Plymouth shooting: Multiple fatalities in Keyham

Extremely faggy question(s) with some powerlevelling ahead.

As someone in their early twenties with effectively no irl social circle and an extremely well paying (but physically demanding) job in heavy industry, how am I supposed to meet people? I know that my lack of social interaction with both women and people my age is the reason for the lack of a social circle, but I don't know how to rectify that. I have one real life friend. I participate in one community hobby that is extremely male dominated, mostly with military guys, and I don't hang out with any of those guys outside of events.


I make more than all of my peers by a significant margin, and I'm also worried about alienating some of the online friends I have due to the large disparity in our incomes and lifestyles. Most of my online friends give 0 shits as far as I can tell, but it still bothers me. I'm extremely lonely and I don't know how to course correct at this point. Everyone tells me how well off I am and how they wish they were in my spot at my age, but I just feel empty in side. Other than hobby events, I'm terminally online, and I have no real motivation to do anything else. I'm certain I'm depressed, but I'm also certain that ssris will only make things worse.

I mean, it's bad enough that I'm asking for advice from other online retards in a thread about a fucking incel spree shooter. Fuck.
You're asking this question in a thread where there's an onslaught of retards spouting the same meme advice and not being able (or not wanting to) understand the reasons why that guy went postal. What exactly are you trying to achieve - getting trolled or people laughing at you?
 
No sympathy!

Everyone has bad days, some just live bad lives, but there are also those that get out of those bad lives. Why? Because they made the choice to get out of this bitter state. It's like smoking, you hate it and you know it's gonna kill you, but you do it anyways because it's just that addictive and validating to feel like crap! That's what bitterness is!

This guy made a choice that he knew was wrong and stuck with it anyways. He is an absolute bitch!

Poor father and daughter, man...
 
Extremely faggy question(s) with some powerlevelling ahead.

As someone in their early twenties with effectively no irl social circle and an extremely well paying (but physically demanding) job in heavy industry, how am I supposed to meet people? I know that my lack of social interaction with both women and people my age is the reason for the lack of a social circle, but I don't know how to rectify that. I have one real life friend. I participate in one community hobby that is extremely male dominated, mostly with military guys, and I don't hang out with any of those guys outside of events.


I make more than all of my peers by a significant margin, and I'm also worried about alienating some of the online friends I have due to the large disparity in our incomes and lifestyles. Most of my online friends give 0 shits as far as I can tell, but it still bothers me. I'm extremely lonely and I don't know how to course correct at this point. Everyone tells me how well off I am and how they wish they were in my spot at my age, but I just feel empty in side. Other than hobby events, I'm terminally online, and I have no real motivation to do anything else. I'm certain I'm depressed, but I'm also certain that ssris will only make things worse.

I mean, it's bad enough that I'm asking for advice from other online retards in a thread about a fucking incel spree shooter. Fuck.
Well the only advice I can give, as i'm socially sheltered as well is... keep your online friends close, try to make more(!) online friends and maybe you can find a lass that way. I know a dude who found his bird on discord (a gaming discord...). You could try online dating but be specific that you don't want one-night-stands. You are very much on your way tho! You have quite a lot going for you already. Def don't give up your male dominated hobbies, you need male company too. Sorry if I didn't help but uh, it's all I can say ;-)
 
And to all the incels lurking, always remember that your life could be alot worse, dude. A LOT WORSE.
These Indian guys in the video have to dive shit everyday to make ends meet:
Now rethink all of that bullshit retoric of "i'm 24 and I have NOTHING, i'm gonna make other peoples lives miserable", think of people more unfortunate then you.
 
That's a terrible mistake and you know it. A man who gets dropped in the friendzone is not a real friend to her and putting up with her shit is just going to fuck his self esteem. Men and women can be genuine friends and its often good for you, but friendzoning never works well for you.
I guess I am using the term friend zone more generally. That kind of emotional vampirism that some men consider “friendship” with a woman is not real friendship and any man that puts up with that beyond their naive teenage years is pathetic. What I mean is there are some men who will never be viewed as potential romantic partners by women, no matter how theoretically desirable the man becomes. Most incels would meet this description even if they managed to leave the incel mentality and improve themselves. Maybe if you give him a good job making lots of money he can land a low-grade gold digger, but if he has any self-respect at all he won’t be satisfied with that.
 
Extremely faggy question(s) with some powerlevelling ahead.

As someone in their early twenties with effectively no irl social circle and an extremely well paying (but physically demanding) job in heavy industry, how am I supposed to meet people? I know that my lack of social interaction with both women and people my age is the reason for the lack of a social circle, but I don't know how to rectify that. I have one real life friend. I participate in one community hobby that is extremely male dominated, mostly with military guys, and I don't hang out with any of those guys outside of events.


I make more than all of my peers by a significant margin, and I'm also worried about alienating some of the online friends I have due to the large disparity in our incomes and lifestyles. Most of my online friends give 0 shits as far as I can tell, but it still bothers me. I'm extremely lonely and I don't know how to course correct at this point. Everyone tells me how well off I am and how they wish they were in my spot at my age, but I just feel empty in side. Other than hobby events, I'm terminally online, and I have no real motivation to do anything else. I'm certain I'm depressed, but I'm also certain that ssris will only make things worse.

I mean, it's bad enough that I'm asking for advice from other online retards in a thread about a fucking incel spree shooter. Fuck.
Buy a skateboard and go to your local skatepark, I'm not joking. Doing that was one of the best decisions I made during the pandemic. There's a ton of tutorials online on how to start but if you ask, someone at the park will always be willing to help. Skateboarders are the most relaxed, chill group I've ever met and I've made some friends just by going to my local park on a regular basis and starting that first conversation by asking about how to do a particular trick, asking about their boards etc. Online friends are not a replacement for real-life human interaction. If you don't have a skatepark near you at least start with an activity that involves getting outside of the house, even if it's an activity you have to do alone. e.g. go to the Zoo, local nature park, theme park etc.

Don't bring up your income to others, I make a lot of money too and it never comes up in conversation. If someone does ask just say you 'do all right for yourself' and leave it at that.
 
I guess I am using the term friend zone more generally. That kind of emotional vampirism that some men consider “friendship” with a woman is not real friendship and any man that puts up with that beyond their naive teenage years is pathetic. What I mean is there are some men who will never be viewed as potential romantic partners by women, no matter how theoretically desirable the man becomes. Most incels would meet this description even if they managed to leave the incel mentality and improve themselves. Maybe if you give him a good job making lots of money he can land a low-grade gold digger, but if he has any self-respect at all he won’t be satisfied with that.
Having women as friends is key for the simple reason that they will earnestly support you getting with someone. Its rare for a woman to be around a man who won't try to get down their pants so they greatly appreciate it and will hype you up which is key. It's basically commandeering the same instinct horse girls have. It's why the best relationship articles will teach you to earnestly befriend the women you interact with and remain selective.
 
And to all the incels lurking, always remember that your life could be alot worse, dude. A LOT WORSE.
These Indian guys in the video have to dive shit everyday to make ends meet:
Now rethink all of that bullshit retoric of "i'm 24 and I have NOTHING, i'm gonna make other peoples lives miserable", think of people more unfortunate then you.
Of all the stuff you could say, "someone has it worse" is even more stupid than "dress well, get jacked and talk to women". When NPCs tell mentally unwell people about how good they have it, it only furthers their inward drift into themselves (and progressively into their ass).
 
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Having women as friends is key for the simple reason that they will earnestly support you getting with someone. Its rare for a woman to be around a man who won't try to get down their pants so they greatly appreciate it and will hype you up which is key. It's basically commandeering the same instinct horse girls have. It's why the best relationship articles will teach you to earnestly befriend the women you interact with and remain selective.
That is true for men who aren’t the ones I described. The ones who are won’t get matched up. The women know the man has no value as a romantic partner, so if the topic ever comes up they will just say they don’t have any single friends or just change the subject.
 
That is true for men who aren’t the ones I described. The ones who are won’t get matched up. The women know the man has no value as a romantic partner, so if the topic ever comes up they will just say they don’t know have any single friends or just change the subject.
So are we talking downies and cripple tier?
 
So are we talking downies and cripple tier?
They would probably fall under this but it’s not just them. There are average-looking, able-bodied men with good jobs and enough social skills to have actual friendships with women who fit this description too. If I knew what the trait or combination of traits was that leads to this outcome I would describe it, but I don’t. It’s just an observation I have made.
 
Of all the stuff you could say, "someone has it worse" is even more stupid than "dress well, get jacked and talked to women". When NPCs tell mentally unwell people about how good they have it, it only furthers their inward drift into themselves (and progressively into their ass).
I might partially disagree here. It is true that when you hear stories of more unfortunate people, it can create an effect were the mentally unwell dude thinks even less of himself because he feels guilty for having those privileges in the first place or envious that these people have more grit than him. On the other hand, hearing about less fortunate people can perhaps motivate or at least give an idea of how these people endure it.

How I see it, it's just another advice in a sea of other advice. It's all a matter of learning from it
 
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Extremely faggy question(s) with some powerlevelling ahead.

As someone in their early twenties with effectively no irl social circle and an extremely well paying (but physically demanding) job in heavy industry, how am I supposed to meet people? I know that my lack of social interaction with both women and people my age is the reason for the lack of a social circle, but I don't know how to rectify that. I have one real life friend. I participate in one community hobby that is extremely male dominated, mostly with military guys, and I don't hang out with any of those guys outside of events.


I make more than all of my peers by a significant margin, and I'm also worried about alienating some of the online friends I have due to the large disparity in our incomes and lifestyles. Most of my online friends give 0 shits as far as I can tell, but it still bothers me. I'm extremely lonely and I don't know how to course correct at this point. Everyone tells me how well off I am and how they wish they were in my spot at my age, but I just feel empty in side. Other than hobby events, I'm terminally online, and I have no real motivation to do anything else. I'm certain I'm depressed, but I'm also certain that ssris will only make things worse.

I mean, it's bad enough that I'm asking for advice from other online retards in a thread about a fucking incel spree shooter. Fuck.
You're the only one who cares how much money you make.

Go to a bar. Talk to people. It's really not that complicated. If you have a personality other than this whiny shit, you might make a friend.
 
They would probably fall under this but it’s not just them. There are average-looking, able-bodied men with good jobs and enough social skills to have actual friendships with women who fit this description too. If I knew what the trait or combination of traits was that leads to this outcome I would describe it, but I don’t. It’s just an observation I have made.
There could be a number of things with that. A lot of guys for instance, don't actively pursue women they like and are rather passive towards getting in relationships. It could also be that the women they're friends with don't have a deep connection or otherwise don't really want to share the attention. It's typically been older women who wanted to baby me who would actively work towards pairing me off so I probably should have accounted for it.
 
You're asking this question in a thread where there's an onslaught of retards spouting the same meme advice and not being able (or not wanting to) understand the reasons why that guy went postal. What exactly are you trying to achieve - getting trolled or people laughing at you?
Frankly, I'm hoping that someone above the meme advice has some actual advice. The real catalyst for the post was this thread reply:
A big part of the trick is putting yourself in environments where you meet women regularly IRL on a consistent basis. This was actually pretty easy in the days where you could go to church and join fraternal orders who would network you but right now the only place to meet new people is in work settings mostly. This means men who work trades and high powered careers can't easily build organic relationships with women and there are only so many office drone jobs that pay worth a damn and won't kill your soul.
It really resonated with me and the position I find myself in at current: objectively in an extremely good place, but subjectively feeling like shit anyway despite it.
 
These women all came from dating apps. Now, you may say 'don't use dating apps hur dur', but do me a favor and try that. Seriously, try to find an irl date when literally everyone and their grandmother is using dating apps. Try to strike a convo at a bar, and get laid that way, in today's day and age. Try it, I dare you. The only long term relationship in my entire friend group involves the only girl in our circle. That's how dire the dating game is rn. Women have complete, utter tyrannical control over the dating game, because the companies making these apps are making them for women. When you combine that with feminism and OnlyFans, female narcissism is at an all time high.

As the only non-straight in my circle, I have experience with homo dating apps like grindr. The difference is so night and day that it makes me hate women even more. I can get laid on grindr, or find a relationship, within 30 minutes. I know I'm attractive, because as soon as I update my profile I'm getting 15 or so notifications and unsolicited dick pics. Yet if I go on tinder, crickets. Why? Because I'm not 'daddy' age yet, and I'm as financially stable as the women I'm scrolling through. The only time I got messages on tinder was when I was a drug dealer.

Women on dating apps like Tinder are the ones getting inundated with dick picks every day. Maybe you were flattered by it yourself but generally speaking, women do not actually like getting those (ironically, the ones who do, would just get called whores). After a while, those women get disillusioned and will decrease the time they spend on those apps and many will quit using them altogether discouraged. At the end of the day, the main issue is that men want more meaningless sex than women. It carries less risk for them for one. It has nothing to do with your perceived attractiveness. You could post just a picture of your dick on grindr and you'd still get flooded with responses. That's how thirsty men are. Since women are not in as much of a hurry to get laid, they can take their time and take breaks from looking once in a while and stake up crochet or whatever instead in the meantime. They're certainly not about to meet every weirdo who messages them when even a teenage boy could easily overpower them. If you want to take women's "narcissism" down a notch, you should start a movement for men to be less thirsty for pussy.
 
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