Feedback Poll: Self-Promotion

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Allow self-promotion in relevant discussion?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2,401 80.1%

  • No

    Votes: 598 19.9%
  • Total voters
    2,999
If its in RELEVANT discussion, and not spammed, I don't see why not? I frankly think it could (in theory, maybe not in practice) be interesting for soft networking people while being anonymous, if that makes sense. IE, say a guy advertises his game on here, maybe kiwis like it, and kiwis enter the games community in a good concentration? So plenty of kiwis might flock to the game, BUT, you cannot definitively say someone is a kiwi. I think if someones ok promoting their own shit on KF, it says a lot compared to the years of "dont you dare mention kiwifarms" attitude. maybe its a naive take, but I think good could come from it, compared to a ban on it.

Considering this is the first time this has happened, I think allowing it, for those who are willing, I think allowing relevant, non spammy mentions of it should be allowed for now, and maybe swap out rules if something really ends up catastrophic, or something.
 
Voted no. If you're gonna let people shill their stuff, fine, but get paid for it.

I agree that with the various provisos others have mentioned it is workable, but most of those provisos require self restraint, which ain't gonna happen. (or extra jannying, which is even worse.)
 
I can't believe most people voted yes for this.
Hooked on phobics said:
IE, say a guy advertises his game on here, maybe kiwis like it, and kiwis enter the games community in a good concentration? So plenty of kiwis might flock to the game
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I feel like we're all thinking of Crunklord420 and not thinking of how annoying it would be if I started shilling consulting services.
 
I am fine with self promotion so long as it is not spam. If a person says for instance "I am making a doc on retard x here is my channel/patreon" or "I made a cool game here is a demo", or even "I do commissions and I am now open", no real issues.
But if they start spamming non related products or scams/being a massive faggot, get that ass banned.
 
Null said:
I'm actually leaning towards tolerating it as long as it's gentle or relevant. Something Awful had a lot of people pitching projects at its peak.
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I ask if there's any sort of vetting process at all out of curiosity. Say, other than being retarded enough to join this site.
Also, no porn please for obvious reasons.
Will there be any chance for cooperation for them and you? If so, maybe not if that interferes with 230.
 
The Kiwi Farm's exquisite janitorial service would need to be extra vigilant. If 8chan, at the height of their notoriety, could have stealthy corporate shill threads on the /v/ & /tv/ boards, it could happen here too.
 
TAD yes, but to my mind an advertiser is someone being paid to promote somebody else's product. A banner ad is the site being paid to shill a product not made on the site. That's fundamentally different from someone in the middle of talking about something saying "I've been criticizing this so hard because I make the same stuff and sell it over here".

I say allow "natural" self-promotion like that, it doesn't hurt the discussion and the volume can be tempered by the risk of being associated with The Hardship That Is Kiwi Farms. If someone starts a new threat specifically to self promote, that should be OK too. It's an automatic containment thread, and they run the risk of getting shit on anyway. People have been announcing games, mods, or OSS projects like that for years without problem.

Anyone who breaks the usual rule--don't be a retarded spammer--can get banned as needed. No money changing hands means no contract issues or refunds to worry about.
 
Some sperg is absolutely going to try to promote their hentai comic or Kindle erotica and that will be fun to laugh at, so I'm voting "yes."
 
Like everyone else has said, if someone is dumb and/or ballsy enough to shill here (and it's not outright spam) I don't see why not. They either know their intended audience well enough that it's okay, or they're a retard digging their own grave.
 
You should go a step further and take their money. Just be sure to offer ad disable function for T&H.
 
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