Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

So the new DLC has no battle tower, no technical improvements and the new parts that are there have awful performance and don't add much of value? What a shock!
Watch how people will miss the third versions now, or even clamor for more "Ultra Changes". DLC has been a disaster and I told people as much the moment it was announced, you get what you deserve
 
So the new DLC has no battle tower,
See I don’t care about that one way or the other. But Blueberry Academy is an Academy where ever match is a Double Battle with a supposed mini League. The enviroment is literally set up to be competative Double Battles content…and they don’t do anything with it.

Most people complain about lack of Battle Towers in game but most of the time they feel oddly out of place in the content.

This is like one of the few times when the entire area that DLC is in is built on a conciet that would actually make sense but nope.

And that’s what all of my issues with the DLC have benn ‘with this setup why isn’t x thing happening, why are we not using y mechanic or why isn’t z content back?’ Made worse by the fact that some of those things were briefly in base.

And now that I think about it, since the content leads into meeting people that Double Battles, why isn’t Ryme the 8th Gym technically?
 
Wait, so they promised a double battle centric campaign and they FAILED at it?
Oh well, another thing that the Gamecube titles(20+ years old at this point) have over modern day A team that has infinitely more experience and better hardware to work with
Orre chads, where we at?
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If they can't even get double battles done right anymore, then triple and rotation battles are dead in the water. RIP
 
In light of the final official Pokédex (since th Epilogue will not have any new mon), I can resume planning my hack.
  1. Sprigatito
  2. Floragato
  3. Meowscarada
  4. Fuecoco
  5. Crocalor
  6. Skeledirge
  7. Quaxly
  8. Quaxwell
  9. Quaquaval
  10. Lechonk
  11. Oinkologne (male appearance)
  12. Tarountula
  13. Spidops
  14. Nymble
  15. Lokix
  16. Pawmi
  17. Pawmo
  18. Pawmot
  19. Tandemaus
  20. Maushold (four members)
  21. Fidough
  22. Dachsbun
  23. Smoliv
  24. Dolliv
  25. Arboliva
  26. Squawkabilly (green)
  27. Nacli
  28. Naclstack
  29. Garganacl
  30. Charcadet
  31. Armarouge
  32. Ceruledge
  33. Tadbulb
  34. Bellibolt
  35. Wattrel
  36. Kilowattrel
  37. Maschiff
  38. Mabosstiff
  39. Shroodle
  40. Grafaiai
  41. Bramblin
  42. Brambleghast
  43. Tentacool
  44. Tentacruel
  45. Toedschool
  46. Toedscruel
  47. Klawf
  48. Capsakid
  49. Scovillain
  50. Rellor
  51. Rabsca
  52. Flittle
  53. Espathra
  54. Tinkatink
  55. Tinkatuff
  56. Tinkaton
  57. Kantonian Diglett
  58. Kantonian Dugtrio
  59. Alolan Diglett
  60. Alolan Dugtrio
  61. Wiglett
  62. Wugtrio
  63. The baby here: https://tcrf.net/File:PM2F_378.png
  64. The mother of the baby
  65. Bombirdier
  66. Finizen
  67. Zero Palafin
  68. Hero Palafin
  69. Varoom
  70. Plain Revavroom
  71. Segin Revavroom
  72. Schedar Revavroom
  73. Navi Revavroom
  74. Ruchbah Revavroom
  75. Caph Revavroom
  76. Cyclizar
  77. Orthworm
  78. Glimmet
  79. Glimmora
  80. Greavard
  81. Houndstone
  82. Flamigo
  83. Cetoddle
  84. Cetitan
  85. Veluza
  86. Dondozo
  87. Tatsugiri (Droopy)
  88. Mankey
  89. Primeape
  90. Annihilape
  91. Kantonian Tauros
  92. Combat Tauros
  93. Blaze Tauros
  94. Aqua Tauros
  95. Beta Wooper
  96. Johtonian Wooper
  97. Quagsire
  98. Paldean Wooper
  99. Quagsire
  100. Beta Tsuinzu
  101. Beta Girafarig
  102. Johtonian Girafarig
  103. Farigiraf
  104. Dunsparce
  105. Dudunsparce (two segments)
  106. Past Dudunsparce
  107. Pawniard
  108. Bisharp
  109. Kingambit
  110. Phampy
  111. Donphan
  112. Past Donphan
  113. Future Donphan
  114. Igglybuff
  115. Jigglypuff
  116. Past Jigglypuff
  117. Wigglytuff
  118. Foongus
  119. Amoongus
  120. Past Amoongus
  121. Misdreavus
  122. Past Misdreavus
  123. Mismagius
  124. Volcarona
  125. Past Volcarona
  126. Future Volcarona
  127. Magnemite
  128. Magneton
  129. Past Magneton
  130. Magnezone
  131. Delibird
  132. Future Delibird
  133. Makuhita
  134. Hariyama
  135. Future Hariyama
  136. Deino
  137. Zweilous
  138. Hydreigon
  139. Future Hydreigon
  140. Larvitar
  141. Pupitar
  142. Tyranitar
  143. Future Tyranitar
  144. Frigibax
  145. Arctibax
  146. Baxcalibur
  147. Gimmighoul (Chest)
  148. Gholdengo
  149. Wo-Chien
  150. Chien-Pao
  151. Ting-Lu
  152. Chi-Yu
  153. Bagon
  154. Shelgon
  155. Salamence 'Flygon'
  156. Past Salamence 'Flygon'
  157. Ralts
  158. Kirlia
  159. Gardevoir
  160. Gallade
  161. Future Gardevoir/Gallade
  162. Koraidon
  163. Miraidon
  164. Suicune
  165. Past Suicune
  166. Raikou
  167. Past Raikou
  168. Entei
  169. Past Entei
  170. This one: https://tcrf.net/File:PkmnGS-Legendarybeast.png
  171. Virizion
  172. Future Virizion
  173. Cobalion
  174. Future Cobalion
  175. Terrakion
  176. Future Terrakion
  177. Keldeo (Resolute?)
  178. Teddiursa
  179. Ursaring
  180. Ursaluna
  181. Bloodmoon Ursaluna
  182. Applin
  183. Flapple
  184. Appletun
  185. Dipplin
  186. Hydrapple
  187. Sinistea
  188. Polteageist (Antique)
  189. Poltchageist 'Sinistcha'
  190. Sinistcha 'Poltchageist' (Artisan)
  191. Okidogi
  192. Munkidori
  193. Fezandipiti
  194. Ogerpon (Teal)
  195. Pecharunt
  196. Duraludon
  197. Archaludon
  198. Terapagos (Terastal)
  199. This one: https://tcrf.net/File:PM2F_403.png (Bug/Flying)
  200. This one: https://tcrf.net/File:PM2F_405.png (Bug/Flying)
  201. This one: https://tcrf.net/File:PM2F_314.png (Bug/Rock)
  202. Kantonian Magikarp
  203. Kantonian Gyarados
  204. 'Paldean' Magikarp (Ground)
  205. 'Paldean' Gyarados (Ground/Dragon)
  206. Past Magikarp (Water/Dragon)
  207. Future Magikarp (Water/Steel)
  208. Abra
  209. Kadabra
  210. Alakazam
  211. Past Alakazam (Psychic/Ice)
  212. Gastly
  213. Haunter
  214. Gengar
  215. Past Gengar (Ghost/Dark)
  216. This one: https://tcrf.net/File:PM2F_313.png (Grass/Dark)
  217. Ditto
  218. Animon (Normal)
  219. Wolfman (Ice)
  220. Warwolf (Ice)
  221. Gyarth (Rock)
  222. Gyaoon (Rock)
  223. Squirtle
  224. Wartortle
  225. Blastoise
  226. Future Blastoise (Water/Steel)
  227. Dreepy
  228. Drakloak
  229. Dragapult
  230. Past Dragapult (Dragon/Rock)
  231. Golett
  232. Golurk
  233. Future Golurk (Ground/Steel)
  234. Yanma
  235. Yanmega
  236. Future Yanmega (Bug/Steel)
  237. Venipede
  238. Whirlipede
  239. Scolipede
  240. Future Scolipede (Bug/Steel)
  241. Cleffa
  242. Clefairy
  243. Clefable
  244. Future Clefairy/Clefable? (Fairy/Ice)
  245. Eevee
  246. Flareon
  247. Vaporeon
  248. Jolteon
  249. Umbreon
  250. Espeon
  251. Glaceon
  252. Leafeon
  253. Sylveon
When rebooting my Pokédex, I decided to stick wi the original 253 slots, since, even after finding a way that could expand the amount of mon in a game, can you really fit over 50.000 mon in a single save file?

I started again by bringing every Paldean mon, then any non-Paldean mon and Betamon that are associated wi the Paldean mon. I consolidated quite a few, especially after Terrapagos would functionally just be in Terastal Forme all of the time, but I originally spli the Palafin and Revavrom because they are that different. After that, I counted the amount of fully-evolved mon per type. The current Dex lacked Bug, Ice, and Rock types, which influenced which Betamon and Paradox additions I would bring.

@Kari Kamiya inspired the Past Alakazam and Past Gengar (because of that Pokéopolis episode). @Neurotypical Mantis inspired Future Golurk (because Golurk would make a great robot) and Future Clefairy (because space is futuristic), though I wonder if the intention was a Future Clefable, instead. @Sundae inspired Past Dragapult (because of interest of alive Dragapult), Future Blastoise (because of its metal cannons), Future Scolipede, and Future Yanmega (because they have some chanics in their designs). @Mr. Bung inspired the Past and Future Magikarp and put a great case of each, down to making his own designs.

However, History Repeats. I replaced the Dynabear line wi the Ursaluna line, since I remembered the Ursaluna line after I pu the Dynabear line. After all, Pokéopolis had a figure that represented a bear; Pokéopolis never said which one. Moreover, leaving a Paradox Dynabear with a Paradox Blastoise in the same hack would have others wonder where is the Paradox Grass Tarter. I also cu the Kotora line, since they were only there because I fel that fans would expec that line and RacieBeep would figuratively orgasm over them, which I found were weak reasons. Instead, I pu th entir Eevee line there, since I found them too importan to the storyline because of the significance they have to Penny.

On evolutions:
  • Sprigatito → LV 16 → Floragato → LV 32→ Meowscarada
  • Fuecoco → LV 16 → Crocalor → LV 36 → Skeledirge
  • Quaxly → LV 16 → Quaxwell → LV 36 → Quaquaval
  • Lechonk → LV 18 → Oinkologne
  • Tarountula → LV 15 → Spidops
  • Nymble → LV 24 → Lokix
  • Pawmi → LV 18 → Pawmohigh friendshipPawmot
  • Tandemaus → LV 25 → Maushold
  • Fidough → LV 26 → Dachsbun
  • Smoliv → LV 25 → Dolliv → LV 35 → Arboliva
  • Nacli → LV 24 → Naclstack → LV 38 → Garganacl
  • CharcadetSun StoneArmarouge
  • CharcadetMoon StoneCeruledge
  • Tadbulb → Thunder Stone → Bellibolt
  • Wattrel → LV 25 → Kilowattrel
  • Maschiff → LV 30 → Mabosstiff
  • Schroodle → LV 28 → Grafaiai
  • Bramblinhigh friendshipBrambleghast
  • Tentacool → LV 30 → Tentacruel
  • Toedscool → LV 30 → Toedscruel
  • Capsakid → Fire Stone → Scovillain
  • Rellorhigh friendshipRabsca
  • Flittle → LV 35 → Espathra
  • Tinkatink → LV 24 → Tinkatuff → LV 38 → Tinkaton
  • Kantonian Diglett → LV 26 → Kantionan Dugtrio
  • Alolan Diglett → LV 26 → Alolan Dugtrio
  • Wiglett → LV 26 → Wugtrio
  • FinizenLV 38Zero PalafinLink CableHero Palafin
  • Varoom → LV 40 → Plain Revavroom
  • Glimmett → LV 35 → Glimmora
  • Greavardhigh friendship at nightHoundstone
  • Cetoddle → Ice Stone → Cetitan
  • Mankey → LV 28 → Primapelow friendshipAnnihilape
  • Beta WooperWater StoneJohtonian Wooper → LV 20 → Quagsire
  • Beta WooperPoison StonePaldean Wooper → LV 20 → Clodsire
  • TsuinzuLV 10 with unequal Attack and DefenceBeta Girafarig
  • TsuinzuLV 10 with equal Attack and DefenceJohtonian GirafarigLV 32Farigiraf
  • Dunsparcehigh friendshipDudunsparce Paleo FeedPast Dudunsparce
  • Pawniard → LV 52 → BisharpLV 64Kingambit
  • Frigibax → LV 35 → Arctibax → LV 54 → Baxcalibur
  • Gimmighoulhigh friendship in the dayGholdengo
  • Phanpy → LV 25 → DonphanPaleo FeedGreat Tusk
  • Phanpy → LV 25 → DonphanSoylentIron Treads
  • Igglybuff → high friendship → Jigglypuff Paleo FeedScream Tail
  • Igglybuff → high friendship → Jigglypuff → Moon Stone → Wigglytuff
  • Foongus → LV 39 → AmoongussPaleo FeedBrute Bonnet
  • MisdreavusMoon StoneMismagius
  • MisdreavusPaleo FeedFlutter Mane
  • Larvesta → LV 59 → VolcaronaPaleo FeedSlither Wing
  • Larvesta → LV 59 → VolcaronaSoylentIron Moth
  • Magnemite → LV 30 → Magneton → Thunder Stone → Magnezone
  • Magnemite → LV 30 → MagnetonPaleo FeedSandy Shocks
  • DelibirdSoylentIron Bundle
  • Makuhita → LV 24 → HariyamaSoylentIron Hands
  • Deino → LV 50 → Zweilous → LV 64 → HydreigonSoylentIron Jugulis
  • Larvitar → LV 30 → Pupitar → LV 55 → TyranitarSoylentIron Thorns
  • Bagon → LV 30 → Shellgon → LV 50 → FlygonPaleo FeedRoaring Moon
  • Ralts → LV 20 → KirliaLV 30GardevoirSoylentIron Valiant
  • Ralts → LV 20 → KirliaDawn StoneGalladeSoylentIron Valiant
  • CyclizarPaleo FeedKoraidon
  • CyclizarSoylentMiraidon
  • Gastly → LV 25 → HaunterLink CableGengarPaleo FeedPast Gengar
  • Abra → LV 16 → KadabraLink CableAlakazamPaleo FeedPast Alakazam
  • Dreepy → LV 50 → Drakloak → LV 60 → DragapultPaleo FeedPast Dragapult
  • YanmaLV 33YanmegaSoylentFuture Yanmega
  • Golett → LV 43 → GolurkSoylentFuture Golurk
  • Venipede → LV 22 → Whirlpede → LV 30 → ScolipedeSoylentFuture Scolipede
  • Squirtle → LV 16 → Wartortle → LV 36 → BlastoiseSoylentFuture Blastoise
  • Cleffa → high friendship → Clefairy → Moon Stone → ClefableSoylentFuture Clefable
  • Magikarp → LV 20 → Gyarados
  • MagikarpPaleo FeedPast Magikarp
  • MagikarpSoylentFuture Magikarp
  • Magiwyrm → LV 20 → Tierrados
  • DittoLink CableAnimon
  • WolfmanIce StoneWarwolf
  • GyarthLV 33Gyaoon
  • Babyhigh friendshipMother
  • Babylow friendshipBombirdier
  • SuicunePaleo FeedWalking Wake
  • RaikouPaleo FeedRaging Bolt
  • EnteiPaleo FeedGouging Fire
  • VirizionSoylentIron Leaves
  • CobalionSoylentIron Crown
  • TerrakionSoylentIron Boulder
  • Teddiursa → LV 30 → Ursaring → Moon Stone → UrsalunaPaleo FeedBloodmoon Ursaluna
  • ApplinSun StoneFlapple
  • ApplinLeaf StoneAppletun
  • ApplinDawn StoneDipplinLV 50Hydrapple
  • SinisteaPoison StonePolteageist
  • SinistchaLeaf StonePoltchageist
  • DuraludonDawn StoneArchaludon
  • EeveeFire StoneFlareon
  • EeveeThunder StoneJolteon
  • EeveeWater StoneVaporeon
  • EeveeSun StoneEspeon
  • EeveeMoon StoneUmbreon
  • EeveeLeaf StoneLeafeon
  • EeveeIce StoneGlaceon
  • Eeveehigh friendshipSylveon
  • Because of that Paradox evolution mod, I wanted to have present mon be able to evolve into their Paradox formes, though I am going to need to rebalance Past Flygon, Future Hydreigon, and Future Tyranitar. While I nitially considered triggering Past Paradoxes with Paleo Feed (because of the Paleo Diet) or Future Paradoxes with Soylent (no the Human Resources, bu the futuristic drink), @FatMebius' and @Disc's comments had me consider using the Up-Grade and Brick Piece, instead. The only reason why I did not until then because I needed confirmation tha there would not be a new addition to the Porygon line.
  • I replaced trade volutions wi the Link Cable. I also had Zero Palafin evolve into Hero Palafin wi the Link Cable in reference to bo the Union Circle multiplayer and the switching.
  • I replaced Let's Go! evolutions with igh friendship, since the wa you normally 'grind' happiness is by moving a lot.
  • Normally, instead of evolving with a move, I have the Pokémon evolve wi the same LV where the mon would learn the move then pretend tha the move cause th evolution. However, I made Dunsparce's evolution based on high friendship in reference to his rea-life fandom, whereas, since Dipplin does not learn Dragon Cheer naturally, I simply ha Dipplin evolve with LV, instead, albeit a requirement before Hydrapplin would learn any moves that Dipplin does not learn.
  • Bisharp would evolve with LV in reference to its complicated, battle-based requirements.
  • Eevee would evolve into Espeon wi the Sun Stone and Umbreon wi the Moon Stone. The main reason is because that makes me feel better, though that also frees up friendship-based evolution to Sylveon. That also means tha the time-based evolutions are put with other Pokémon: Greavard gets the night evolution (in reference to its actual requirement) while Gimmighoul gets the day evolution (because Gholdengo is very bright).
  • Primeape, however, would evolve through low friendship, in reference to its evolution coming from its critical rage. Also, the amount of happiness causes the baby stork Betamon to evolve into either the mother stork Betamon (high) or Bombirdier (low), since I find the mother stork Betamon and Bombirdier to be counterparts.
  • A similar branched evolution happens with Tsuinzu, the Betamon that would hav evolved into Girafarig. The split being based on whether its Attack and Efence ar equal is a reference to beta Girafarig having a symmetrical design while its official form not being so.
  • Gyarth evolving through LV just seemed right.
  • I consolidated a lot of evolution items. The Shiny Stone would be replaced by the Sun Stone while the Dusk Stone would be replaced wi the Moon Stone. Charcadet's evolutions being based on the Sun or Moon stones reflec t 'hero r villain' theming behind its evolution. Ursaring evolving wi the Moon Stone reflects the strong lunar theming of Ursaluna. Sinistcha evolving wi the Leaf Stone is a reference to its Grass-typing and base on tea; Sinistea, bein Ghos-type, would better fit a Poison Stone. I had Applin evolve wi the Sun Stone and Leaf Stone because they are both associated with Grass Pokémon; specifically, Flapple appeared to 'sprout', wheres Appletun did not. The Dawn Stone just became an 'all-purpose' stone.
  • Then again, I would swap the names of the Shiny Stone and the Dawn Stone when you consider the mistranslations of their original names...
What remains is the items...
 
Wait, so they promised a double battle centric campaign and they FAILED at it?
Yeah. And I do not know why? Like it does not compute.

BB Academy’s whole thing is everyone double battles. And they have a Mini League Club. Because of who you are you get to skip the Ranking Process and go straight to the E4 who Double Battle you obviously. But point is there is a Ranking Process. You can even drop out of your Ranks if someone beats you according to lore. Point is, the perfect setup for random endless battles against strong AI trainers where you grind points and at certain milestones you face extra strong trainers was there and it just does not happen. And the game itself knows and brings this up.

It’s wild.
Orre chads, where we at?
I will forever appriciate for them going ‘why doesn’t Eevee just always evolve through Stones?’

Why Sylveon wasn’t a Moon Stone evo when introduced. Since the other Gen 1s that became Fairy both used that stone? Still baffles me.
 
Why Sylveon wasn’t a Moon Stone evo when introduced. Since the other Gen 1s that became Fairy both used that stone? Still baffles me.
Making a guess - partly in case they ever decide to make Umbreon and Espeon Stone Evolutions, mostly just to see if people were actually using the mini-games to raise affection.

Yeah there being separate mechanics for Friendship and Affection is probably going to bite someone in ass at some point.
 
Orre chads, where we at?
I will never forgive that stupid cow for stealing Espeon and Umbreon's spot in the sidecar. That was adorable.
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Why Sylveon wasn’t a Moon Stone evo when introduced. Since the other Gen 1s that became Fairy both used that stone? Still baffles me.
Like Espeon and Umbreon, Sylveon was designed to show off new mechanics (in this case Affection/Fairy type).
 
lol, lmao even
About 500$ just to have a competitive team in the worst pokemon game in history...
Remember when you could just have EVERY pokemon in one cart, and you just needed to transfer them from a previous game? That would be, what, extra 40$ or however you paid for that game, as you could transfer gen 3-5 pokemon with just a single DS + game carts? I recall you got more or less at least every single legendary once in every gen via events, plus the ones you can catch naturally in each game, so there is no excuse(especially since third versions/remakes usually went all out and just let you get a bunch in post game as well)
But hey, apparently that's too much work, so let's just let the players BUY their competitive pokemon and THEN make them still do the boring grind for perfect stats. Why let players get the extra pokemon in the post game when when can SELL the post game for even more money? Boy am I glad we got dexit!
 
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lol, lmao even
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XFc1mkPiXQQ&listen=false About 500$ just to have a competitive team in the worst pokemon game in history...
Keep in mind, S/V is by far the easiest game to train a Competitive Team in, between easy money for Medicines, Nature Mints, and Hyper Training for IV’s. The only initial hurdle is just getting your Pokemon of choice.

Also to keep in mind - this is a series designed for literal children. The Competitive Scene for Pokémon is retarded, because it’s just incredibly autistic people minmaxing a system that isn’t that hard to minmax nowadays, likely because no one at Game Freak ever intended for a competitive scene to exist. Hell, half the features for Competitive seem like they’re just Game Freak throwing the people there a bone with how much RNG is involved even there.

I’m not trying to defend Game Freak - after this Gen I’m done until they get their shit together - but people who take Pokemon THAT seriously deserve to be mocked.
 
Keep in mind, S/V is by far the easiest game to train a Competitive Team in, between easy money for Medicines, Nature Mints, and Hyper Training for IV’s. The only initial hurdle is just getting your Pokemon of choice.

Also to keep in mind - this is a series designed for literal children. The Competitive Scene for Pokémon is retarded, because it’s just incredibly autistic people minmaxing a system that isn’t that hard to minmax nowadays, likely because no one at Game Freak ever intended for a competitive scene to exist. Hell, half the features for Competitive seem like they’re just Game Freak throwing the people there a bone with how much RNG is involved even there.

I’m not trying to defend Game Freak - after this Gen I’m done until they get their shit together - but people who take Pokemon THAT seriously deserve to be mocked.
I'm talking more about how much money is required to get a team you want, potentially, between HOME, all the various games and DLC. Back in the day, all you needed was your DS and your game, optionally another DS and another cart. You were able to get pretty much everything you need with a little bit of autism and even transfer your Pokemon into future gens without a problem, now on top of all the pay to win nonsense you get a ridiculous level of crafting/grinding for meaningless items to change a terra type or craft a TM. It was unironically easier to just breed a perfect pokemon back in the day if you were dedicated enough, and if you're good enough you don't even need a perfect pokemon, that's what turbo autists who never played a serious pokemon match in their lives and only get their information from smogon think. Movesets, team composition and strategies play a much bigger role in matches than stats, unless of course you're running what everybody else is, at which point of course you don't want your stats to fall behind
 
It was just as bad back in the day too, between egg moves being unique per-gen, you still needed 2-3 gens of games to make an actually competitive team. You could fill the Pokédex easier, sure, but that doesn't mean that you'd have anything above a literal shit-tier mon.
There were only a few cases like that. Good example would be Extremespeed Linoone, which only had that move from an event in one game, or some rather obscure moves on other Pokemon that were given thru events or special encounters. Point is, you could transfer them all the way from Gen 3 to Gen 7 if you wanted or if you had these games, now all of that is reset since your moves disappear when you transfer pokemon into SV from older generations and everybody has to GRIND for hours to get their perfect Pokemon...that is assuming they have the DLC or the side game that have the Pokemon or resources they want. All you needed in the older titles is one Pokemon that you could then breed, or the event Pokemon of your choice. Breeding in Gens 5-7 were especially minute thanks to O/Rotom powers and Poke Pelago, then it was a matter of EV training and raising Pokemon to level 50-55(some stronger mons needed a few more levels to fully evolve)
Unless you were an autist, older games were still not a picnic, but it's a night and day difference now. BTW, there were plenty of common Pokemon you could use in competitive that didn't need some obscure games or movesets to compete, you could get them in one game rather easily. That means that you weren't required to own a dozen games and spend hours breeding just to stand a chance in competitive or online, that was just for spice if you wanted to run several teams(which casuals wouldn't bother with anyways). With newer games right now I am talking about the effort that is needed to JUST compete in the most basic formats, since the power creep got so bad that you essentially need to run the most optimal, overpowered Pokemon just to stand a chance, and that's a topic on it's own
 
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I managed to solo the new 7-star Iron Bundle raid that popped up today, I just had to retool a Gholdengo I currently have on raid duty, the only issues that popped up were the bad CPU partners. Weirdly enough the CPU partner with Haxorus proved to be more beneficial than some other partners did.

The Delibird mass outbreaks are meh, they’re still a good source of TM Material that can be converted into something decent via the Item Printer.

I also did some digging into the Stellar Tera Type and it's really only usable with Terapagos, some Pokémon may benefit from it (I've heard Porygon-Z and Rillaboom may be good users) but the fact that it's strictly an offensive Tera Type with a one-time 1.2 multiplier for attacking moves is kind of bad.
 
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Am I right in thinking there are no new pokemon in Gen 9 that evolve via Trade?
lol, lmao even
About 500$ just to have a competitive team in the worst pokemon game in history...
I mean yeah, until all the games are on one system like happened with the DS it will be alot.

And that was about how much it would cost on the DS anywsys.

The more games in the more systems the more it would cost.
Remember when you could just have EVERY pokemon in one cart,
Since Trade Evos were always a thing, no.
and you just needed to transfer them from a previous game?
A process that was always tedious if trading between hardware as far back as Gen 2.
 
Am I right in thinking there are no new pokemon in Gen 9 that evolve via Trade?
Yeah off hand I can’t think of any - there were a few exclusives, but the only Trade Evo’s were older Pokemon in both Base Game and DLC.

Here’s hoping that whoever’s in charge now at Game Freak has realized that it’s a retarded fucking gimmick and scrapped it going forward. With Masuda gone, Gen 10 could go either way - unless it blows things out of the water though, I’m probably not going to be interested.
 
Here’s hoping that whoever’s in charge now at Game Freak has realized that it’s a retarded fucking gimmick and scrapped it going forward. With Masuda gone, Gen 10 could go either way - unless it blows things out of the water though, I’m probably not going to be interested.
Its so ridiculously non-future proof. I wanted to replay Leafgreen a while back and Alakazam, Machamp and Gengar are all mons I'd want to use but can't because I don't know anyone irl that owns one of the gen 3 games.
Mystery Dungeon already had this figured out by the first game where there was a link cable item that served like an evolution stone for those evolutions.
 
Its so ridiculously non-future proof. I wanted to replay Leafgreen a while back and Alakazam, Machamp and Gengar are all mons I'd want to use but can't because I don't know anyone irl that owns one of the gen 3 games.
Mystery Dungeon already had this figured out by the first game where there was a link cable item that served like an evolution stone for those evolutions.
Maybe playing the old games on emulator would work? Obviously that doesn't help you now but for future reference I'm pretty sure any decent GBA emulator supports linking between Pokémon games.

Speaking of annoying bullshit in the older games. Spend 10-15 minutes going through Cold Storage, Team Plasma guys we captured get unavoidable released by Ghetsis 5 seconds later. Great story, guys 10/10.
 
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