Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Intel Core Ultra 7 265k]

The troon that went REEEEEEEEE LE CHIKORITA HATERS ARE LE HECKING SEXIST made this absolute slop

Scrolling through this dudes channel more than half of his channel is just about trans people and shit

 

[Metamorpho]

Scrolling through this dudes channel more than half of his channel is just about trans people and shit

it checks out

 

[Squawking Macaw]

I didn't like Grass types until Gen 4 but Explorers made me go back and give Treecko a chance and I wound up really liking it.

Still, the only generation where I actively prefer the grass starter to the others is Unova.

Serperior is the best Unova starter:

• In the story it gets Coil and Leaf Blade, and Giga Drain gets buffed from 60 power to 75. It doesn't have good coverage but neither do the other Unova starters without using TMs.
• In competitive it gets Contrary Leaf Storm.
• It has the best design.

 

[Lone Star]

Of course there's some absolute retards screeching REEEEEEE SEXISM SEXISM SEXISM in the comments

Cringed at looking through the comments and so many people exclusively call Chikorita a girl. I actually checked and there's only a bit over a ten percent of it even being a girl.

 

[Coon Cheese]

Serperior is the best Unova starter:

Literally no one picks the grass type starter

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

Literally no one picks the grass type starter

I do. Gen 1 is the only exception, I tend toward Charmander, but every successive generation I've preferred the grass starter.

Chikorita - Great design, horrible execution. I wish it was better and that Meganium had the swag Bayleaf has. The only reason I use Cyndaquil is because the devs hated my little thumbosaur.

Treeko - Yes absorb sucks, but you should be using bullet seed. Always gamble. Grovyle is fantastic and gets extra browny points for PMD, again Sceptile is... mid design wise.

Turtwig - You can't tell me the entire Turtwig line isn't fucking awesome, but all the Gen IV starters are great for their own reasons.

Snivy - Smugness incarnate and its competition is a fat derpy pig / third fire fighting type starter in a row plus by far the shittiest looking 3rd stage water starter in the first six gens.

Chespin - Spikey shield go Bur lol.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

In the story it gets Coil

badass move, by the way. Give it Aqua Tail and Iron Tail and it's pretty much hitting hard without having to worry about accuracy checks.

 

[anliteralidiot]

Literally no one picks the grass type starter

I had Serperior for my unova starter, and Venusaur is my husband's favorite.

 

[Retarded Weeb]

Serperior is the best Unova starter:

• In the story it gets Coil and Leaf Blade, and Giga Drain gets buffed from 60 power to 75. It doesn't have good coverage but neither do the other Unova starters without using TMs.
• In competitive it gets Contrary Leaf Storm.
• It has the best design.

It's my favorite Unova starter, but purely from gameplay perspective it's the worst choice in both games. Its stats are kind of weird for in-game, having average offenses but being kind of bulky but fast. That's fine when you're spamming Contrary Leaf Storm and getting Sp. Atk boosts, but your starter Serperior doesn't have Contrary. In fact, Contrary wasn't available on it at all without cheating until Gen VI, so uh. It literally get only gets Aerial Ace and Dragon Tail for coverage in BW, which at 60 BP are the sorts of moves you use begrudgingly because you have nothing better to work with, and Grass STAB isn't very useful against any major opponent in the game except Clay.

It's better in the long-run in B2W2 because it now gets Aqua Tail, Iron Tail, and Dragon Pulse from the move tutor between the 6th and 7th Gyms, massively improving its coverage and against some types you'll be fighting in the late-game. Grass STAB also has one more good target with the final Gym Leader Marlon. (It also gets Outrage. >That's good! But not until post-game. >That's bad.) However in B2W2 you'll also have to get through both Roxie and Burgh first, both of which have teams that can wreck Servine and will require you build up other members of your team to deal with them, something you won't have to deal with with Dewott or especially Pignite.

 

[Squawking Macaw]

It's my favorite Unova starter, but purely from gameplay perspective it's the worst choice in both games. Its stats are kind of weird for in-game, having average offenses but being kind of bulky but fast. That's fine when you're spamming Contrary Leaf Storm and getting Sp. Atk boosts, but your starter Serperior doesn't have Contrary. In fact, Contrary wasn't available on it at all without cheating until Gen VI, so uh.

Serperior has the advantage of learning Leaf Blade before it even evolves, getting a 90 power move at level 32 makes it quite powerful in the midgame. The others take a bit longer to learn a strong spammable move.

Also, I was checking the Unova starters' movepools and their level up moves are ass. Serperior only learns Grass and Normal moves, Samurott only learns Water and Normal moves plus Fury Cutter (it can learn Megahorn but it needs the move relearner). Emboar has some coverage, but aside from Head Smash it's pathetically weak moves like Arm Thrust, Smog and Rollout. I compared them with Torterra and Feraligatr in gen 4 and it's night and day, those two can learn actually strong and useful moves. These chumps need TMs and tutors to be useful.

Also, I know Contrary is only usable from gen 6 onward, I just mentioned it because it's what makes Serperior the only relevant Unova starter in competitive.

 

[X-avier cuck]

Thing that got me into Pokemon was the cartoon. I was already heavily watching Saturday morning cartoons and I got hooked in immediately. I was the kid that wanted all the toys that came with shows - though my Mom and Dad made me pay for what I wanted myself so I usually only got one or two things per. I heard from older kids at school that not only the Pokemon Red and Blue games were a thing, but Pokemon Yellow was coming out and it would be like playing through the show with my favorite characters! So I saved up and got it, and that was that.

Fave overall is Misdreavus/Mismagius. I lucked into catching one with a modest nature when I first played through D/P/P and it ANNIHILATED everything in its path even through the Elite 4 and Cynthia. I've loved it ever since.

SAAAAAME.

I always like Misdreavus, but it wasn't until Fantina that I saw how much of a pain that thing could be when used right.

 

[I_Lurk_Here]

"This Pokémon has bad stats and/or moves."
Wow, good thing most games in the franchise are easy then!

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

If you started competitive with Gen 9, good luck. It is the most broken, power crept generation and even decades old mainstays are falling behind. It is a shitshow and I am not paying attention to it much, at least Gen 8 was a wild card due to dexit giving some forgotten pokemon a chance pre-dlc, but Gen 9 just has nothing for me. Everything is either utterly useless or completely OP, at that point why even bother? if I wanted to play the same few teams over and over again, I would just play the fanfic meta that is Smogon.

Uhh that can't be right, I was told smogon's fanfic meta was designed to avoid overcentralization, it is physically impossible for the same teams to be used over and over again

 

[Retarded Weeb]

"This Pokémon has bad stats and/or moves."
Wow, good thing most games in the franchise are easy then!

If you aren't spending 8 hours theorycrafting the optimal team to beat a game for small children 10% faster then can you even call yourself a gamer?

 

[Squawking Macaw]

Uhh that can't be right, I was told smogon's fanfic meta was designed to avoid overcentralization, it is physically impossible for the same teams to be used over and over again

I know you're being sarcastic but

 

[anliteralidiot]

"This Pokémon has bad stats and/or moves."
Wow, good thing most games in the franchise are easy then!

And some of us like pokemon not for their usefulness or stats, but because they look cool. Like, I fucking love Xatu and Sigilyph.

I love the native aesthetic for Xatu, and I adore the nazca line inspiration on Sigilyph (and its funny lil unown head)!
But they don't have a competitive niche, afaik, and they're kinda mid in the stats dept.

 

[30+GameOvers]

And some of us like pokemon not for their usefulness or stats, but because they look cool. Like, I fucking love Xatu and Sigilyph.
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I love the native aesthetic for Xatu, and I adore the nazca line inspiration on Sigilyph (and its funny lil unown head)!
But they don't have a competitive niche, afaik, and they're kinda mid in the stats dept.

One of my aces in White 1 was a Sigillyph and I liked him so much I transferred him over to Gen 7. He's not much in the competitive environment, but has a very interesting gimmick if you transfer him to a single player game. See, there is so much variety and strategies with moves introduced in Gen 4 and 5, and they just add up in Gen 6 and 7 and you can do some amazing things with even the crappiest of Pokemon if you know what you're doing. Sadly, when they started removing random moves(even fan favorites like Hidden Power and Pursuit) that was no longer possible, and I do not see this talked about nearly as much as with Dexit, as both are arguably just as bad and harmful to the fun factor of the game/it's competitive meta.

 

[The Cum Beast]

And some of us like pokemon not for their usefulness or stats, but because they look cool. Like, I fucking love Xatu and Sigilyph.
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I love the native aesthetic for Xatu, and I adore the nazca line inspiration on Sigilyph (and its funny lil unown head)!
But they don't have a competitive niche, afaik, and they're kinda mid in the stats dept.

Sigilyph is pretty cool and my go-to flier in the unova games