Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Registration]

Started the Drayano sacred gold hack. This is my team (corpish is a hm slave)

And I did get the rapist

 

[30+GameOvers]

I think it's pretty cool that it's more or less confirmed that the "lost civilization" in Gen 3 was supposed to be Atlantis, and that not only was Metagross supposed to be an actual legendary but it and Latias/Latios were supposed to be connected to Groundon/Kyogre. The two evil teams were also fairly different but were turned into pretty much one generic team in two colors in the final game, looks like even back then Gamefreak had bigger plans they were never able to utilize. I can give or take the beta designs tho, they aren't very good.

These leaks have been very bountiful, we will be digging thru them for months if not years, and what is in them will work wonders within the ROMhack community(especially the official editors and source codes). If we can confirm the XYinsider alien theory correct, then I'm all set

 

[6MillionCoofs]

If we can confirm the XYinsider alien theory correct,

I’m sorry, what?

 

[30+GameOvers]

I’m sorry, what?

TL;DR the Ultra Beasts are recycled content from the original XY story draft and the Fairy Type itself was originally going to play a much larger part in the story. Lysandre was also a completely different character, which I can easily buy since his role in the final game was so wasted.

 

[Caesar]

 

[6MillionCoofs]

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TL;DR the Ultra Beasts are recycled content from the original XY story draft and the Fairy Type itself was originally going to play a much larger part in the story. Lysandre was also a completely different character, which I can easily buy since his role in the final game was so wasted.

Well that explains why it feels like all SM end game content fit better in XY.

Honestly feels like XY/SM were split in half in a lot of places. Or were going to be a pair.

 

[30+GameOvers]

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I really do hope Nintendo Ninjas cut off this dumb nigger's balls. I'm surprised he wasn't DMCA'd earlier, I guess Nintendo/TPCi really thought this was just going to blow over, even after Typhlosion leaks came out

Well that explains why it feels like all SM end game content fit better in XY.

Honestly feels like XY/SM were split in half in a lot of places. Or were going to be a pair.

Oh yeah, pretty much all the cut content for Gen 6, including everything planned for Z, ended up just becoming part of Gen 7. If the XYinsider post is a larp, it's a very good one since it's very believable that they had content like this planned out but were not able to implement it for whatever reason. What we got was very safe, which lines up with the actual leaks we got and how things worked in earlier generations.

 

[Caesar]

I guess Nintendo/TPCi really thought this was just going to blow over, even after Typhlosion leaks came out

They've likely got access logs and have seen what was taken by now

 

[6MillionCoofs]

What we got was very safe, which lines up with the actual leaks we got and how things worked in earlier generations.

Yeah at this point I’ve half a mind that dev goes like

Devs: We have this cool plan
Higher up: No
Devs: We are too far in
Higher up: Can you take out such snd such and stick it in the next gam
Devs: I think we should have just enough time…yeah

 

[Another Random]

Well that explains why it feels like all SM end game content fit better in XY.

Honestly feels like XY/SM were split in half in a lot of places. Or were going to be a pair.

Yeah at this point I’ve half a mind that dev goes like

Devs: We have this cool plan
Higher up: No
Devs: We are too far in
Higher up: Can you take out such snd such and stick it in the next gam
Devs: I think we should have just enough time…yeah

Most likely what happens is this:

Devs: We've got so much stuff we want to do and we need seven years to do it!
Higher-Ups: You have a budget and five years to get this done.
Devs: Okay, let's see what we can scrap. We can use it again some other time.

An example is that I've seen the early concept of Team Galactic [a meritocratic capitalist business organization] to basically be what Team Flare ended up being [Lysandre's personal enterprise] and some of the plot points, like them shoving the Legendary in a machine that is going to extract their power and the Leader wearing a mask when being the Leader, being basically them taking the concepts they scrapped from Gen 4 and reusing them in Gen 6.

Add to it that apparently Game Freak didn't release a third game for Gen 6 because they wanted to work on stuff like Harmo Knight, and it's pretty easy to assume that they just went and used the third game elements into Gen 7, which is why Zygarde gets a full sidequest and all.

 

[anliteralidiot]

Add to it that apparently Game Freak didn't release a third game for Gen 6 because they wanted to work on stuff like Harmo Knight, and it's pretty easy to assume that they just went and used the third game elements into Gen 7, which is why Zygarde gets a full sidequest and all.

If I remember right, there was a copyright leak with an XY2...

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

apparently Game Freak didn't release a third game for Gen 6 because they wanted to work on stuff like Harmo Knight

what a great decision that was.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

what a great decision that was.

It was, it was a great game

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

It was, it was a great game

being honest, i didn't play it. it's kind of a tragedy what happened to the 3DS eshop, the gen 7 games are cartridge only now, unless you mod your 3ds. same for harmoknight, which i can't find sales numbers for, don't think it would've done the pokemon numbers. gamefreak's other franchises tend to be pretty niche.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

being honest, i didn't play it. it's kind of a tragedy what happened to the 3DS eshop, the gen 7 games are cartridge only now, unless you mod your 3ds. same for harmoknight, which i can't find sales numbers for, don't think it would've done the pokemon numbers. gamefreak's other franchises tend to be pretty niche.

It was niche. But it did ok. And is very well liked.

 

[XMassAllYearRound]

Umbreon and Espeon could be Dusk and Dawn. They evolve at night and day respectively.

There's already a couple of items that make pokemon with time-based requirements to evolve, the sun and moon shards (Missing one for sunset with Lycanroc I suppose)

The problem is that if they were to add those items it would cement Colosseum and XD as canon and Nintendo/GF seem to really want to memory-hole both of those games for some reason that I don't fully understand.

 

[30+GameOvers]

The problem is that if they were to add those items it would cement Colosseum and XD as canon and Nintendo/GF seem to really want to memory-hole both of those games for some reason that I don't fully understand.

GF can't stand that some nobody studio that never worked on a Pokemon game before and didn't even understand it's mechanics made two hits back to back that even 20 years later make their games look like a joke, graphically and otherwise.
I don't see any other reason why have such petty hatred for these two games. Nothing would stop Nintendo from releasing these two as part of the VC at the very least, even if it wouldn't have link to the Bank/HOME like you would expect them to.
At least PBR has an excuse for being memoryholed since it wasn't positively received, CL and GoD? Not so much.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

GF can't stand that some nobody studio that never worked on a Pokemon game before and didn't even understand it's mechanics made two hits back to back that even 20 years later make their games look like a joke, graphically and otherwise.

They don’t and considering most of the staff that worked on the game, i doubt they mind someone else making the games.

More likely it is ‘sold terriblely for first Pokemon console game, not doing that again’

Nothing would stop Nintendo from releasing these two as part of the VC at the very least, even if it wouldn't have link to the Bank/HOME like you would expect them

I think they’d be stopped from doing that by the fact they are GC and Nintendo just does nit seem to want to emulate that console on VC at all.

CL and GoD? Not so much.

They sold bad and were not recieved well. Like many gamecube games it is the few children that played them at the time growing up and remembering them fondly, frequently as much better than they were.

 

[30+GameOvers]

They don’t and considering most of the staff that worked on the game, i doubt they mind someone else making the games.

More likely it is ‘sold terriblely for first Pokemon console game, not doing that again’

They sold bad and were not recieved well. Like many gamecube games it is the few children that played them at the time growing up and remembering them fondly, frequently as much better than they were.

Some cult classic characters would do wonders with some merchandising and re-releasing these games on VC doesn't cost them anything. I don't know how well they sold but they were definitely received well at the time, even more so now as people learned to appreciate them. There is zero reason why TPCi wouldn't do the bare minimal to try and make some more money unless there is a personal reason for someone within the company. In Japanese culture, the higher ups are basically treated like royalty, you can't say shit to them if you work beneath them, which means if they would have some personal vendetta or insisted the company take some retarded direction, who's going to stop them? This is a bigger issue over there than you might think.
So yeah, I can definitely buy into this theory. Mystery Dungeon games also aren't the most popular games but they definitely received a remake, CL and GoD are even less obscure. With how penny pinching these bastards are with everything nowdays, there is no logical reason to not make these games more widely available, even if they don't plan on doing anything with these two in the future.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Some cult classic characters would do wonders with some merchandising and re-releasing these games on VC doesn't cost them anything.

It cost Nintendo having to actually give us a VC that plays Cube games and that seem beyond reluctant to do that

I don't know how well they sold but they were definitely received well at the time, even more so now as people learned to appreciate them.

Not very. It was the Cube.

There is zero reason why TPCi wouldn't do the bare minimal to try and make some more money unless there is a personal reason for someone within the company.

Did not sell well, spin offs and due to a lack of VC they would have to port them proper. Meaning you are asking the company to waste money in their eyes.

Mystery Dungeon games also aren't the most popular games but they definitely received a remake,

Mystery Dungeon games were on the GBA and ran up through the DS. Infinitely more popular and well known. And also. GBA. Much easier to remake.

Nintendo almost seems against remaking Cube unless absolutely required. It’s very strange.