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I have no clue what to make of this game. My first impression is that it's sketchy because its coming from Japan. It's really strange to me how this game has seemingly whipped everyone into a frenzy over it, but nobody gave a shit about the last of us. Another Father/Daughter game, but one where you get to explore the sexuality of a 14 year old. I dont think Diana is flipping through gay porno mags and kissing girls, but I havent played it so maybe i'm wrong.
Can you guess why?
You are doing some cherry picking with that Ellie comparison. This is Ellie in the LOU pt 1 for the PS3 compared to Diana. Ellie wasn't always a snot nosed brat with some dirt on her face.

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Believe what you want Nigger and I never said they were wrong about the stupid badge or the weird art. I said I HAVENT SEEN IT BECAUSE I DONT INTERACT WITH FANDOMS. I dont have a Xitter account or a reddit account. I played the game and there was nothing pedophilic about it
& yet you are on here arguing with people about how if they see all these pedophiles posting about how they want to fuck the robot daughter They must be the Real pedophiles for seeing it. I don't have a Twitter or Reddit & I'm not arguing that people who see this being posted & have a problem with it are pedophiles. You could have just talked about the game like others in the thread have. Instead you wanted to act like a jackass.
Sounds awful maybe you should stay off twitter kiwifarms
 
This thread might as well be called Pragmata community discussion. I don’t think I’ve even seen any discussion on the game mechanics or anything.
That's almost every game thread on this site, was anyone mad the Concord thread wasn't really about how totally fun and actually cool the game was?
 
Marge? Why is the official Pragmata dev account promoting a sub which is modded by a pedophile? Marge isn't this totally not a pedobait game??
It was really funny to see that all three of the mods were some type of dysgenic freak. I thought that the sub would be moderated at least by new accounts that were wiped of any previous activity but all three mods display an archetype of the worst of reddit. When you look through the reddit you can see more pedophiles all throughout the place.
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There are two other subs for this game, with r/Pragmata being the more "official" looking sub. I would think that they would promote this one with many mods instead of one with three mods that cater to lolicons on reddit.
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Mod list:
NSwitchDude: Archive (Powermod) (Drama)
supersonic159: Archive (Powermod)
Youtube: Archive (Channel ID, Archive) (Presearvetube)
Xitter: Archive
Nexus Mods: Archive
Soundcloud: Archive
GitHub: Archive
DeviantArt: Archive
Bandcamp: Archive
Freelancer: Archive
Pinterest: Archive
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Freelance Voice Acting demo:

Full Name: Graham Barker
DoB: 1990-07-20
Age: 35 (turning 36 this year)
Known Location: Ontario, Toronto, Canada (taken from leaked ip addresses)
Emails:
- supersonic159@msn.com
- supersonic159@gmail.com
Chuunison: Archive (Powermod)
Nezikchened: Archive (Mod of 2 subs)
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He is a mod on r/Runescap.
Runescape account: link doesnt work, redirects to Runescape announcement.
Other Runescape account, it matches the one showned in reddit posts of his. (Post, A) (Image, A)
DoB: 1996-05-17
Sex: Male
Country: Canada
TheModder15: Archive (Powermod)
Parallel-Traveler: Archive (Mod of 3 subs)
Photo of him at work, he works as a bartender:
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His face:
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Twitch clip of him speaking:

Video of him:

Website: Archive (Proof, A) (Not the sole owner, its a group project of his)
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Wordpress: Archive
Wordpress Author: Archive
Xitter: Archive
Twitch: Archive
RE Wiki: Archive
Extra-Life page: (Wayback) {Both links are dead}
Discord : ParallelTraveler (ID: 254822217458647040) (Old User: ParallelTraveler#6107)
Github: Archive
Pastebin: Archive
modqueue-nuke: Archive (Bot)
comment-nuke: Archive (Bot)

The two other subs:
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Moderator Flagelant_One: Archive (Powermod)
Flagelant_One is one of the mods who came out against r/Pragmata_ and claims the other subs pander to pedophiles.
The porn subs he is active in:
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fractalsoftworks.com: cant be archived
Pastebin: Archive

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Moderator Just-Xav-Official: Archive (Powermod) [Mods porn subreddits]

Looking at some of the articles about the banned reddit, one of the mods who stepped down is JoeZocktGames (Archive)
Youtube: Archive (Presearvetube)
Email: awuhades@gmail.com
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I have no clue what to make of this game. My first impression is that it's sketchy because its coming from Japan. It's really strange to me how this game has seemingly whipped everyone into a frenzy over it, but nobody gave a shit about the last of us. Another Father/Daughter game, but one where you get to explore the sexuality of a 14 year old. I dont think Diana is flipping through gay porno mags and kissing girls, but I havent played it so maybe i'm wrong.
Nah, you're right. There is nothing weird and the story is pretty innocent. It kinda reminds me of Bioshock 2 when you play as the big daddy
I've been playing the game. I genuinely do not see a loli/porn angle. Is there a problem with loli in general? Yes and I despise using that term because we have one already. It's called CSAM.
My childhood favorite game was Dark Cloud 2. There's an outfit for Monica that's skimpy. She's 15 in game. Google "dark cloud 2 monica outfits" and you will that. Does that make it "loli" aka CSAM? No. As a kid I thought nothing of it and as an adult I just remember the fun game I used to play that now has features that are a big oof.
Moral of the story is that people are being faggots about a very innocent 9000 year old android girl.
Dark Cloud 2 was great i forgot all about it. As for Pragmata there is no pedo angle to it. Its retarded to expect people to not make games, movies, or comics with kids in them bc some freak is going to draw horrendous fan art. Just report them and stop hanging out where all the loli enjoyers go. I also feel like it has a lot to do with just not liking Japanese entertainment
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I posted about this in the LDF thread. Capcom even made a lore reason why she's barefoot. She absorbs electricity through the floor so she doesn't have to charge. Which makes it stupid to give her costumes where she has shoes on. They could very easily have given her cute shoes to facilitate this lore reason, but no. It's very explicitly a reason to have her barefoot.
The last time I saw a game go out of it's way to justify something like this (that wasn't overtly anime, they do it all the time) was Quiet in MGSV. Except that was a full grown woman and people called it out there too since The End had the same power and didn't need to be naked and it still wouldn't justify it since the goal of wanting a half naked woman on screen was still obvious.
This doesn't hold up because nobody complained about Lou being naked in death stranding.
 
Started playing today, weirdly I like the English voice acting more than the Jap one, due to characters in the latter sounding twice their ingame (model wise) age.

After finishing it will see how this thread ballooned so much, but so far it looks like standard "daughter simulator" game.
 
>muh antinatalists
Same arguments brownoids use whenever people questioned Fuentes and Sneako wanting to fuck teenagers. No man who is a father or wants to be a father needs a simulated daddy experience to feel that, the biggest proponents of the game are all uohh cunny spammers and pretending that's not the case is willful ignorance. Read 'The Road' instead if you're a man!!!
 
I'd like to take a break from pedophile accusations to say if you're supporting modern Capcom, you're a faggot.
 
I also feel like it has a lot to do with just not liking Japanese entertainment
There’s a recurring and serious issue in Manga and anime where the depiction of minor crosses into sexualization if not flat out porn, and it’s always treated as normal or at least not questioned. That doesn’t mean all Japanese media does this, but the pattern shows up so often it's impossible to ignore. We know for a fact that consuming this stuff blurs boundaries and risks normalizing unhealthy attitudes, yet it continues to appear in mainstream works.

Even highly regarded series like Berserk aren’t entirely free from this shit. Some of the younger characters are framed in ways that feel suggestive or are out right pornographic.

Something to consider is that Japan’s national age of consent was set at 13 until it was raised to 16 in 2023, this as a baseline would, effectively make relationships between adults and 8th graders legal in practice.

Western media isn’t immune to similar criticisms either. We have our own problems and It's fucking crazy to see Null pointing at a game like the TLOU as some kind of gold standard.

The Last of Us features a 14 year old female protagonist with idealized and exaggerated features. In her solo segment, you explore a long abandoned mall, where you alternate between brutal violence such as slashing enemies’ throats with a stiletto or blowing them apart with a high powered rifle and in between there are quieter moments of character development. Amid all this, the story gradually reveals her romantic attraction to girls, a theme previously hinted on in the main story.

I think retards struggle to draw the line between storytelling, stylization, and exploitation.

People react strongly to Pragmata because it's harder to excuse or brush off a shoeless JonBenet Ramsay robot.

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The people who dreamed this shit up and committed it to video game formats are freaks.
 
Japan’s national age of consent was set at 13 until it was raised to 16 in 2023, this as a baseline would, effectively make relationships between adults and 8th graders legal in practice.
Japan's age of consent was fucking weird. The way it worked until they changed it, from what I could find, was that if you were 13-17, then you could have sex with someone who is within your age range as a minor, but if you were 18, you couldn't without your partners parent/guardian consent. They also had things similar to Romeo and Juliet laws, like the US has, where if a boy was 17, his girlfriend was 16, and he turned 18 while she turned 17, they would be covered under that law and not considered breaking the age of consent.

Apparently, the reason the nation even upped the age of consent to 16, besides the issues a national age of consent of 13 obviously brings (like pedos going to Japan for sex tourism and homegrown pedos trying to take advantage), is the fact that most prefectures had raised the age of consent to about 16/18 anyway.

The people who dreamed this shit up and committed it to video game formats are freaks.
I think people just kind of ignore that most entertainment globally is infected with freaks who will put their gross fetishes/degenerate garbage into whatever they're creating. Which, obviously ignoring that isn't a healthy or good thing either. I think a lot of people are just so black pilled that they think "Well there's nothing I can do about it" and just move on.
 
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I don't care about this game at all. Didn't know anything about it until about a week ago when it would just keep popping up fucking everywhere I look on the internet.

And I don't even know what the fuck kind of game it is? Is it a shooter? RPG? Visual Novel? No real idea. Nobody talks about the game at all. All I know is it's making twitter losers want to have a daughter and apparently pedos complain they can't see the girls underwear or something.
Anyways, this gay shit popped up for me on Facebook and I was just like "What the fuck even is this?" and thought yous guys might get a kick out of it.

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