Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[AnotherPleb]

As said, the ones you can’t get on Switch are due to be made available in game in the next couple of years.

We are due a BW remake next year…so Victini is not very far away.

I dread what they will do for this remake

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I dread what they will do for this remake

Since fsns have stopped bitching at them to outsource the remakes now…probably ORAS/HGSS in quality

 

[30+GameOvers]

Since fsns have stopped bitching at them to outsource the remakes now…probably ORAS/HGSS in quality

lol, lmao even
Nothing is ever going to be HGSS quality from Gamefreak ever again. Hell, we haven't even seen Battle Frontier since that game and even then, it had to be insisted by the director to be put in as other members of staff thought it was "too much work and a waste of time"
Even ORAS like quality is a pipe dream. That game at least had soul and thought put into it, something no recent game(aside from the Arceus one, maybe) had

 

[Leaf Wage Slave Jr]

I dread what they will do for this remake

Honestly, with the pedestal some people have put Gen 5 on, I'd be more amused if it was somehow worse off on a technical level than S/V. You just know some jackass is trying to convince them that they can convert the glorified Hallways of Unova into an Open World with no issues.

Serious question - how the fuck do the spin off games seem to be more competently made than the main line games?

 

[6MillionCoofs]

lol, lmao even
Nothing is ever going to be HGSS quality from Gamefreak ever again.

Considering ORAS was the same level of quality…

ORAS like quality is a pipe dream. That game at least had soul and thought put into it, something no recent game(aside from the Arceus one, maybe) had

All the games had thought and soul put into them.

But we are talking bout remakes. The only time they screwed up a remake was when they gave it to someone else. And i’d argue considering they did that while doing Arceus themselves that we only got direct Gen 4 remakes out of a sense of obligation. And their actual plan for a ‘remake’ was the Legends game itself.

 

[Friendly Primarina]

Considering ORAS was the same level of quality…

Idk if English is your first language, but the phrase "we will never get ___ again" means from this point in the present. In other words we will never get a HGSS quality game from now.

All the games had thought and soul put into them.

lmao

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

Idk if English is your first language, but the phrase "we will never get ___ again" means from this point in the present. In other words we will never get a HGSS quality game from now.

lmao
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I'm so fucking glad I decided to stop buying Pokemon games when this came out.

 

[Grub]

Anyone ever play the pokemon unbound romhack? I haven't played any pokemon games since gen 2, I haven't really had much interest in pokemon it hurts my brain too much, but I've been playing through unbound and it's actually been a lot of fun so far. The combat on the difficult setting is pretty great. It reminds me of an old final fantasy game challenge wise, I remember pokemon always being pretty easy, unbound has definitely been a lot better in the challenge department.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Idk if English is your first language, but the phrase "we will never get ___ again" means from this point in the present.

Why would you think that? The only time we got a remake that wasn’t that level was when it was outsourced to another company while GF worked on a game that’s loved by the community and remakes all the best aspects of Gen 4. Which considering everybody said it would be terrible, like the worst thing ever, is hilarious

In other words we will never get a HGSS quality game from now.

The only way we aren’t doing I feel is if GF despite the clusterfuck with BDSP outsource again but I like to think the community has learnt to stop asking them to do such a retarded thing and that actually when they go off of what we expect we get some of the best game. B2W2/Arceus etc. But it’s the Pokemon community so I am hoping in vein I know.

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You make it seem like the games weren’t running on a shoe string animation budget from the start. It says nothing of the soul or thought put into the game.

If anything the thing that might say it’s souless is everything seems disconnected from the plot of the story they are telling.

Climate Change in 10000 years is really out there when everyone just wants to be a top level athlete so your left wondering where it’s going only to be hit with ‘huh, but why! That seems like the plot of a different game my dude’

 

[whatever I feel like]

Idk if English is your first language, but the phrase "we will never get ___ again" means from this point in the present. In other words we will never get a HGSS quality game from now.

lmao
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In their defense, they make the animations shitty and unskippable on purpose.

And yes, I did take their case pro bono, why did you ask?

 

[Squawking Macaw]

I really dislike all the videos now in my feed of ‘do this before Bank closes’ for all of the comments saying ‘why can’t Nintendo keep it up forever? Multi Billion dollar company etc’. As if the comenters actually care about their old mons, as if Nintendo hasn’t changed hardware since the 3DS. As if you can’t get most if not all the mons in the Switch games and the mythicals you can’t get are clearly due a showing up in the next two mainline remakes we’ll get in the next 5 years to say nothing of any Let’s Go or Legends like games to get Celebi.

Making Pokemon transferring dependent on an internet connection was a retarded idea and will eventually result in every generation after 5 being disconnected just like gens 2 and 3. They learned nothing from the Global Link.

Serious question - how the fuck do the spin off games seem to be more competently made than the main line games?

Which spinoffs? The good quality ones were years ago, most modern spinoffs are mobile garbage and even Mystery Dungeon is showing signs of getting worse.

Considering ORAS was the same level of quality…

All the games had thought and soul put into them.

ORAS was frankly mediocre. The soul started petering out during gen 6, and the thought was gone by USUM.

 

[Friendly Primarina]

ORAS was frankly mediocre. The soul started petering out during gen 6, and the thought was gone by USUM.

This is gonna be like The Simpsons forever now where everyone disagrees where the rot set in. Personally I think gen VII (including USUM) still had a little soul and consideration put into it.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

ORAS was frankly mediocre. The soul started petering out during gen 6, and the thought was gone by USUM.

I was having fun with OR right until they shoved Latios/Latias whichever onto my team after Norman. I just kinda put it down and didn't pick it back up again.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Serious question - how the fuck do the spin off games seem to be more competently made than the main line games?

Easy enough to answer. They don’t have to do all the stuff a mainline game does, have a smaller roster etc etc

Making Pokemon transferring dependent on an internet connection was a retarded idea and will eventually result in every generation after 5 being disconnected just like gens 2 and 3.

I mean, all it requires is a connection. The internet is not going down ever so you can still trade between games locally.

Problem is people wanted a Bank that lasted forever and in modern gaming that was never going yo happen. But by the time those shut down we’ll likely have everything available pn new systems.

But yeah. I miss Link Cables and Wifi.

What I think they should have done honestly is make it so if you complete the national dex in each game one of the perks you get is more box space in game

The soul started petering out during gen 6, and the thought was gone by USUM.

I mean Gen 8 was when they started trying to train up their B team. I see it less as lacking soul and more the teams just aren’t experienced enough to tealise their vision with all the constraints GF has by the nature of Pokemon needing to be on the cycle it is.

It was clear from Arceus that their heavy hitters know what they are doing

If it were me I’d look at the team that made SWSH, tell them to go away snd spend all their time just fixing everything and once that was done give them a crack at another mainline game.

I was having fun with OR right until they shoved Latios/Latias whichever onto my team after Norman. I just kinda put it down and didn't pick it back up again.

Yeah that was strange. They felt very tacked on and rendered Fly completely useless. Gen 9 handled the purpose of giving us them way better in flying bike.

 

[Archeops]

Well I beat the Indigo Disk, here's the rest of my little overview.

Spoiler

Drayton's Trial was easier than I thought it would be, Scrafty and Excadrill alone cleared all three Trainers and I didn't even have to EV train 'em.I just bumped up their levels to around the same as the average Trainer's, change their Natures with Mints, and give them a more competitive moveset.

Drayton's team was iffy but I cleared without much issue, Sandy Shocks ended up being a decent MVP thanks to giving it a Fairy Tera Type and Tera Blast and it even dealt a fatal blow to Duraludon.

Kieran's team looked about as scary as the Icineroar on his team but it turned out be a paper tiger. Politoed died to Chandelure's Energy Ball, Dragonite took a decentish hit from Tyranitar's Rock Slide (even after factoring in Multiscale) ended up up flinching which led to it dying on the second Rock Slide, Incineroar took a nice bite out of my Tyranitar but its Rock Slide and Sandy Shocks' Earth Power turned it into a red-and-black stain on the floor, Porygon was annoying but it died pretty quickly, Grimmsnarl was able to set up Reflect but at that point I switched to Special Attackers and it died before it could even set up Light Screen. Hydrapple was a cakewalk and got OHKO'd by Sandy Shocks' Fairy Tera Blast.

The Area Zero Underdepths section looked beautiful but it was basically going through hallway after hallway and killing uncatchable Stellar Tera Type Pokémon. The Terapagos portion of the Underdepths was annoying since it basically functioned like a Tera Raid but it was easy enough for me to not completely hate it. You also get a book from Brair that basically documents your journey into the Underdepths (whose name is the same as the DLC, not that big of a shocker) and it's used at a later point I'll get to. Oh, and outside of an optional fight against a Stellar Tera Type Garchomp (that unlocks a room with a bunch of Tera Shards, a couple of TMs, and some Premier Balls) there really isn't a point of going back there unless you want to farm Glimmora and Carbink or pick up a bunch of resellable items like Stardust and Star Pieces.

The free flight ability you get from Amarys in the post game feels a bit tacked-on. It's too slow to use it for traveling it takes a while to get any sort of height. There's also the issue of the flight controls being set "normal" (move the control stick up to ascend and move it down to descend) automatically is annoying but you can change it in the options menu. There's also the issue of it being largely useless in a majority of areas, it's really only useful to access an optional area in the Underdepths and make traversing Area Zero a bit easier.

The post-game scene where you meet Professor Sada/Turo (the real one, not the AI construct) with the help of Terapagos' power is interesting but it creates more questions than answers. You basically meet a version of the Professor from the past, share some information between each other (with one bit making them less sympathetic depending on how you view their relationship with Arven), and trade a your copy of Brair's book for the professor's copy of the Scarlet Book. You'd think that said book could do something in Lab Zero considering that it's used to start up the time machine but that specific room becomes inaccessible after you complete the Underdepths section of the DLC. I've also seen folks online say that this creates a time paradox but I chalk that up to people not paying attention to anything that goes on in cutscenes, there's one in the Underdepths area where Brair is going through the Professor's notes and a journal entry mentions the post-game cutscene in question.

Overall, it's a decent expansion compared to the lackluster Teal Mask but it still falls short of being an amazing experience.

EDIT: Oh, and TPCi announced that the item for the Pecharunt event will be distributed on January 11th. As to why that specific date was chosen it has ties to the kagami biraki ceremony that's pretty prevalent in Japan and, to the surprise of no one, involves breaking open a kagami mochi on January 11th to bring good luck into the new year.

 

[Thiletonomics]

Regarding reviews about The Indigo Disk, are they still more in favor of the DLC? Here's a presumably rare negative review of it:

 

[AnotherPleb]

Regarding reviews about The Indigo Disk, are they still more in favor of the DLC? Here's a presumably rare negative review of it:

You still see copium.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

So replayed to get Miraifon gor my box and I hate that they decide to lock the nature of the one you face when you face it.

Also hate that they made Synchronise not work to as it did to get Natures

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

I dread what they will do for this remake

Lick N's retarded ballsack more?

 

[AnotherPleb]

Lick N's retarded ballsack more?

I just pitied that kid at the end.