Plurals / Clusters / Systems - Pronouns: we / us / ours

[Shitted Scaredless]

I'm usually pretty good at understanding the plural jargon, but I can't wrap my head around what the fuck this even means. Can someone translate for a poor ol' eneducated singlet like me?

Splitting an alter who is internally the same age as the body, as opposed to say, a child or teen alter.

 

[a pissing jar]

Has anyone heard of "A Couple of Multiples"? They feel like a DissociaDID clone from the blurriest looks of it.
...or what DissociaDID and Team Pinata could have been/wanted to be...

Spoiler: LITTLES IN FRONT!!!

Littles love to take over when ordering food at restaurants! Having fun with a trio of multiples! @keechmft.bsky.social
(it wont let me upload the video on here sorry)

Spoiler: "Other BlueSky Screenshots"

 

[a pissing jar]

don't trust left wing twitter with mental disorders they turn into games

 

[OrSoHelpMe]

Splitting an alter who is internally the same age as the body, as opposed to say, a child or teen alter.

It sounds like they’re saying the night before their birthday they split an alter the age they’re turning, while the current alter might stay the age they were.

If this were hypothetically real, someone might have been badly, repeatedly tortured/traumatized every year on their birthday and have formed a post traumatic dissociative reaction where they dissociate so badly that they compartmentalized every year older into a new dissociative state.

But a person who had been tortured as a small child on their birthday to the point of intense dissociative reactions to their birthday as an adult would have a lot more symptoms to deal with, would be working to dismantle the trigger and dissociative reaction out of necessity as it is greatly interrupting their life, functioning, and ability to build a life before they’re 40, and really wouldn’t find it ha ha social media funny, it’s so quirky I split a new alter that’s 20 cuz I’m turning 20.

 

[UtopiaGuy]

I think a lot of these idiots need a heavy heaping helping of reality. "Okay, Jimmy, you have six different personalities, uh huh. Which one of them is gonna help make rent this month? 'Cause if the answer is none, all six of you are out on the fucking street and the end of the month."

 

[Frenzy of Sharks]

I feel like the lefty Pronouns things is finally coming to an end for the same reasons why the trench coat and fedora aesthetic for online atheists came to an end.

If you remember the Internet of the 2010's, one thing that everyone agreed was cringe at the time was the Reddit neckbeard atheist that wore a trench coat and fedora because the atheists at the time thought that made them look cool (this was when the Internet turned against the Atheist community because everyone found them annoying). This ruined the trench coat and the fedora hat for everyone else because the Atheist community made them cringe.

We're seeing a repeat with this now as everyone is sick and tired of Woke now. He/Him, She/Her, Other/Whatever, has become the trench coat and fedora of this decade as the Internet is so done with Woke now.

 

[Bothriolepis]

I think the DID diagnosis will be recycled to label BPD types who have fallen so deep into identity exploration/confusion that they’ve latched onto “systems”, are in some no man’s land of consciously faking but with somatic “DID symptoms”...

There's already a really high degree of overlap between diagnosed cases of Dissociative Identity Disorder and Borderline Personality Disorder, with some research showing a comorbidity rate as high as 70% in patients with DID. The relative rarity of DID in the general population and the fact that both conditions are usually linked to traumatic events during childhood (BPD  can develop without severe trauma, but it's uncommon) makes it hard to prove causation, but the idea makes intuitive sense.

With BPD, your sense of who you are can change dramatically based on your mood, how you believe others feel about you, or even what you're doing at the moment. There can be consistent patterns within that, though, that you revert to under similar situations. You might see yourself as outgoing and smart when you're in a good mood, loving and intimate when you're curled up on the couch with a romantic partner, or dependent and helpless when you're convinced that others look down on you. How dramatic that is, and the level of consistency that your self-image has in similar situations at different times, is going to vary based on both symptom severity and changing circumstances. It's not uncommon, though, to feel like you metaphorically become "someone else". Other symptoms, like irritability and impulsivity, can also contribute to that feeling by causing you to act in ways that you know are self-destructive or harmful to others, and the moderate to severe dissociative episodes common in BPD can be bad enough that you feel like you're watching yourself act out the role of a lunatic in a play. Nothing seems real, some of your thoughts don't feel like your own (even if you know that they are), and it's hard as hell to pull yourself out of it unless you've learned how to manage it through professional mental health treatment.

The need for a core sense of identity isn't really something that most people think about often, because they don't have to. It's only when they've gone through a life-altering crisis, or done something so terrible that it clashes with their sense of self, that an average person feels that sort of emptiness. If a person's interests, beliefs, and character traits were the planets in a solar system, BPD would be the result of interrupted stellar formation. Instead of having a star at the center to illuminate and warm the rest of it, you have a brown dwarf whose gravity sometimes isn't even strong enough to hold onto the cold, dark balls of ice and rock orbiting around it. Obviously a place like that is going to be completely lifeless and dull unless you can find something else to give it meaning. That's usually a close interpersonal relationship, which leads to the deeply unhealthy cycle of infatuation, terrified clinging, and eventual disillusionment most commonly associated with the disorder. It can be something else, though, like a career, community, hobby, or even a concept (especially religion or politics). The key commonality that all these things share is that they offer a delimited role that gives life an externally validated narrative meaning.

This is where Münchausen's comes in. Most people with BPD don't have Münchausen's, but many people with Münchausen's at least have Borderline traits. The sick role comes with a narrative (going from illness to a distant possible recovery) supported by others, who also give the patient sympathy and nurturance. For someone with BPD, the beliefs of others grant subjective truth to a narrative, making things "real" even if they're consciously aware that they're lying about the past, pretending to hold beliefs with no conviction, or in this case faking symptoms of an illness. DID, in particular, would be an easy role to fall into, since there's  some truth to the idea that they feel like several different people. Someone doing this wouldn't actually lack a sense of continuous personhood or experience amnesia while acting as "alters", and they would be knowingly lying about many of their symptoms, but their "alters" would be real in the sense that they were differing states of identity existing in different circumstances. This obviously doesn't  make the claim objectively true or even mean that the person would believe it, but there's a certain internal suspension of disbelief that allows the person to let the role fill the void where an identity grounded in reality should go.

In cases where they manage to simulate DID well enough to convince a mental health professional, they might even come to the conclusion that what they're experiencing really is DID. Obviously most of them aren't going to manage that, though.

 

[henstepl]

This might have been interesting to me... I gave it a read, and though I'm glad to learn its terminology, I was wrong to think I'd find someone like myself.

I'm Henstepl and I set fire to my psychiatrist office (big whoop.) However I then addressed disability with 1) self-devised pill regimens, 2) no antipsychotics ever and 3) a self-devised consciousness method, and that's all been an enormous success. And that "method" is vague as can be, unless I communicate it, but if you believe the method is extremely effective, I wonder if there are people who have discovered and employed it just the same as me.

Put it this way. Imagine you want to get in with a doctor so you can kick his ass, but first you have to make your way past a girly receptionist without making her cry.

What I would do is reach into the brain and change it, and talk to the girl without making her cry, and proceed, reaching into the brain and changing it until it is again kickass, and then kick the doctor's ass. No pills, just consciousness.

It really is as simple as that to someone with my knowledge, and if I do it enough times, and if they really are different wouldn't I be inclined to call these two by the name of "alters"?

Still, though...

None of these faggots fits the bill with me.

 

[everybody in Portugal]

This might have been interesting to me... I gave it a read, and though I'm glad to learn its terminology, I was wrong to think I'd find someone like myself.

I'm Henstepl and I set fire to my psychiatrist office (big whoop.) However I then addressed disability with 1) self-devised pill regimens, 2) no antipsychotics ever and 3) a self-devised consciousness method, and that's all been an enormous success. And that "method" is vague as can be, unless I communicate it, but if you believe the method is extremely effective, I wonder if there are people who have discovered and employed it just the same as me.

Put it this way. Imagine you want to get in with a doctor so you can kick his ass, but first you have to make your way past a girly receptionist without making her cry.

What I would do is reach into the brain and change it, and talk to the girl without making her cry, and proceed, reaching into the brain and changing it until it is again kickass, and then kick the doctor's ass. No pills, just consciousness.

It really is as simple as that to someone with my knowledge, and if I do it enough times, and if they really are different wouldn't I be inclined to call these two by the name of "alters"?

Still, though...

None of these faggots fits the bill with me.

No1curr dude. Talk about the thread subjects or gtfo back to your own thread. Clearly your self-treatment isn't working, since you have one here.

 

[Danann]

This might have been interesting to me... I gave it a read, and though I'm glad to learn its terminology, I was wrong to think I'd find someone like myself.

I'm Henstepl and I set fire to my psychiatrist office (big whoop.) However I then addressed disability with 1) self-devised pill regimens, 2) no antipsychotics ever and 3) a self-devised consciousness method, and that's all been an enormous success. And that "method" is vague as can be, unless I communicate it, but if you believe the method is extremely effective, I wonder if there are people who have discovered and employed it just the same as me.

Put it this way. Imagine you want to get in with a doctor so you can kick his ass, but first you have to make your way past a girly receptionist without making her cry.

What I would do is reach into the brain and change it, and talk to the girl without making her cry, and proceed, reaching into the brain and changing it until it is again kickass, and then kick the doctor's ass. No pills, just consciousness.

It really is as simple as that to someone with my knowledge, and if I do it enough times, and if they really are different wouldn't I be inclined to call these two by the name of "alters"?

Still, though...

None of these faggots fits the bill with me.

why are you still here?

 

[Bothriolepis]

This might have been interesting to me... I gave it a read, and though I'm glad to learn its terminology, I was wrong to think I'd find someone like myself.

If you want to find more people like yourself, your best bet is going to be checking into an inpatient psychiatric facility rather than setting it on fire.

 

[Shitted Scaredless]

If you want to find more people like yourself, your best bet is going to be checking into an inpatient psychiatric facility rather than setting it on fire.

Or just join tumblr.

 

[Crispy Pancake]

Mental illness Pokemon: Gotta Catch 'em All Headmates!

 

[Clostridium Botulinum]

Im in a local gaming club where there is a 16 year old "trans" kid who now identifies as plural.

He posted a community poll on our discord about what his new alter should be called. I'm 100% sure he got this in his head from the other members. The election caused at least 3 of them to DFE

 

[Biology Book]

Long time no see

Spoiler: necroneol

Spoiler: katetorias

Spoiler: Some sperging

Sometimes I just doubt what i make is good, maybe they are really mentally ill[ /SPOILER]

 

[Memory Card]

User fantasizes about child sex.

 

[Crispy Pancake]

Mental illness Pokemon: Gotta Catch 'em All Headmates!

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Meanwhile since then troonfat added more headmates. I guess this happens when a kid spergs about Mario not Sonic.

 

[Bigideas McTucker]

Meanwhile since then troonfat added more headmates.

Every time this thread gets bumped I fall a little further into the theory that DID is just made up. It was never real. Which isn't to say that every case ever was faked by the patient. More like the shoddy diagnosis of some hack canonizing the idea forever and more retards in labcoats misdiagnosing schizophrenics. Psychiatry has had large scandals involving systemic misdiagnosis.

I would be more inclined to believe any of these people really had voices in their heads if they didn't all look the same. In this faggot's attempt to make each of their totally originally characters different they have only managed to make them more similar. They're all fat. They're all some flavor of furfag or furfag adjacent. Putting Ronald Reagan in this list would've been more realistic.

 

[Crispy Pancake]

He larps as all these characters with emojis telling people which one is "fronting" and there are no distinct personality differences or behaviour. He adds more when he thinks of a new fetish character. His troonwife larps as plural too to dodge allegations of being close mates with Samael "So Sorry" Butterdragon who is part of a zoopaedo cult Floraverse. The larp is inspired by Puppychan blaming her "problematic" behavior on a headmate.

Yes of course they are vtubers.

 

[alogatog]

Every time this thread gets bumped I fall a little further into the theory that DID is just made up. It was never real. Which isn't to say that every case ever was faked by the patient. More like the shoddy diagnosis of some hack canonizing the idea forever and more retards in labcoats misdiagnosing schizophrenics. Psychiatry has had large scandals involving systemic misdiagnosis.

I mean, the brain is this immensely complex thing, and is already split into different sections (conscious, subconscious) and can be put into many different states (IE: derealization/depersonalization). It's not super crazy to imagine that given someone has enough immense trauma, they could periodically fall into some sort of derealized state, which is then filled in with some sort of alternative personality.
I remember hearing that in (real) cases of DID, it's often like a protection system. Something traumatic happens, and they mentally clock out, and some sort of alternate personality comes out. Alternatively, periodic delusional psychosis. Both are entirely reasonable to happen. Neither are pleasurable, i imagine

Spoiler: PLing / MATIing

As a first time reader/visitor of this thread, I'm glad to see it exists- as someone who's really danced with the devil in terms of fucked up mental shit, people playing like real, serious mental disorders are quirky need to be put down like dogs

His troonwife larps as plural too to dodge allegations of being close mates with Samael "So Sorry" Butterdragon who is part of a zoopaedo cult Floraverse. The larp is inspired by Puppychan blaming her "problematic" behavior on a headmate.

i think i had a stroke