanity.
Reddit isn’t horrible these days, but really on the main sub it’s just people posting finished projects and sometimes you find a real weirdo modeling a basic jumper and being generally creepy.
Oh, and tons of fags. Just tons of them, everywhere you look on Reddit knitting subs.

 

[Pips Star]

This is an awesome idea, and I'd love to help in any way I could. Basing inclusion on chromosomes so that trans "men" are eligible is something some of us girls discussed after the Giggle ruling. As as for ID, most people have access to their original birth certificate ( not a later certified copy that may have been changed): I'd be happy to provide that based on a disappearing validation mechanism. As for filtering out male interests, agreed, but for many MTFs, the point is to barge into the most female of areas and subjects: no area of my life as a woman is now safe, from my interest in flower embroidery to waiting with my bra off to get a mammogram.

 

[AnOminous]

-Your users ID would be in a database.

He already explained why that's not the case at all in the OP. Unless the third party verification service was staffed with bad actors, the site itself would never have the identification.

I would love to have a female-only space, but I would never trust it enough to dox myself. All it takes is one aggrieved tech tranny at the verification company to intercept the ID information and potentially dox the entire userbase.

That's the real worry, that a bad actor somewhere else would compromise the information.

 

[Null]

He already explained why that's not the case at all in the OP. Unless the third party verification service was staffed with bad actors, the site itself would never have the identification.

you're talking to an anime avatar, not a real person. he read the title and his brain short circuited into reply mode because nothing jumped out making kawaii faces at him. this is why it's hard to keep a site like this quality. we have a forum where nobody fucking reads.

 

[Justtocheck]

to waiting with my bra off to get a mammogram.

You gave me an idea.

So ID submition is problematic, and AI voice recognition would work, is doable and would be able to clock even the best falsetto, but the thing would be seven and up figures in development. Machine learning works but is super expensive. Those are problems.

How about if for joining, the user would have to submit OBGYN test results, that only XX chromosomic women can do. Nothing too intrusive, just enough to prove that yes, you are a woman and you have a real womb. Maybe submit a mammogram or two other tests, that are signed by a reputable and known doctor/service/hospital? Trannies would try to forge them, of course, but it would not be as easy, and doing this would eliminate most of the rabble that is lazy by definition (like most troons). Perhpaps it's worth to investigate through that route.

I think many woman would rather submit a medical report with redacted details, than their ID. It's just an idea.

 

[Squishie PP]

Maybe ban discussion of gaming to ward off trannies? I feel like the honor system would work just fine if the site has an explicitly anti trans stance and forbids the support of trannies.

Maybe the more fragile retarded ones would be warded off, but trannies looove conducting online influence operations.

 

[Lidl Drip]

You gave me an idea.

So ID submition is problematic, and AI voice recognition would work, is doable and would be able to clock even the best falsetto, but the thing would be seven and up figures in development. Machine learning works but is super expensive. Those are problems.

How about if for joining, the user would have to submit OBGYN test results, that only XX chromosomic women can do. Nothing too intrusive, just enough to prove that yes, you are a woman and you have a real womb. Maybe submit a mammogram or two other tests, that are signed by a reputable and known doctor/service/hospital? Trannies would try to forge them, of course, but it would not be as easy, and doing this would eliminate most of the rabble that is lazy by definition (like most troons). Perhpaps it's worth to investigate through that route.

I think many woman would rather submit a medical report with redacted details, than their ID. It's just an idea.

If we're gonna go this route we may as well send in our used tampons or write out our usernames in period blood. Come on.

 

[Justtocheck]

If we're gonna go this route we may as well send in our used tampons or write out our usernames in period blood. Come on.

Hey, It's just an idea to get rid of the non-honest woman. Unless Null can hire a small team of non-troon aligned machine learning engineers and more a million dollars in funding, the voice sniffing A.I. isn't going to work (this method would be great imo). I understand that posting medical tests is sensitive info, but details can be redacted to avoid sharing too much. It's better than getting the user base ID doxed by a tech tranny.

 

[Titted Biscuits]

How about if for joining, the user would have to submit OBGYN test results, that only XX chromosomic women can do.

I'm sad to say that troons who cut their dicks off do sometimes go to an OBGYN to make someone check out their crotch wound as if it were a real vagina. And they complain if this does't happen. You'd think it would be the one safe place but apparently nowhere is off limits to them.

It needs to be called something to ward off trannies and men so perhaps something like "wrinkle" since they are disgusted by the thought of a woman who is over 25. They will be like "Wrinkle?? Eewww!! I identify as a hawt teenage girl only!"

I think this is the best idea. It should sound as if it's for post-menopausal women to discuss knitting and cleaning tips (something alien to them). The only thing that might attract them is the potential topic of HRT.

 

[Null]

Hey, It's just an idea to get rid of the non-honest woman. Unless Null can hire a small team of non-troon aligned machine learning engineers and more a million dollars in funding, the voice sniffing A.I. isn't going to work (this method would be great imo). I understand that posting medical tests is sensitive info, but details can be redacted to avoid sharing too much. It's better than getting the user base ID doxed by a tech tranny.

are you being deliberately obtuse and retarded and fucking gay? these id verification systems are $1 per id.

 

[Lil' Hog]

(...) Maybe the best option would be to create a female-only area on the Farms, using the above methods to verify users, and if it becomes popular enough you can revisit the app idea.

Yeah, I think this is solid.

Start small and see if it gains popularity with the kiwisisters. It'll be easier to fieldtest all those gatekeeping ideas when moids, troons and bad actors are trying to get in.

And if does work, it'll be so much easier to populate a brand new site when you know a decent-sized userbase actually exist to migrate to it.
If not? At least you didn't waste much time and effort building something that would only be used by Mary_ann842 and KAWAII_TROONKWEEN.

 

[candlejack]

Maybe submit a mammogram or two other tests, that are signed by a reputable and known doctor/service/hospital?

This is actually hilarious. Do you know any women in real life?