Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[X-avier cuck]

Does TPC just have a fanart folder lying around? How does something like this even happen in the first place?

It's kinda like that time when Sumo Digital accidentally used fanart in Sonic & Sega All Stars Racing and they had to patch it out.

It's unfortunately a pretty common thing when it comes to Japanese Ips, because this happened with Dragon Ball thanks to Toyotaro being caught using references for marvel as poses for the Dragon Ball super manga.

In Pokemon's case it's even more egregious because it's getting to the point to where fan content is beginning to outpace the franchise itself, and the teraleak revealed that they let out scrap designs that look like popular Fan works.

Nintendo established established a law that basically says they own anything that's tied to their IPs, but I don't think that holds up under too much scrutiny.

 

[anliteralidiot]

I'm not saying N is right, I'm just explaining his perspective. He believes having Pokemon inside Poke Balls is inherently cruel, so he releases them right after.

Dude was locked in a room with abused pokemon for friends. He probably sees the balls the same way he sees his room.

And the funnier thing about the sonic fanart they used, was that it was Sonia... From Sonic Underground.

Sega doesn't even have the rights to Sonia lol

 

[Retarded Weeb]

This isn't even the first time official Pokemon stuff has gotten caught stealing fan content. In ORAS there's a map you can see hung up in some houses, and the texture for it is just the fan-made PokeEarth map of all gen 1-4 regions on Serebii.net except downscaled and inverted.


And one of the trailers for the Scarlet/Violet DLC used a fanmade remix of the Area Zero music taken off Youtube instead of the original music.

Also when I searching for references for these things, I found out the Teraleak had some stuff from Pokken where they were figuring out how exactly the Pokemon should look, and Namco used a piece of DeviantArt fan art as a reference for Weavile. Not really the same thing since it wasn't in the final game or anything, but still kind of funny.

 

[X-avier cuck]

Since we're talking about generation 5, why do people think of the elemental monkeys?

They are the only Pokemon to have effectively gone the entire switch One generation without so much as a mention until ZA.

Even I didn't used to be fond of them, I almost always have them with me whenever I do replay BW, and found out from a Japanese friend that they're kind of supposed to be Gag mons.


The designs of their evolved forms imply that the three Pokémon failed in their assigned Wise Monkey roles. Simisage is patterned after Yankiis, who are known to be foul-mouthed and rude. Simisear's design is based on a bosozoku, who make loud noise by removing the mufflers on their motorcycles. Simipour is modeled after a kogal, who value their appearance more than anything else.

 

[Retarded Weeb]

Since we're talking about generation 5, why do people think of the elemental monkeys?

They are the only Pokemon to have effectively gone the entire switch One generation without so much as a mention until ZA.

Even I didn't used to be fond of them, I almost always have them with me whenever I do replay BW, and found out from a Japanese friend that they're kind of supposed to be Gag mons.


The designs of their evolved forms imply that the three Pokémon failed in their assigned Wise Monkey roles. Simisage is patterned after Yankiis, who are known to be foul-mouthed and rude. Simisear's design is based on a bosozoku, who make loud noise by removing the mufflers on their motorcycles. Simipour is modeled after a kogal, who value their appearance more than anything else.

I'm fine with the monkeys. I don't particularly like them, but I find the people who hate them to be really autistic in their hate for them as they generally can't give a good reason for the intense dislike except that they "waste slots" in the Pokedex, which is an even stupider argument to make for Pokemon than it is for fighting games.

I used a Simipour in my most recent playthrough of Black 2, and it worked pretty well for an in-game Water-type team member. Fast but frail, and will good enough mixed offenses. Scald, Ice Punch/Beam, and Acrobatics gives a good enough range of coverage, and since I was playing a hack where everything was Triples, Acrobatics had the extra benefit of being able to attack targets in the opposite corner.

 

[anliteralidiot]

Since we're talking about generation 5, why do people think of the elemental monkeys?

I found them annoying as a kid, because I didn't like the handholding the game did by making you catch one to use in the gym. I was in high school, and I knew my type matchups damnit.

But now, they're wholly inoffensive and kinda cute.

 

[Level99Manchild]

Agreed, tying max particles to battle entry and upgrading pokemoms was DUMB but not as dumb as the amount of candies and XL candies required to upgrade moves which whales over the Silphroad will say it's fine since after all the events and community days you should have a bajillion candies (nevermind that for years they told you to just spend the candy and XL candy is scarce and a"recent" addition to the game).

As for the max raids themselves, for a long time I didn't bother with them since the cost of entry was steep (and last year the soft cap and daily particles were lower)
I recall being invited (remotely) to one of the gigantamax galar starters raids and seeing something like 30 or 40 people in the lobby, thought to myself "should be easy with this many people". I think we did less than 1/4 of the boss's hp bar before everyone got wiped out,I was soured on the concept again.
Gave them another chance during go fest since I could just use the sword/shield dogs which I was gonna power up anyways and ended up liking them. Turns out I was going the wrong way about getting my pokemon ready for them: often You only need to unlock and upgrade a single move to lvl2 and your party should consist of 1 attacker and two tanks/healers, mind you this is totally alien to someone used to normal raids where DPS is king and everything else takes a backseat.
It is a nice change of pace from normal raids and I like the fact that defensive pokemon finally have an use in pve content but the cost of entry is absolutely horrendous, they really need to decrease candy costs.

Max content was mean for endgame, but this should have been accessed when you hit the 40s, not level 13. At this point of the game, we should be seeing Pokemon with Max abilities in the wild without a p2w mechanic (Word is Eternamax might make Max Pokemon show up). Some new players are going to take a while to learn how to farm stardust and the candies you need to build Pokemon. Remote max battles should have been available from day-one because players had problems finding people to participate in Max battles. Even when I found people to do Max battles with, they're so demanding with coordination (good luck coordinating a group of 40) and knowing what ideal moves you want the bosses to have (You can do with legendary max fights, not Gmaxes). The worst max experience I had was with Entei because nobody in my group leveled their Pokemon, and the event was so unorganized. the 400+ Cinderace Max fight at GoFest was...something (It nuked more than half of the people doing it at GoFest). I really have a bad feeling about Eternatus.

I used the same approach with certain Pokemon where I only built 1 or 2 main moves if I had the dust and candy. Snorlax is my tank to build energy (his normals aren't bad, and Blissey is my second slot for healing) and when it time's to use max moves, I'll either throw armor/heals or nukes with my DPS Pokemon (Gengar for the Latis). I'm hoping to get lots of stardust from Butterfree this Sunday.

I always report videos that have gay shit in the thumb nail or title, make sure everyone reading this goes to the video reports it for Sexual content and write about how it's about exposing kids to sex, it's a kids' game and faggot shit should never have anything to do with it.

And he doubled down by screeching how criticizing Mega Dragonite might be Muh Soggy Knee.

 

[The Cum Beast]

Since we're talking about generation 5, why do people think of the elemental monkeys?

I actually like how goofy and dumb they are. Simipour in particular is my favourite out of the 3 (panpour gets scald in the mid 20s, need I say more) and for some reason all 3 of them has pretty solid speed and attacking stats for a playthrough + wide movepool

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

Was a Flying-typ Eeveelution cancelled because the design was very similar to a fan design?

 

[X-avier cuck]

Was a Flying-typ Eeveelution cancelled because the design was very similar to a fan design?

Yup, according to the leak TPC feared being accused of plagiarism so the design was scrapped and could explain why there has not been a new eeveelution since.

I actually like how goofy and dumb they are. Simipour in particular is my favourite out of the 3 (panpour gets scald in the mid 20s, need I say more) and for some reason all 3 of them has pretty solid speed and attacking stats for a playthrough + wide movepool

I actually wish the Pokemon company and Nintendo did more with them because it felt like they were designed to be mascots early in generation 5 but plans for that were shelved.

The idea of pseudo starters has so much potential

 

[Kofi Drinka]

If you genuinely believe the BW story impedes the gameplay you probably don't have the attention span to actually judge what makes a good story.

Strawman argument. Everyone admits the story is bad but I'm the problem if I would rather have no story over a bad story? BW supporters must have played the game as actual children and hold the nostalgia for their first pokemon games.

Since we're talking about generation 5, why do people think of the elemental monkeys?

Same pokemon with different elements is a good idea. A monkey or Eevee style trio in games would be welcome. Give players a choice of what they get so they're making a choice to evolve not just catching what's available.

The fanart stuff is devs googling stuff and taking what they find. They use the same tools we do and it's not always marked properly on Search engines.

 

[Computer God Autism]

Everyone admits the story is bad

No one did. Something not being amazing doesn't make it bad. Writing and the quality of writing is not a binary or an equation. I'm not going to call the writing in any rpg bad just because it's not as good as Kotor 2 or New Vegas. The closest you've gotten to other people saying the story is bad here is an argument the writing is not as good as it's held up as.

 

[BlazikenLover]

@Level99Manchild I believe that they should have just given a research with a decent fully evolved max pokemon as ir rewards early into max raids introduction, while you are supposed to prepare for these boss battles you still need other players equally prepared and with how much of a resource sink max pokemon are in general... Better give the casuals something so they aren't a total liability. Hell, a better initial roster of max pokemon would have been just as good, people bitch and moan about people bringing wooloos, well no shit they were one of two available pokemon when the feature was released.

 

[30+GameOvers]

Since we're talking about generation 5, why do people think of the elemental monkeys?

They are the only Pokemon to have effectively gone the entire switch One generation without so much as a mention until ZA.

Even I didn't used to be fond of them, I almost always have them with me whenever I do replay BW, and found out from a Japanese friend that they're kind of supposed to be Gag mons.


The designs of their evolved forms imply that the three Pokémon failed in their assigned Wise Monkey roles. Simisage is patterned after Yankiis, who are known to be foul-mouthed and rude. Simisear's design is based on a bosozoku, who make loud noise by removing the mufflers on their motorcycles. Simipour is modeled after a kogal, who value their appearance more than anything else.

I think it's a sin that they are effectively useless in competitive due to them having 1 evo rather than 2. They are essentially stuck as a second stage starter Pokemon, so not only are they less powerful but Eviolite doesn't work on them. Shame, as I like their designs, but they are completely pointless outside of single player.

I actually like how goofy and dumb they are. Simipour in particular is my favourite out of the 3 (panpour gets scald in the mid 20s, need I say more) and for some reason all 3 of them has pretty solid speed and attacking stats for a playthrough + wide movepool

My first White playhtru had Simipour as one of my aces, it's in late level 70s as well. Same with a Dewgong I transferred all the way from FireRed, shame you can only really use these Pokemon to their full potential in the campaign as they simply cannot do anything useful on a competitive level.

Same pokemon with different elements is a good idea. A monkey or Eevee style trio in games would be welcome. Give players a choice of what they get so they're making a choice to evolve not just catching what's available.

Gale of Darkness gives you an Eevee as a starter and you can get any of the 5 eevolutions early on in the game if you want(that includes special stones not re-introduced since to get an Umbreon or Espeon if you want). Colosseum did something similar by having Umbreon and Espeon be your actual starters, but early on you have a choice of fighting one of three special Cipher peons who each has one of the Johto starters. You fight the ones you missed later on in the game, with the last one appearing all the way at the end.

 

[X-avier cuck]

What is the thing that got you in the Pokemon and your favorite Pokemon overall?

My Mom used to work at State farm and there was already word of mouth about Pokemon going on in her work place, so because I made a lot of good grades she took me to a Walmart and bought me a game boy and Pokémon Yellow ( also got Looney tunes racing too, but I digress).

Kids WB was basically just blasting Pokemon on a weekly basis and they have one of the best Saturday morning lineups back then, so I was able to play alongside the show, and funny enough my dad who was the last to find out about Pokemon ended up getting me red and blue as a surprise almost a week after I got yellow.

I don't think I remembered much about my first playthrough, except having a profound hatred of Gary Oak so I would always grind my Pokemon to crush him.

That's what my favorite Pokemon I think it might be the Kalos Starters as a whole.

I'm really into RPGs and I kind of like how they reflect different gameplay styles even if they sort of got the short end of the stick until za

 

[Squawking Macaw]

What is the thing that got you in the Pokemon and your favorite Pokemon overall?

Pirated Pokemon spinoffs for the Wii.
My dad pirated Battle Revolution and PokePark for me and those were my introduction to Pokemon. I only became interested in the main series after seeing my classmates pirate gen 3 games on the class computers, the PSP was much more popular than the DS in my area so most Pokemon fans played on emulators.

The kids who pirated the games didn't let anyone else play them so I asked my dad to get Pokemon FireRed on his computer, but he had no clue what a "FireRed" was so he pirated Black, White and a Japanese ROM of HeartGold instead. I loved them but I had some issues with the ROMs, so I asked my mom for a DS to play the physical games and she bought me a 3DS.

My favorite is either Zekrom or Ho-Oh but I'm leaning a bit more towards Zekrom, I love the more complex designs of box legendaries. One is a badass black and blue lightning dragon that looks like it's wearing armor and the other is a colorful bird, and as you can guess by my profile I like colorful birds.

 

[Computer God Autism]

the PSP was much more popular than the DS in my area so most Pokemon fans played on emulators.

Probably the first time I've ever heard that. How?

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

Since we're talking about generation 5, why do people think of the elemental monkeys?

They are the only Pokemon to have effectively gone the entire switch One generation without so much as a mention until ZA.

Even I didn't used to be fond of them, I almost always have them with me whenever I do replay BW, and found out from a Japanese friend that they're kind of supposed to be Gag mons.


The designs of their evolved forms imply that the three Pokémon failed in their assigned Wise Monkey roles. Simisage is patterned after Yankiis, who are known to be foul-mouthed and rude. Simisear's design is based on a bosozoku, who make loud noise by removing the mufflers on their motorcycles. Simipour is modeled after a kogal, who value their appearance more than anything else.

I don't like the monkeys, but I don't like monkeys in general. Mechanics wise, it was good to give the player a Pokemon that helps cover the weakness they'd be facing in the first gym even if I abandoned the thing after a while. Theme wise, I like what they were going for.

 

[X-avier cuck]

Pirated Pokemon spinoffs for the Wii.
My dad pirated Battle Revolution and PokePark for me and those were my introduction to Pokemon. I only became interested in the main series after seeing my classmates pirate gen 3 games on the class computers, the PSP was much more popular than the DS in my area so most Pokemon fans played on emulators.

The kids who pirated the games didn't let anyone else play them so I asked my dad to get Pokemon FireRed on his computer, but he had no clue what a "FireRed" was so he pirated Black, White and a Japanese ROM of HeartGold instead. I loved them but I had some issues with the ROMs, so I asked my mom for a DS to play the physical games and she bought me a 3DS.

My favorite is either Zekrom or Ho-Oh but I'm leaning a bit more towards Zekrom, I love the more complex designs of box legendaries. One is a badass black and blue lightning dragon that looks like it's wearing armor and the other is a colorful bird, and as you can guess by my profile I like colorful birds.
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Gen 4 had the best spin-off stuff IMHO.

Gen three felt like a quasi-refresh, so seeing older mons get evos + HGSS REALLLLY made the gen hit hard for me.
Back then, Joe Merrick would report on leaked info he got and info about GSC remakes called " DAWN Gold and DUSK Silver," and a day later they were confirmed on pokemon Sunday.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

What is the thing that got you in the Pokemon and your favorite Pokemon overall?

My brother had Pokemon Blue and even though I was too young to really know what I was doing (I saved over my brother's game file and pissed him off lol), it just sucked me in until I could convince my mom to give me Pokemon Red and my own gameboy.

I'm a big fan of Slowking, but I've gotten more and more partial to Breloom as time has gone on. Lots of great memories in Gen 3 of Sky Uppercutting everything.