Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Lurker]

I saw it.
I thought "That looks so fucking stupid it would fit in Yiik"
I had flashbacks of myself playing Yiik
I had one more reason to not wanting to buy it.

That's just LaserMan.exe but with none of the cool design, budget or soul.
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tbh it reminded me of the starmen from earthbound.

some of the megas are genuinely not shit, though. i was really stoked to see chandelure and froslass because they look cool.

that being said i do not know if those megas can save this game.

 

[Strangolapreti]

some of the megas are genuinely not shit, though. i was really stoked to see chandelure and froslass because they look cool.

They may not be shit, but they remain inferior to the original and poorly modeled as well.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

The absolute state of the cards right now.

scalpers

もったいない

Oh yeah, and even in Japan there is scalpers: remember that event where McD's over in Japan included TCG cards in Happy Meals, and a bunch of Japanese scalpers would buy and throw away whole meals just to get cards... and McD's had to cancel the event after just a day or so? Such a waste definitely is not just some Western thing in Current Year.

 

[Lone Star]

The only villain he’s ever managed to defeat that was relevant was raditz.

I'm pretty sure 95% of his victories came from the movies.

 

[Registration]

This is something that I never saw before in a game. A walkable balcony that can be accessed by entering the building and going into the upper floor.

Verticalizing GBA game maps this way could make better city maps that could explore more world building. Imagine seeing balconies full of bird pokemon and bringing back sky battles.



Quite cool stuff. Even more when this isn't even an Emerald romhack, but a Sapphire one.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Lumiose city is sorta annoying to be in in XY. A whole game with just that city? Pass...

 

[Flopper]

I've been watching some footage of Legends Z-A, and... how does this shit fly? How do people still consume this slop and think it's acceptable? If I worked for Game Freak (heaven fucking help me) and I was put in charge of this game, was told that the game had to take place entirely in Lumiose City, I would make damn sure every part of the locale would be crammed full of content in all parts of the city. Maybe separate the city into several districts and you unlock taxi stops and subway stations as you explore, maybe there are shopping arcades, rooftop sections, a sewer system with water and poison types, an underground tunnel with ground and rock types, an industrial part of the city with electric and steel types, a under-construction or abandoned part of the city with ghost types, maybe there would be a huge greenhouse or arboretum area that would act as the game's Safari Zone. Have twist and turns and alleyways between and behind businesses and residential homes that are fun and cool to explore. Maybe there's a huge shopping mall with coffee shops, clothing stores, book shops, a cinema...
You could do so much with just a city setting, and they chose to do nothing. A city that feels and looks lifeless, like it's a concept build you would show your boss in the first few months of development.

 

[Leaf Wage Slave Jr]

I've been watching some footage of Legends Z-A, and... how does this shit fly? How do people still consume this slop and think it's acceptable?

Trust me, I’ve been seeing some absolutely braindead takes over on the normie parts of the Internet.

People are legitimately treating criticism of Pokémon like a personal attack, and are just going rabid on anyone who’s remotely negative about it. I know Pokemon is an IP with a death grip on my childhood nostalgia, but I’m more than willing to give them shit - hell, despite my own better judgement I’m still willing to give them one final chance with Gen 10, but with how the quality of the series seems to drop every other release?

The sad part is, Pokémon makes so much money for how poorly made it is that Nintendo has no incentive to change it, regardless of how bush league it makes them look when a tentpole franchise is in this shit a state…

 

[Bitchy Babylonian Barber]

You could do so much with just a city setting, and they chose to do nothing. A city that feels and looks lifeless, like it's a concept build you would show your boss in the first few months of development.

Because they can just dangle the keys of "OH LOOK, MEGA EVOS ARE BACK, AND NOW WE ADDED 50 NEW ONES TOO" (most of them are shit) and the Pokemon-Disney adults will eat it up because it's what they've all wanted so desperately or some shit. When I was watching a friend play Pokemon zaza he ran into the streamer chick characther in game. The whole time I was reading that dialogue it made me want to wretch because it was 'company-mandated fun' crammed into a mold of a person. Friend liked it and found her cute, but I just couldn't get past the intital 'wretch' stage.

 

[The Cum Beast]

Because they can just dangle the keys of "OH LOOK, MEGA EVOS ARE BACK, AND NOW WE ADDED 50 NEW ONES TOO" (most of them are shit) and the Pokemon-Disney adults will eat it up because it's what they've all wanted so desperately or some shit. When I was watching a friend play Pokemon zaza he ran into the streamer chick characther in game. The whole time I was reading that dialogue it made me want to wretch because it was 'company-mandated fun' crammed into a mold of a person. Friend liked it and found her cute, but I just couldn't get past the intital 'wretch' stage.

Pokemon fans being the Disney adults of nintendo is honestly so fucking accurate.

 

[Clancee]

People are legitimately treating criticism of Pokémon like a personal attack, and are just going rabid on anyone who’s remotely negative about it.

I don't see how these people legitimately can't understand. Yes some people shit on it just because, but the majority of us aren't criticizing the state of Pokémon just to be negative. It's because we actually love the franchise and want it to be better.

I've seen grown ass adults unironically defend this game by saying the flaws don't matter because they're having fun playing it with their kids. If you enjoy it like that, great, but have some standards ffs. If you're going to spend an obscene amount of money on a game to play with your kid, then that game better be worth every last penny.

 

[anliteralidiot]

I tried the online 4-way battle. It's a cluster fuck, but kinda fun. Def not polished. I went from Z to U in just the single fight lmao

I'm really frustrated by them having ev training in, but you can't buy berries in bulk to unfuck evs, and it's annoying to choose which of the handful of wild zones to farm.

I also found a shiny buneary.

 

[Abella]

People are legitimately treating criticism of Pokémon like a personal attack, and are just going rabid on anyone who’s remotely negative about it. I know Pokemon is an IP with a death grip on my childhood nostalgia, but I’m more than willing to give them shit - hell, despite my own better judgement I’m still willing to give them one final chance with Gen 10, but with how the quality of the series seems to drop every other release?

The game itself isn’t all that impressive and there’s a lot of valid criticism, but there have been people who’ve been complaining about the series since gen 5 and they never stopped. Those people are always going to complain about it, even if they do release a good game. They could go back to 2D sprites and they’d still complain. A lot of the people in the normiesphere now want to pretend X&Y were amazing games when a year ago they said everything past gen 1-4 was awful. Same with SwSh, when just last year they were still trashing it alongside gen 9.

There’s a lot left to be desired from this game and I’m glad my wife and I have decided to hold off on buying it. Hopefully it’ll go on clearance at target like SP did and we can get a copy for $19.99, but I’m not paying $60 for it. I sure wouldn’t let idiots in the normiesphere that don’t even really like Pokemon try to form my opinion on it.

 

[Registration]

These two articles are a goldmine of information on GB/GBC romhacks history and characteristics.

I played very few GBC romhacks since gen 3 is my favorite area. But to see how much stuff there is, maybe I will play again in some point.

https://eightyc.substack.com/p/the-best-gbc-pokemon-hacks-of-all

https://eightyc.substack.com/p/the-history-of-gbc-pokemon-rom-hacking

 

[Toxic BRAAAAP Mask]

ZA really do be ass, huh. Feels like they took the prototype for that MMO they want to do and turned a vertical slice prototype into a grift game.

 

[Strangolapreti]

Trust me, I’ve been seeing some absolutely braindead takes over on the normie parts of the Internet.

The normie take can be simplified with "Pokemon is always pokemon": its the very definition of double dtandards for a franchise that is so big it deserves the complete opposite treatment.

People are legitimately treating criticism of Pokémon like a personal attack, and are just going rabid on anyone who’s remotely negative about it.

I mean, it is a personal attack because they need to convince themselves the game they spent 70$ for (and are gonna spend more) is good and fun and they need to defend the multibillion company otherwise they have to accept the fulact that they are enabling them into making even worse games later. Its pretty much just an abusive relationship mixed with Stockholm syndrome.

I know Pokemon is an IP with a death grip on my childhood nostalgia,

People got it already wirh Star wars:
Accept that their favourite franchise died a long time ago and all that remains of it is a diseased zombie franchise begging for the sweet release of death. How people are unable to arrive to the same conclusion with Pokemon is beyond my comprehension.

but I’m more than willing to give them shit - hell, despite my own better judgement I’m still willing to give them one final chance with Gen 10, but with how the quality of the series seems to drop every other release?

You shouldn't give them a final chance.
I've seen people go "i'm giving them a final chance with tbeir next game, no wait, the next one, no wait, the next one..."

The sad part is, Pokémon makes so much money for how poorly made it is that Nintendo has no incentive to change it, regardless of how bush league it makes them look when a tentpole franchise is in this shit a state…

How it makes them look? Nigga there are multiple game journalists that won't hesitate to give it a 100 score on metacritic because "pokemon is pokemon" and proceed to do the same to other triple A games that are just a big pile of shit. Game journalists are spineless and will not hesitate to worsip and clean the diseased, AIDS ridden micropenis covered in smegma and shit that is any triple A game.
The non-indie game industry has no dignity, but retards and normies alike will buy it because Muh brand.

 

[Bitchy Babylonian Barber]

Pokemon fans being the Disney adults of nintendo is honestly so fucking accurate.

Oh it's infuriating to know such a comparison is true, but that's legitimately the exact way I'd describe this friend I was watching play Pokemon. He's the epitome of a soyjak meme, he pre-ordered the new Switch, he pre-ordered Pokemon ZA, and he's been gushing nonstop about how good it is. And it all reminds me of how he was gushing about how good the last Pokemon games were, and before that he was giving good reviews across the board to the generation before that. Even Legends Arceus, which I found to be somewhat alright, especially if you steer clear of the collectathon bullshit that is filling up the Pokedex, a solid 6-7/10 he was treating as standing up to Breath of the Wild.

What gets me so mad about ZA is that they could've been creative with it. This is a POKEMON CITY. We've had entire towns and cities dedicated to one element before, Driftveil City is a mining town that also knows how to decorate itself and spend lavish amounts of money. Lavender Town, ghost central with its giant omnipresent graveyard of hundreds of dead restless Pokemon. You know what would've been fun for a city-exclusive game? Exaggerating it, making it so the power plant or Prism Tower is filled with electronic and mechanical Pokemon. The catacombs and sewers breaking into one another, poison, bug, and ghost Pokemon mingling. This is a Pokemon-themed town, it should be able to have a bit of fun with itself. And I think that's the issue. Legends ZA isn't meant to have fun in, it's meant to keep this bloated brand relevant and marketable.

 

[Twin Addler]

Game is fun. I like the new take on combat and gliding around the rooftops. I almost wish I was unemployed so I could nolife and complete the dex already. My biggest complaint is I don't like the decision to keep the whole game in one city. It's still probably my 2nd favourite switch Pokemon game after SV.

Anyway I'm sure this thread is full of shitting on the game so carry on.

 

[Archeops]

Game is fun. I like the new take on combat and gliding around the rooftops. I almost wish I was unemployed so I could nolife and complete the dex already. My biggest complaint is I don't like the decision to keep the whole game in one city. It's still probably my 2nd favourite switch Pokemon game after SV.

Unfortunately you can’t complete the Dex solo like you could in PLA, GF had the “smart” idea of removing the Linking Cable, tying 100% completion behind Link Trade, and preventing a good chunk of item-based trade evos from spawning as Alpha Pokémon.

That said there are Link Trade rooms that where you can do one-to-one trades. Just don’t trade a Shiny, you’re guaranteed to lose it.

 

[Twin Addler]

Unfortunately you can’t complete the Dex solo like you could in PLA, GF had the “smart” idea of removing the Linking Cable, tying 100% completion behind Link Trade, and preventing a good chunk of item-based trade evos from spawning as Alpha Pokémon.

That said there are Link Trade rooms that where you can do one-to-one trades. Just don’t trade a Shiny, you’re guaranteed to lose it.

I already did the trade evos early they're surprisingly easy to get besides Scizor and Steelix's Metal Coat.