Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Overcast]

I myself stopped playing Pokemon after Black and White. Not because I thought it was bad. In fact it's probably one of my favorite gens. By the time X and Y came out though, I sort of moved on from the series.

For me, Pokemon I would imagine is like the Harry Potter of video games. A good gateway series to introduce kids to the medium. Even then, it's good on its own merits and it's nice to revisit it every now and again to relive childhood memories or simply as something to mix things up. But eventually, you'll want to move on to something a bit more challenging and complex.

 

[Dave.]

It's always been like that and it still is.

doesn’t the anime retcon itself literally every 3 episodes?

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

The fanatics are shit, but I’d argue the ones who are determined to hate everything about Pokémon past the first couple Gens are just as shit.

 

[NerdShamer]

doesn’t the anime retcon itself literally every 3 episodes?

Technically, it's more along the lines of "mandatory retcon issued after we finish each region." Although, I won't be surprised if the writers have gotten lazy, at this point.

 

[Fialovy]

The fanatics are shit, but I’d argue the ones who are determined to hate everything about Pokémon past the first couple Gens are just as shit.

I mean, sometimes I wonder with all the people who call themselves Pokemon fans on Pokemon boards who do nothing but complain about Pokemon, sometimes I wonder if they are even that much of fans to begin with anymore.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

Technically, it's more along the lines of "mandatory retcon issued after we finish each region." Although, I won't be surprised if the writers have gotten lazy, at this point.

Given that the currently running anime is a hard reset on all of the prior ones, there's no telling rather they'll start retconning shit or include a new episode or special for every new thing pokemon has.

 

[SnowBall]

The Pokémon franchise is full of insane fantards that freak the fuck out if they catch a whiff of you saying something reasonable like, "I grew out of it." "I prefer Digimon over Pokémon" or "I hate Serena's anime portrayal"

It's like you cannot outgrow it and must suck Gamefreak's cock eternally and like it, wart and all with their mobile gacha games.

True but to be fair the other side of the coin where you have people who screech about how much they hate the series and spend all their time foaming at the mouth at every piece of news that comes out is just as bad if not worse. Or the ones who make entire accounts devoting all their time screenshotting rabid Pokemon fans and getting mad at random internet people. Some will talk about how horrible the series is while retweeting and posting porn of it,

This is especially bad when it comes from fans of other monster taming games. I’ve extensively documented the monster tamer community’s behavior in a few of my posts in this thread and in the Pokemon clone thread but the tldr version is that they’ll do shit like flip out on Pokemon fans calling a game something innocent like “Pokemoneqsue game.” and accuse them of causing other games in the genre to fail in the west.

The worst part is that all of these people are just as plentiful as hardcore Pokemon fans and just as amusing to watch. Both sides need to touch grass but that will never happen.

 

[NerdShamer]

I’ve extensively documented the monster tamer community’s behavior in a few of my posts in this thread and in the Pokemon clone thread but the tldr version is that they’ll do shit like flip out on Pokemon fans calling a game something innocent like “Pokemoneqsue game.” and accuse them of causing other games in the genre to fail in the west.

Remember how Temtems was half-finished and people were up in arms for it trying to break Game Freak's perceived monopoly on the genre?

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

Remember how Temtems was half-finished and people were up in arms for it trying to break Game Freak's perceived monopoly on the genre?

...no that different from others praising Pokémon Let's Go Mobile.

(Disclaimer: I already mentioned the game a couple of times, but repeating the game appears relevant here.)

 

[Disc]

Remember how Temtems was half-finished and people were up in arms for it trying to break Game Freak's perceived monopoly on the genre?

Ah, Temtems, the “I can’t believe it’s not butter” of the mon genre.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Given that the currently running anime is a hard reset on all of the prior ones

It's very contradictory on its resets, then, 'cause when Mewtwo recently showed up in Journeys, it was explicitly mentioned that's the same Mewtwo from the first movie, and that Ash still remembered him from Mt. Quena in Johto, therefore proving Mewtwo Strikes Back and Mewtwo Returns to be anime canon.

Journeys from what I can tell is the most fanservicey season to date, but it still apparently can't commit to anything.

 

[Massively Strong Greed]

i only watched the final battle with Alain because they said it was decent.

I’m sorry people tricked you into watching that. Biggest cocktease ever.

 

[Alexander Thaut]

I’m sorry people tricked you into watching that. Biggest cocktease ever.

tldr, why does ash never use his entire stash of pokemon in these fights.

bring all your MVPs, goddamnit.

Has Charizard even popped up in the current show?

 

[Massively Strong Greed]

tldr, why does ash never use his entire stash of pokemon in these fights.

bring all your MVPs, goddamnit.

Has Charizard even popped up in the current show?

Ash visited Charizard in Journeys. Aside from that, it hasn’t appeared aside from a flashback since BW unless you count the I Choose You movie.

 

[Fialovy]

tldr, why does ash never use his entire stash of pokemon in these fights.

bring all your MVPs, goddamnit.

Has Charizard even popped up in the current show?

I think in Hoenn he explained to Norman when he met him that he doesn't do that because "He wants to try to train the new Pokemon of the region"

Of course, the real reason is to show off the new Pokemon of the generation so they can make merchandise.

 

[Rotollo 2]

It's very contradictory on its resets, then, 'cause when Mewtwo recently showed up in Journeys, it was explicitly mentioned that's the same Mewtwo from the first movie, and that Ash still remembered him from Mt. Quena in Johto, therefore proving Mewtwo Strikes Back and Mewtwo Returns to be anime canon.

Journeys from what I can tell is the most fanservicey season to date, but it still apparently can't commit to anything.

so is MTSB the only movie that's canon or something? because the first movie is the only one they ever bring up in terms of ash remembering the events of

 

[Erich Honecker]

The Pokémon franchise is full of insane fantards that freak the fuck out if they catch a whiff of you saying something reasonable like, "I grew out of it." "I prefer Digimon over Pokémon" or "I hate Serena's anime portrayal"

It's like you cannot outgrow it and must suck Gamefreak's cock eternally and like it, wart and all with their mobile gacha games.

There are those types but as a few other posters mentioned, there's the opposite types who despite being self-proclaimed Pokemon fans have some kind of pathological hatred for Game Freak. If you defend GF on anything, or sometimes even if you just express interest in buying an upcoming Pokemon game, they call you a "bootlicker". I think this all started with the dex cut for SwSh and still hasn't ramped down at all. I had actually phased out of playing Pokemon for a few years and the sole reason I picked it back up again was because the hate for SwSh on social media from these types was so intense that I had to see if it was for real. Surprisingly, I really liked the games.

And as someone who was always more of a Digimon person, the absolute hysteria over Dexit never really reached me. I don't think there's been a single Digimon game that actually included the full roster of Digimon, even back in the first couple PS1 games when the roster was fairly small. And I can understand the idea that, with there now being close to 1000 Pokemon, it's becoming more and more difficult to include every single one in every game. Hell, with SwSh's wild area and DLC, it actually has one of the highest number (if not THE highest) of Mons actually catchable in the game. But what the Dexit hysteria seemed to be about is simply the fact that you can't transfer in non-catchable Mons from previous games. I understand why people were upset about it as it's not ideal, but I don't get why it was such a MASSIVE deal that some people boycotted the series over it and are still protesting well over 2 years later.

 

[Rotollo 2]

But what the Dexit hysteria seemed to be about is simply the fact that you can't transfer in non-catchable Mons from previous games. I understand why people were upset about it as it's not ideal, but I don't get why it was such a MASSIVE deal that some people boycotted the series over it and are still protesting well over 2 years later.

Again, personally I think Dexit was people having problems with the state of the franchise and it boiling it over since a lot of people used pokemon count to excuse stuff like "the battle frontier project has started" and "Please understand we have to compete with mobile games now" and a ton of other weird PR shit people like masuda have said over the years. and when it came to announcing it it was just one of the more public weird PR things game freak had, talking about it at a event after the direct that not many people would watch and trying to not talk about it as much as possible (not in a direct, presents, ect.) Find it weird the dexit shit is still going on on social media but that's probably because I don't use social media. I still think if game freak didn't drop the ball PR wise early on and was more communicative publicly about it would not have been a trash fire, but yah know with a company like TPC hindsight is 2020.

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

Do you remember the proto-Dexit when Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire got released?

 

[Acrid Alchemist]

Do you remember the proto-Dexit when Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire got released?

Except those Pokemon were still in the code and you could trade/cheat them in. You just couldn't trade up your exact Pokemon from Gen 1 and 2 games because of how drastically different Pokemon were handled mechanically with the changes to IVs, EVs and the addition of natures and abilities.

And yes people will boohoo and call needing 2 Hoenn games, the two GameCube games and a Kanto remake "having to pay to complete your Pokedex" but the reality is Pokemon was, at least initially, about playing with other people so the idea was that everyone in your friend group had one or two games and you all worked together.