Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Dave.]

Something I was pondering, if you were to make a game or a movie or a tv show that was intended for an adult audience how would you go about it? Or would you not go about it at all and consider it too autistic to work?

 

[Juan's Sombrero]

Something I was pondering, if you were to make a game or a movie or a tv show that was intended for an adult audience how would you go about it? Or would you not go about it at all and consider it too autistic to work?

Massive amounts of autism would actually make it remotely entertaining to laugh at.

 

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

Something I was pondering, if you were to make a game or a movie or a tv show that was intended for an adult audience how would you go about it? Or would you not go about it at all and consider it too autistic to work?

This is a Pokemon thread, so if I were to make it for Pokemon I'd simply pay someone to design a beach Cynthia sprite and watch the money flow into my Patreon account when I publish them as a preview for a new Pokemon romhack.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Something I was pondering, if you were to make a game or a movie or a tv show that was intended for an adult audience how would you go about it?

Just write fanfiction if you want a more adult Pokémon series lmao.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

Just write fanfiction if you want a more adult Pokémon series lmao.

Or play Pokemon Reborn.

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

...or play a Megami Tensei game... excluding the Kids eries.

 

[Fialovy]

Something I was pondering, if you were to make a game or a movie or a tv show that was intended for an adult audience how would you go about it? Or would you not go about it at all and consider it too autistic to work?

There was this Pokemon manga called Pokemon Reburst which I think was supposed to be for an older audience. It was about people transforming into Pokemon, but to them, making a series more mature is adding a lot more fanservice.

Oh and there is a tournament arc.

 

[Lapis Lazuli]

Something I was pondering, if you were to make a game or a movie or a tv show that was intended for an adult audience how would you go about it? Or would you not go about it at all and consider it too autistic to work?

Show Pokémon dying on screen.

 

[Dave.]

Just write fanfiction if you want a more adult Pokémon series lmao.

Yuck

 

[Gay Penis]

Something I was pondering, if you were to make a game or a movie or a tv show that was intended for an adult audience how would you go about it? Or would you not go about it at all and consider it too autistic to work?

A new type of pokemon is discovered. It starts displacing the local pokemon which populations are reducing in drastic numbers. introduce team diversity a group whose goal is to spread this new pokemon everywhere despite its detriment to local pokemon because pokemon should have no borders or regions or something. Main story has you fighting team diversity help save the local pokemon from extinction and stop team diversity. Violence gore etc doesnt mean mature so just having a terrorist use electrode to blow up a train station, while shouting arceus willing, might not be mature. I think deep down we all know pokemon is kinda retarded anyway so it being mature will be difficult

Edit: Im gonna expound on this and some of the inherent problems of pokemon. The reason why Im say using electrode in a terrorist attack is not mature because it breaks an invisible rule of pokemon. That rule is that for the most part pokemon are generally harmless towards humans. So harmless in fact that space wielding weather changing super pokemon will join a child to help them become the pokemon champion and nothing somehow goes wrong. If pokemon were to be able to harm humans severely then the entire world of pokemon we are presented with becomes undone. The nature of the world has to change as right now pokemon are just giant friends. they are now monsters with one slip up or moment of rage or command by a trainer can cause chaos. A "Mature" take on a pokemon game would have a little town blown up by a stray hyper beam from a pokemon territory fight. A "Mature" pokemon game would be one mistake away from jurassic park. This leads into another rule, that of the dynamics of pokemon and human relations. This has been touched on in the some the games on how trainers might be abusive towards pokemon for forcing them into pit fights until one can't fight anymore. This has caused that pokemon need to be happy doing this and that they choose to do this or something. Don't worry the pitbull loves fighting the boar. These things need to be true or the innocent pokemon loving pokemon world becomes completely different. So it becomes difficult to implement a mature theme when you have to make sure these laws arent crossed.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

A new type of pokemon is discovered. It starts displacing the local pokemon which populations are reducing in drastic numbers.

Fuck, man, I think this is what the Ultra Beasts are kinda doing, but Game Freak is never going to expand further on that.

 

[NerdShamer]

That rule is that for the most part pokemon are generally harmless towards humans

The legendaries are easily capable of destroying the world when someone pisses them off or steals an ancient relic. Remember how dumb Team Magma's plan was?

 

[Gay Penis]

The legendaries are easily capable of destroying the world when someone pisses them off or steals an ancient relic. Remember how dumb Team Magma's plan was?

They are but what i'm saying is that you are not presented with pokemon/human violence as common thing. Like you dont encounter a burned corpse because someone mugged someone with their charizard. Or that someone raped a women with a drowzee or that someone was poisoned by a poison type. What I'm saying is that stuff like that isn't explicit in the pokemon world and if it was the entire nature of the pokemon world would change. Furthermore as you said they stole a relic its not like groudon and kyogre one day decided to destroy everything out of hostility. Pokemon for the most part are harmless.

 

[Dave.]

A new type of pokemon is discovered. It starts displacing the local pokemon which populations are reducing in drastic numbers. introduce team diversity a group whose goal is to spread this new pokemon everywhere despite its detriment to local pokemon because pokemon should have no borders or regions or something. Main story has you fighting team diversity help save the local pokemon from extinction and stop team diversity. Violence gore etc doesnt mean mature so just having a terrorist use electrode to blow up a train station, while shouting arceus willing, might not be mature. I think deep down we all know pokemon is kinda retarded anyway so it being mature will be difficult

Edit: Im gonna expound on this and some of the inherent problems of pokemon. The reason why Im say using electrode in a terrorist attack is not mature because it breaks an invisible rule of pokemon. That rule is that for the most part pokemon are generally harmless towards humans. So harmless in fact that space wielding weather changing super pokemon will join a child to help them become the pokemon champion and nothing somehow goes wrong. If pokemon were to be able to harm humans severely then the entire world of pokemon we are presented with becomes undone. The nature of the world has to change as right now pokemon are just giant friends. they are now monsters with one slip up or moment of rage or command by a trainer can cause chaos. A "Mature" take on a pokemon game would have a little town blown up by a stray hyper beam from a pokemon territory fight. A "Mature" pokemon game would be one mistake away from jurassic park. This leads into another rule, that of the dynamics of pokemon and human relations. This has been touched on in the some the games on how trainers might be abusive towards pokemon for forcing them into pit fights until one can't fight anymore. This has caused that pokemon need to be happy doing this and that they choose to do this or something. Don't worry the pitbull loves fighting the boar. These things need to be true or the innocent pokemon loving pokemon world becomes completely different. So it becomes difficult to implement a mature theme when you have to make sure these laws arent crossed.

One idea or theme that was I was thinking about that might work in a mature pokemon setting that is never addressed in the games or expanded media (probably for good reason) is this; what is the power complex or the borderline where someone becomes god because he has the best and most powerful objects at his disposal? We already see this in the real world with nuclear weapons and military stength, but in the pokemon world, would the implications be even more scary or tyrannical? Because it's been shown in the tv show and movies that pokemon even at their smallest can still wreck significant havoc. What is the power dynamic between a guy who has mewtwo and girantina at his disposal and seven guys who just have littens and charmanders?

The reason I say might is it could be a contradiction on what you brought up in your post, but also because this concept would probably turn pokemon in Cyberpoke 2020 because the idea of power dynamics based on human evolution and control has already been addressed in that TTRPG. Only instead of technology being the proxy, it'd be cute innocent little monsters. But that's just one idea I had in mind and it'd probably not work because of what you said and it'd be way too derivative of other forms of media.

 

[NerdShamer]

One idea or theme that was I was thinking about that might work in a mature pokemon setting that is never addressed in the games or expanded media (probably for good reason) is this; what is the power complex or the borderline where someone becomes god because he has the best and most powerful objects at his disposal? We already see this in the real world with nuclear weapons and military stength, but in the pokemon world, would the implications be even more scary or tyrannical? Because it's been shown in the tv show and movies that pokemon even at their smallest can still wreck significant havoc. What is the power dynamic between a guy who has mewtwo and girantina at his disposal and seven guys who just have littens and charmanders?

The reason I say might is it could be a contradiction on what you brought up in your post, but also because this concept would probably turn pokemon in Cyberpoke 2020 because the idea of power dynamics based on human evolution and control has already been addressed in that TTRPG. Only instead of technology being the proxy, it'd be cute innocent little monsters. But that's just one idea I had in mind and it'd probably not work because of what you said and it'd be way too derivative of other forms of media.

If Cyrus is any indicator, he gets shoved (or trapped) into a pocket dimension and everyone forgets about it.

I forgot about what happened to the Team Flare guy, but it's equally stupid.

And the Aether Foundation chick nearly died after being possessed by that jellyfish.

Overall, it gets boring on how someone tries to "fix" the world, some random kid unravels their plans and the nutjob gets swept under the rug.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

hat rule is that for the most part pokemon are generally harmless towards humans.

Bewear kills people with hugs, and sailors fear Gyarados because they're scary, powerful motherfuckers. I know there's the "for the most part", but they're still powerful, dangerous animals at the end of the day, with only a few species safe enough to be kept as pets. The games unfortunately will never showcase these things outside of Legendaries, and the anime has pretty much dropped it outside of comedic slapstick, leaving the manga to fill in such gaps. Though I think even it, too, has toned down that threat of violence.

Also there's a reason you're not allowed to go into the grass without a Pokémon:

 

[SnowBall]

To be fair the manga was never that violent even in the earlier chapters. That sliced Arbok regenerates its body and comes back in a later arc. Lance destroys a city with Dragonair’s Hyper Beam but it was revealed nobody was in the it at the time.

Honestly I am just tired of fans trying to make Pokemon more adult and mature. It never works and comes off as try hard. People want their favorite childhood things to be dark and mature instead of moving on. There are a decent number of monster collecting games aimed at older audiences that have mature themes. Digimon Cyber Sleuth and it’s sequel fits that, and Monster Crown just left early access today.

 

[Suburban Bastard]

Something I was pondering, if you were to make a game or a movie or a tv show that was intended for an adult audience how would you go about it? Or would you not go about it at all and consider it too autistic to work?

Easy, hentai. Sure I would lose my soul, but I would also get money, which is better than having a soul.

 

[Juan's Sombrero]

Speaking of "mature".

 

[Erich Honecker]

Something I was pondering, if you were to make a game or a movie or a tv show that was intended for an adult audience how would you go about it? Or would you not go about it at all and consider it too autistic to work?

I don't know about an outright adult-oriented Pokemon story, but the potential has always been there for a more mature one. Just look at the direction Digimon went especially with a series like Tamers. My biggest criticism of the Pokemon franchise has always been that they shied away from ever having a more fleshed out story or exploring darker themes, in either the anime or the games. Several of the games have a nucleus of a good story but they feel held back by the fact that the villains and threats feel a bit too Saturday morning cartoon esque

The thing is it'd be weird to do it now, and would come across as "cringe" (That dreaded word), because everyone is used to the Pokemon they grew up with which is a traditional light-hearted Nintendo series.. Whereas Digimon started from series 1 with plotlines that featured major characters getting literally killed, cities being levelled, global disasters, "glowie" type figures behind conspiracies, etc. Pokemon COULD have gone that direction as well, particularly in Gen 1 (the original lore and artwork of which gives off this sci-fi vibe with weird experiments going on, and an emphasis on Mons being actual "capsule monsters" rather than just animals), but they chose not to. It'd be hard to go back on that now without it getting labelled as overly edgy or grimdark or whatever.

Also, what about Colosseum? I loved that game and think it captured pretty well what a slightly darker Pokemon game could look and feel like. Too bad Game Freak seem to have some grudge about never revisiting the Orre region (and maybe don't even consider it canon as it wasn't their game).