Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[6MillionCoofs]

Working my way up to the Elite Four and beating them, then Gary was . more engaging, fun and rewarding than any of the "more, bigger, shinier" junk that Pokemon games have now as their "final bosses".

Sure. But you got to work with what you got. There’s got to be something on the level of the Volo fight at least and well XY doesn’t have a mon on the level of Giratina.

XY just does not have a Gary or Cynthia or Red to draw from. It’s going to be real interesting to see what they do.

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

XY just does not have a Gary or Cynthia or Red to draw from. It’s going to be real interesting to see what they do.

Whatever they do, I'd like it to be a bit more grounded. Tired of everything being life or death save the world. Maybe they should flesh out all the old archetypes (lad/lass, pokemaniacs, scientist, etc) and make them into character classes.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Whatever they do, I'd like it to be a bit more grounded. Tired of everything being life or death save the world. Maybe they should flesh out all the old archetypes (lad/lass, pokemaniacs, scientist, etc) and make them into character classes.

XY was were they started going mad with customisation.

And if each Trainer Class had different outfits you’d have way more choice than SV.

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

XY was were they started going mad with customisation.

And if each Trainer Class had different outfits you’d have way more choice than SV.

I think I figured out what my complaint is!

Too much new stuff. There is a ton in Pokemon but most of it is only surface deep. Maybe flesh out more of what already exists (preferably the much older stuff) and stop smearing a layer of new over top of the unfinished old.

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

Great, I'm so hyped for a game that fucks up the history of Kalos so it can have a bunch of people hating Pokemon and being assholes to each other and worshipping the ten-year-old player as the only one who can keep the group together fucking somehow. I thought we'd have at least like six years before GF fucked with Kalos again, why's it gotta be like this?

Well at least if "taking place entirely in Lumiose city" is true the taint might not reach too far. Can't wait to see people in this developed city being completely clueless how to interact with Pokemon even though that was literally an aspect of the history via the war. Can't wait for weirdly cynical shit that feels like a western writer subvertionist wrote it that makes it feel like the lesson is "ackshually humans and pokemon can't get along unless the humans grovel to the pokemon". Fuck off. Kieran did nothing wrong

I feel that Luminose-city would be a waste, since all of Kalos is underdeveloped.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I think I figured out what my complaint is!

Too much new stuff.

It’s why I’d honestly prefer single player Legends style games over remakes honestly.

Each Gen has so much stuff that is never tapped into.

 

[Kier Starmer]

I feel this was rushed too, the rushed trailer a year and a half before release is really sus. The Switch 2 would probably release in holiday and not in March like last time due to the economic landscape and production. Palworld sold really well and it had a ton actually buy the game and that for GF is probably irritating. I think they will do a Pokemon launch title with Mario because Zelda at this point is not as profitable as they hoped.

They need to correct the issues of Arceus though and I am not confident in that because Nintendo as of late has been very corpo. First lore don't do what TOTK did and have the most boring lore. The war stuff is a good ground but I think it will be very tame. Arceus was surface-level as fuck and shallow as a puddle, it despite the new style of playing was bland. They REALLY and I mean really need to hire a new writer because whoever wrote the dialogue for that game did awful. It was like Yakuza level drawn-out and nothing of substance. The problem is GF isn't growing with its audience, a large core wants something substantial and they produce slop.

As for the remakes if they were anything like BD/pearl then sign me out, I have barely played on mine just because it feels off. It just feels like a crappy emulation but I cannot describe why I dislike it so much other than vapid.

 

[Two Dollars]

Meanwhile on /vp/...

Spoiler: Yes, this was LITERALLY posted last night...

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For prosperity:

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

I've seen people laugh at Unova fans but I haven't seen anyone being actually disappointed about the lack of their announcements

As a Unovafag, I can proudly say they aren't ruining my game yet. I'm sure it'll be fine but let the Kalos chuds suffer. Or get thrown a bone. Kalos was a terrible region anyway. Either way, we, the audience win.

This form was introduced in Alola but that shouldn't stop them.

I can't wait for Mega Zygarde to just go full Digimon and become Imperialdramon Fighter Mode.

Whatever they do, I'd like it to be a bit more grounded. Tired of everything being life or death save the world. Maybe they should flesh out all the old archetypes (lad/lass, pokemaniacs, scientist, etc) and make them into character classes.

I hate to...sorry no, it's my pleasure to disappoint you. Do you not recall the plot of the X and Y being about an ultimate weapon to destroy all life? Pretty sure you aren't getting your grounded storyline.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

because Zelda at this point is not as profitable as they hoped.

It’s very profittable. It just tskes them twice as long to make it so isn’t really a good launch title unless it’s just held off to market the new console. But at that point everyone’s already known about it for years.

They need to correct the issues of Arceus though and I am not confident in that because Nintendo as of late has been very corpo.

Just don’t make the majority of the game something where you have to pause to check what you are doing every few minutes. No one wants a game of pause screens in an open world type game.

While the story is actually happening things are good. It’s the fact you then have 75-90% of the game being clean up to face God afterwards.

They need to make the story and the game end at the same time, without a giant section of nothing before it. Don’t require even mon to be caught ever again.

First lore don't do what TOTK did and have the most boring lore.

In fairness, that’s OoT for you. And most Zelda. Lore is very repetitive.

The problem is GF isn't growing with its audience, a large core wants something substantial and they produce slop.

That’s because it’s audiance is children. Or adults that don’t pay attention to the story. The audiance has never cared about story. The only time they do is a decade later long after they’ve clearly grown out of it and are looking for excuses as to why they’ve started to notice Pokemon is a game for babies while not destroying their nostalgia.

As for the remakes if they were anything like BD/pearl then sign me out, I have barely played on mine just because it feels off. It just feels like a crappy emulation but I cannot describe why I dislike it so much other than vapid.

Same reason I think Gen 4 and Gen 5 were or are always goung to be hard to remake. People have nostalgia googled them so hard that giving them exactly what they asked for us not enough.

No one wanted a remake of DPPL. Not really. They wanted something more than that set in the BDPL world.

That’s what Crystal did. Which gave us HGSS. ORAS did not do that. BDSP did not do that.

 

[HexFag]

I won.

 

[Rotollo 2]

I won.

Bro, are you ready for the 19th century Hex design for you?

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

No one wanted a remake of DPPL. Not really. They wanted something more than that set in the BDPL world

I largely believe Pokemon LA and the DP Remakes were a contest to see what audiences really wanted. Clearly LA won that fight.

 

[AnotherPleb]

I have very little faith in gamefreak to do this right if it's their a team. Let the PLA team cut their teeth more.
More importantly, how does gamefreak plan on keeping SV on life support for two years?

 

[HexFag]

Bro, are you ready for the 19th century Hex design for you?

I'm sure game freak will fuck it up somehow.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I largely believe Pokemon LA and the DP Remakes were a contest to see what audiences really wanted. Clearly LA won that fight.

Makes sense. Handed the remake off to other people exactly as the fans wanted to make the games the fans wanted while they did Legends and then the fans went ‘what we wanted was actually rubbish’ very loudly. Whoever suggested that nethod of AB testing, i hope they got a raise.

Remakes were always a way to clean up the older games and not much more. If they are going to do that might as well do it in a Legends game that allows them to add way more than a remake would. LegendZA likely also allows them to lay groundwork and flesh stuff out that a remake of XY would likely draw from or use.

BW don’t need the same level of attention towards there remake.

I have very little faith in gamefreak to do this right if it's their a team. Let the PLA team cut their teeth more.
More importantly, how does gamefreak plan on keeping SV on life support for two years?

Special Event Raids. They’ve already made their sales.

And considering Mario 8 Deluxe got DLC several years after it
released they could always do more DLC.

But seriously, they are clearly holding some things back for later announcements this year. Pokemon Day usually has more to it

 

[Howling Janny Dog]

Yeah. I just feel that, at least based on the anime, it seems kind of fitting if we have that to fight against almost a combination mon of the two legendaries.

Especially when Zygarde’s gimmick in Alola was collect 100 and it could be made into different forms.

Having Zygarde from the start and each milestone giving it another % form would certainly be a way to mark progress.

You mean I get to do that shitty Spiritomb will-o-wisp collectible bullshit all over again but this time as the main quest? SIGN ME UP!!

 

[Kier Starmer]

There is something clearly down the road for Nintendo and I am curious about how the almost universal disdain to S/V resonated with the boardroom. Yes sure a large group of customers is children, I would like to know how many because I think it is somewhat less than what people think. They will never reveal it though because rival studios will aim for that demographic.

This Pokemon Day stream just felt "clinical" and almost directionless. It felt like there was a director with a bat just swinging at an idea board. Some of these products are just terrible, Sleep will do terrible as the demographic aims at products that fit into their life actively, that is why Go was so successful. Sleep just feels like a Nintendo heart rate monitor with extra steps. These products just don't interest people or have an initial surge and that's it like LABO for instance. Also, people don't really like shovelware now, just simple as.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

You mean I get to do that shitty Spiritomb will-o-wisp collectible bullshit all over again but this time as the main quest? SIGN ME UP!!

I mean it’s a game focused on Zygarde and both in the games and in the anime multiple cells had to be found to bring it together.

Not having finding cores as a main quest would be real odd to say the least,

 

[Kurohige]

No one wanted a remake of DPPL. Not really. They wanted something more than that set in the BDPL world.

Game Freak would've had gold if BDSP was some weird prequel-sequel-prequel with Legends: Arceus.

Spoiler: Why Game Freak never listens to what fans conjure up:

Picture this, Cyrus managed to summon Origin Dialga/Palkia, gets defeated by the player, and "banish..." to past Hisui (Palkia can do it because time is just numerous conglomerate of spaces or some other bs). He could either team up with Volo, or something more stupid, have amnesia (but his core memory is obsessing over "da New World") and get used as a pawn for Rule63!Cynthia's machinations. In the end, Arceus grants Cyrus's desire, in a positive way (instead of him wandering the Distortion World forever), after the player defeats it.

Why did GF stop with whole Mega Evolution universe thing after Gen 7?