Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Takayuki Yagami]

To be honest this actually makes it worse, in my opinion. Nintendo knew about a similar problem before and did nothing to patch it. Counterfeit SD cards are incredibly common. Most people aren't even aware that their card isn't legit until it has some kind of catastrophic problem, and frankly, there's no reason to suspect a counterfeit card if it's worked for every other game fine up until this one. Fake cards are common enough that Nintendo should have patched this issue, and Game Freak should have tested for this. So many things about this game feel rushed, half-half baked, and untested.

Everyone expects small launch bugs. The key word here is small. They don't expect a potentially catastrophic failure from a AAA title.

EDIT: Actually this is irrelevant - the Italian Reddit user is saying that he doesn't have an SD card in his Switch at all.

Or GF was too proud or dense to ask Nintendo EAD or any of the various 2nd and 3rd party devs if there were quirks that they should know about, considering none of the other times something like this came up seemed to be this widespread.

 

[Rotollo]

So we're now looking through the game to see how it goes for us, starting with Shield. My brother named himself "willywob", which is probably the best part thus far.

The opening cutscene really is so fucking awkward, like man, they missed the boat by not giving it voiceovers. Also can you really skip cutscenes with the "skip movies" option or is that about something else?

text doesn't count, only cinematics are skipped

 

[Screech Man Bad]

So we're now looking through the game to see how it goes for us, starting with Shield. My brother named himself "willywob", which is probably the best part thus far.

The opening cutscene really is so fucking awkward, like man, they missed the boat by not giving it voiceovers. Also can you really skip cutscenes with the "skip movies" option or is that about something else?

I was watching a stream and this was super jarring. Why not even have little soundbytes like XD/Colo or almost any other 3D game without VAs. I have a feeling GF was trying to get away with 2D concepts in 3D. The other prime example being the infamous 180 from Zacian(sp?) that would look normal in 2D.

 

[XtrmGamr719]

Or GF was too proud or dense to ask Nintendo EAD or any of the various 2nd and 3rd party devs if there were quirks that they should know about, considering none of the other times something like this came up seemed to be this widespread.

I’m choosing to believe that they/TPC either didn’t care about it because Pokemon Go, merchandise, and the card games are what’s holding the company together so they don’t care to make sure this game was good (or worked) or that TPC made them take the shortest amount of time, cut many corners, made sure to hide things from or lie to people (like we only knew the Dexit thing from the stream that started this), with half of the usual team working on a game (that I’m thinking on getting), just to let this die or to do that yearly thing.

Honestly I’d rather just have spin-offs again than a mainline game.

 

[Jean Lafitte 1812]

I assume that the retail/internal shit work off a crazier version of the SD issues Sciresm describes here since yeah hardware failure is an explanation but why did the switch not crap out earlier then?

I'm going to take a stab at it and say that Pokemon is pushing the system in a way that's triggering hardware faults that already exist. Who knows what SwSh is doing in the background beyond the SD card stuff. It's also possible this is the first game that people are playing for extended periods of time if they just bought the system or haven't picked up a deep-dive game before now.

As for who's to blame, my opinion is that it's 50-50 Nintendo and GF. GF should have tested the game with various SD card formats and for extended play sessions before going gold specifically to avoid this shit, but Nintendo knowingly has a terrible SD Card driver without proper safeguards as well as approved GF coding the game in this way and published the game.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Bro's taken a break so his twin could play his Xbox before he turns in for the night, but "willywob" wasted like seven-plus minutes getting himself a female Sobble, and in total gameplay time, he's got like twenty-three minutes and he still hasn't gotten Poke Balls, and he's on level seven from the lone rival battle. That's fucking crazy, usually you get to have the ability to catch Pokemon by then.

 

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i wonder how many people would have picked up this game if it didnt have pokemon in the title, like if it were, "yokai watch sword and shield", some pokemon are big? graphics visually unimpressive even for last gen? you can move the camera (in certain areas)? can you imagine people wrapped around the block to pick that up at midnight at launch for $60 or pick up both versions?

 

[nonnewtonian]

Honestly I’d rather just have spin-offs again than a mainline game.

Spin-offs are needed more than ever if The Pokemon Company is gonna insist on putting out a new Pokemon game a year.

 

[Perspicacity]

This circle jerk is off the hook. Switches and it's joycons have been glitchy since launch. Now anytime something goes haywire, Pokemon is getting blamed. The issue has to do with how SD cards are formatted and how the system reads it. This isn't it the first time this issue has happened. So I get it, circle jerks feel good, but GameFreak can only code so well and want to do so much. Nintendo has acknowledged this in the past, it isn't new, and it isn't GameFreaks fault.

Game is trash, Switch's are becoming self aware and trying to off themselves so they don't have to run such a shit game. Game Freak and Nintendo need to take that as a reality check.

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[Gamepad]

Crossover with Smash. ZeRo took one big bitter pill.

 

[Changeofheart]

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Crossover with Smash. ZeRo took one big bitter pill.

I can't believe he dared to say it, Zero is officially canceled now.

 

[Marissa Moira]

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Crossover with Smash. ZeRo took one big bitter pill.

At least with Final Fantasy 13 you could abuse the battle system to make fights go quicker and some of the battles were rather interesting despite the game being all hallways as well(until the game opened up 90% in).

But you could also see where the development time went. With Pokemon it's like they tried to scramble everything together in 6 months.

 

[Cosmos]

I caught a shiny Wooloo super early into the game!! I was so shocked, haha. I almost had a heart attack because it happened before I got the Pokedex and thought I didn't have Pokeballs. It turns out your mom gives you 5 of them when you leave so I was able to catch Wooloo.

I love him so much. I'm gonna try to bring him all the way to the Pokemon League finals.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

It's official: Cosmos is the luckiest gal alive.

I had no idea it's your mom who gives you the Poke Balls, she didn't say anything >:/. I only found out I got Poke Balls because I was trying to open up my Trainer ID to show my brother what I named my player, so then immediately I caught a female Rookidee and named her Poe Tree (so original). I chose Grookey and named him Jheri, and man, they really do hand out EXP like no one's business. Almost at level eight and all I did was catch a Pokemon. I don't even know if Grookey has pretty good defense or not, haven't checked his Nature and IVs yet.

Anyhoo, took me a good 22 minutes to catch up to where my brother left off just by breezing through the text (oops, forgot to make the text speed fast), so maybe that's the typical time it takes to get to the Pokemon Research Center over in Wedgehedge... that's the name, right? Hop legit freaks me out with those golden eyes and pupils, like God, what a creepy design. It's really not normal when you have regular pupils, but your best buddy and his brother don't. And yet, Leon doesn't creep me out like Hop. It's so weird.

Oh, I named my trainer Dill Doe, just for reference. Guess this means Kari is gonna detail her adventures of Dill Doe and Pokes.

 

[Cod of War]

There's like a bajillion dogs but you can't have two sheep in one game, come on. Am I being greedy? Sure but look at them. Who wouldn't want both?

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

Do we know the shiny odds for certain yet? Seems like a lot of people have been getting them just on the first day. I heard the odds were upped but I don't know by how much.

 

[iRON-mAn]

Bro's taken a break so his twin could play his Xbox before he turns in for the night, but "willywob" wasted like seven-plus minutes getting himself a female Sobble, and in total gameplay time, he's got like twenty-three minutes and he still hasn't gotten Poke Balls, and he's on level seven from the lone rival battle. That's fucking crazy, usually you get to have the ability to catch Pokemon by then.

Nah, in red/blue and gold/silver you could easily be at level 7/8 by the time you get to the Viridian/prof. pokemon and back again and fight the rival. 23 minutes does seem a bit long but I could see it taking that amount of time if you get bombarded by random battles on the way. I don't know if it's quicker in the newer games.

Obviously you figured out you get pokeballs before that, but even if that wasn't the case, it doesn't sound that outlandish. Now that I think about, I think you get given some pokeballs early in Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee and I remember being surprised because it was unlike the originals. So, I guess that's just a thing they do now.

 

[Ilikeoreos]

I caught a shiny Wooloo super early into the game!! I was so shocked, haha. I almost had a heart attack because it happened before I got the Pokedex and thought I didn't have Pokeballs. It turns out your mom gives you 5 of them when you leave so I was able to catch Wooloo.

I love him so much. I'm gonna try to bring him all the way to the Pokemon League finals.

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Not counting the Gyrados at the Lake of Rage, the ONLY shiny I've ever encountered was an Ariados that I accidentally killed on my Gold cart almost 20 years ago. Well, I've also found a couple in Go, and not just on community days either. I've found a shiny Nidoran F, a Shellder, and a Snubbull, all of which are now fully evolved.

 

[Screech Man Bad]

Do we know the shiny odds for certain yet? Seems like a lot of people have been getting them just on the first day. I heard the odds were upped but I don't know by how much.

Yeah I think it's the same as the 3DS titles. I was drowning in shinies in Sun while barely trying to chain.

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[OddEyes]

Actually, there's one thing I've been wanting to ask.

Has anyone in the streams actually turned on the skip cutscene option? That's a thing I don't think was talked about in here.