Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[6MillionCoofs]

There was a leaked document where GF employees discussed that they wanted their stories to explore the relationship between humans and Pokemon, but what exploration is happening exactly? Every single game has the exact same theme of "humans and Pokemon can do anything as long as they work together! ", it's not an exploration insomuch as it is beating you over the head repeatedly with the same powah of fwendship plot most kids media has.

Loads. It just is never in the main plot.

I believe I’ve said before fans by and large do not pay attention to the story.

I have legit watched people who played through the games at launch play through them again and go ‘wow, how did I miss that’

I’m betting GF knows their audience is by and large retarded and so even if a minority says they want it only a small part of that really does. I assume they have loads of ideas they want to do but have to axe as a result. To say nothing of the fact they are on a deadline.

I'm under the assumption Gen 7 is just one giant tutorial without a story and Gen 8 was a rushed nightmare where trees popping into existence from nowhere was the driving conflict of the narrative.

No. Gen 7 is the bad guy gets obsessed with a jellyfish. It does not end well for her or her family.

Gen 8 is another example of ‘what do you mean using the evil world ending Pokemon rashly will end the world?!’ Seriously, if he had just waited a fucking day his issue would have been solved. 8 is so retarded.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

Gen 8 is another example of ‘what do you mean using the evil world ending Pokemon rashly will end the world?!’ Seriously, if he had just waited a fucking day his issue would have been solved. 8 is so retarded.

I mean rapid tree growth has the propensity to end civilization as we know it. No telling when that kind of thing will just STOP.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I mean rapid tree growth has the propensity to end civilization as we know it. No telling when that kind of thing will just STOP.

When Leon says ‘hey, let me just have this one match and then I’ll handle it’ I honestly trusted him to handle it.

If anyone could have stopped the tree problem it waa the dude with the busted Charizard that could probably blow up a town on accident.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

No. Gen 7 is the bad guy gets obsessed with a jellyfish. It does not end well for her or her family.

That's vanilla Gen 7

US/UM retcons that shit and now its all about the UItra beasts, specifically Necrozma and his super ultra Z-form dragon/psychic type that is so OP he will fuck your team up when you face him.

 

[AnotherPleb]

Yeah, it was funny at first but even I wasn't prepared for the waves of autism that came from this. Why can't people just laugh?

Because it hits different when a starter is implicated in this shit. Hell, Cyndaquil was my starter in GSC and the sickfuckery coming from GF internals puts a sour taste in my mouth. It's a far cry from a shitposter on /vp/ spamming the Vaporeon copypasta for the 17th time.

Gen 8 is another example of ‘what do you mean using the evil world ending Pokemon rashly will end the world?!’ Seriously, if he had just waited a fucking day his issue would have been solved. 8 is so retarded.

Gen 8 would have made more sense if it was something closer to 50 years away at max instead of 1000 years.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

That's vanilla Gen 7

And that’s all that counts.

Although even USUM still has her messing with stuff and almost wrecking her family over it. But I do choose to ignore USUM, it removes all the good things.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

Because it hits different when a starter is implicated in this shit. Hell, Cyndaquil was my starter in GSC and the sickfuckery coming from GF internals puts a sour taste in my mouth. It's a far cry from a shitposter on /vp/ spamming the Vaporeon copypasta for the 17th time.

Gen 8 would have made more sense if it was something closer to 50 years away at max instead of 1000 years.

So wait, you're telling me the bad guy in Sword & Shield was just a modern climate alarmist? Didn't we already do this in Gen 3?

 

[Lucas Silva #4903141]

Stumbled upon this thread regarding the leaks. 4chan's translation missed stuff. tl;dr - Typhlosion dindu nuffin, Yuu Nakatsui does not exist

https://x.com/Roltas01/status/1846638683371270538

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1846638683371270538.html

Since my original thread about Typhlosion's tale has reached the English fandom, I've translated it so there won't be any need for relying on Twitter's machine translation. This is what truly happened with Typhlosion's leak and the identity of its alleged author, Yuu Nakatsui

The 4Chan leaks were machine-translated as soon as they got their hands on the files. This hasty job resulted in some crutial info being lost in translation, as Japanese is a very hard language to read, such as the identity of the author of those infamous tales, Yuu Nakatsui

Someone who played a role big enough in Pokémon for them to be able to take part in the writing should be easy to find on the Internet, yet the only reference to Yuu Nakatsui is this one screenshot that it's been shared ad nauseam on Twitter, but where does this come from?

Not quite what I'd expect from such a 'reliable' source, but despite my best efforts to find Yuu, I've only found a Bulbapedia article citing this very information. Why there isn't any info about this woman? It's quite simple, actually: Yuu Nakatsui does not exist

Do try to keep in mind that a machine would have a hard time at reading kanji, so it misread the true name of the author: PokéWood and Dex entries lore writer Suguru Nakatsui, who is ALSO credited for Yuu's work. Suguru's name is mistakenly displayed as some sort of 'Birth Name'

The kanji for both names is the very same, but displaying different possible readings, hence the 'Birth Name' confusion while he's still credited as 'Suguru' in SV. Nobody fact-checked this, so the Internet made up a woman and then got angry at her for 'ruining their childhood'

Suguru's stories allegedly display very dark undertones featuring rape, pedophilia and kidnap, but this misunderstanding happened because the machine-translation, while keeping the setting mostly intact, glossed over some crutial details about the plot and characters

I reached out to some professional JP to ES translators who got the translation fact-checked, and cleared out the details: Typhlosion didn't kidnap any child to assault them; but rather, disguised as a hermit, saved a young woman during a snowfall and brought her to his home

Japanese mithology is very vague about the age of their characters, but we can safely assume that the bride would be around 16-20, which still comes off as weird, but it's definetely not a toddler and is more in line with the age of 'adult' women displayed in folklore back then

Heck, even our own tales in the West used to display very young women falling in love with older men. Typhlosion's story isn't any weirder than the original tale of Beauty and the Beast. It's just the way folklore used to be, and Nakatsui was being faithful to the original tale

Because Typhlosion in this story is just a stand-in for the Mujina; badger-looking shapeshifter yokai that would disguise themselves as humans, similar to foxes and racoons. It's not the actual Pokémon we're talking about, but the allegory for a real world mythical creature

This is most likely what'd inspire Game Freak later down the line to design Hisuian Typhlosion as a Ghost Type, since this tale supposedly originated in the old Sinnoh, which would still be Hisui at the time and does line up with the Meiji inspiration for Decidueye and Samurott

In the tale, the woman stayed with Typhlosion, disguised as an hermit, with the only condition of never look him while he sleeps (as the illusion'd wear out). The story does mention some sort of strange yawn preventing her from worrying about her family, but...

While it may come off as the Thyplosion actively hypnotizing and taking advantage of the young woman; people forgetting about their life after interacting with the yokai is just a recurring trope in Japanese folklore. You may find this in more media inspired by Meiji mithology

It doesn't help that they get married shortly after, but marriage in Japanese folklore is just an allegory for two souls to be linked. The woman giving birth to Typhlosion's child is just another classic trope too, the very same displayed in Slaking's tale with the Slakoth child

Giving birth to a monster and a human's child is just a way to represent that the woman may never be human and go live with her folks ever again, since her blood is now related to the spiritual world and can't go back. It's a point of no return simbolized by the birth of new life

Not only this showcase that humans shouldn't mix up with the gods, but also demonstrates that humans and monsters aren't all that different, since the former is usually shown hurting the latter or disrespecting Nature, like the humans killing Slakoth for fun in Slaking's story

In Typhlosion's tale, this ends up with the Pokémon being murdered, and her bride and child being outcasted in their village, despite still being humans. Mother and son wear the pelt of their newfound kin, accepting they no longer belong, and run off transforming into Typhlosion

As you may have noticed, there isn't any explicit sex or disturbing imagery, as the birth happens from one day to another. It isn't any more erotic than any old tale you'd find in the Bible. The machine-translation made it look like it was about rape, and the word just got out

This actually could be linked to the Sinnoh Folk Stories displayed in Canalave City. The second story mentions a shapeshifting Pokémon that would shed off its pelt to sleep as a human. This is quite literally how Typhlosion disguises himself back in the tale

To sum this whole fiasco up:
-The leaks won't be 100% reliable until we can properly translate them
-Typhlosion isn't any more guilty than old folklore characters around the world, and did not groom any child
-We shouldn't prioritize content farming over fact-checking

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Gen 8 would have made more sense if it was something closer to 50 years away at max instead of 1000 years.

Heck, I though at first he said 10. Because that’s when all the crazies say global warming will kill us. Then they said the number again and I realised it was stupid.

A part of me think the number might have been planned as 10 and then someone said ‘we can’t make that point, remember the shitstorm with BW’ so they added three zeroes on to the end. It is far too bug a number to be arrived at naturally.

So wait, you're telling me the bad guy in Sword & Shield was just a modern climate alarmist? Didn't we already do this in Gen 3?

To be fair it had been like 15 years.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

To be fair it had been like 15 years.

Heaven forbid the climate disaster narrative JUST FUCKING DIE.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Heaven forbid the climate disaster narrative JUST FUCKING DIE.

To be fair, in Gen 8 they were clearly calling it stupid and retarded.

And in Gen 3, it was not climate alarm really. It was two people messing with natural forces to try and change the world and the world going crazy as a result and being beat over the head with you shouldn’t f with nature.

Gen 8 was however decidely ‘we have fucked with nature so much that nature will kill us unless we stop…and I can’t wait a day’.

 

[Executive Petrel]

Yup, that was the lore. Where and why do you think all the fan theories and speculation came from about some kind of war leaving mostly young people alive or other stuff came from? Those theories were part of the reason why they gave explanations like that i think.

Yup, when you hit that age, your parents give you some money and send you out to try and become the very best and catch em all. I mean for much of human history ~15 was adult and were already having families, especially in times where ~35-40 was old. But even reality has nothing on the pokemon world. lol

The Pokémon war is real

 

[AnotherPleb]

So wait, you're telling me the bad guy in Sword & Shield was just a modern climate alarmist? Didn't we already do this in Gen 3?

It was an energy crisis, not anything with climate.

Heck, I though at first he said 10. Because that’s when all the crazies say global warming will kill us. Then they said tje number again and I realised it was stupid.

1000 years was fucking retarded. I could have bought 50 years with the Dynamax phenomenon causing some rolling blackouts - while Rose would be dying, 50 years away would mean that his brother's kids would be absolutely fucked.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

More images, interesting tidbit here is that Gamefreak were looking for 3D modelers as early as late 2009.

Did they re-use the 3D models from Battle Revolution and the earlier 3D vidya?

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Its an inn I think, and that's how she meets Ashes dad, he stops in on his travels. You're right though in that he fails in becoming an E4 member.

Delia is on somewhat good terms with him though, she met up with him not long before Ash left the anime and he just missed him. It's odd for sure.

I still maintain it was Giovanni and he is actually a loving family man. Just incredibly busy.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

an inate inner tube

an innate toroidal boat

 

[30+GameOvers]

All these leaks reminded me that USUM is the only game(s) I've never beat, so I started going through it again.
Even at 350% emulation speed it's a slog, I don't think I can make it.

USUM is pretty damn good, I would say go for. The start is always a pain but that's the case for both Gen 7 games. I suggest thinking about your team and strategy while you're doing the tutorial shit at the start.

Wow this RSE lore with latios, latias and metagross now makes sense.

Just like Gen 4 has all this stuff with the elder gods(and pokephillia) it seems Gen 3 was all about ancient Greece and Atlantis. The Weather Trio, Sootopolis, Latis, Metagross, The Golems, the "Ancient Race" of sea dwellers, even the Toga on that Blaziken concept art makes sense now. BTW Anime did have several arcs and lore related to not-Atlantis, in case people still don't believe me.

 

[TNF]

Yuu Nakatsui does not exist

If anything that shows when it comes to a language like japanese you still need a human who at least looks over the translation.

 

[Freelance Police]

Unsurprisingly, there are trannies in the freakcord server

>/vp/ pedophiles are also trannies

 

[Executive Petrel]

Personally I think it's fucking hilarious that some preschooler is an Elite 4 member. It's just funny

Random access humor

The true tragedy is that the two best looking characters in the game are dead

Wokoids killed the only two heterosexual responsible white adults in paldea.

Also you infest the small town people at the ogre island with woke mind virus. Kieran evolves from a shy boy to a big city numale douche who is cocky and insecure at the same time, like the best nuzlocker in the world.