Press release: “Incels” need mental health support rather than a counter terrorism intervention, the world’s largest study of Incels finds (accessible

Link: https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...rlds-largest-study-of-incels-finds-accessible

A ground-breaking study has discovered the complex relationship between mental health, a shared worldview and the social networking of involuntary celibate (incel) communities.

The Commission for Countering Extremism (CCE) commissioned the Swansea University Research on the Incel Community (SURIC) to produce this report. This is the largest global study of incels to date.

Key findings:​

  • The answer to the incel phenomenon is more closely aligned to mental health support than counter terrorism interventions.
  • Mental Health: Incels typically display extremely poor mental health, with high incidences of depression and suicidal thoughts (one in three incels contemplated suicide every day for the past two weeks). They are also more likely to be neurodivergent, with a higher likelihood of diagnosis for autism spectrum disorder.
  • Attitudes and Beliefs: Participants perceived high levels of victimhood, anger, and misogyny. They acknowledged a shared worldview among incels which includes identifying feminists as a primary enemy. They also identified the political (far) left, wider society and women as enemies.
  • Approval of violence: There exists a small cohort (5%) who ‘endorse the use of violence to defend their community. When asked if they justify violence against people that incels perceive as causing harm to them, 5% of respondents said ‘Often’. Around 20% said “Sometimes”.
  • Political beliefs: Many commentators have suggested a link between incels and the far right. However, this survey found that incels were politically centre-left on average. The exception was the 5% who agreed that violence against individuals that that cause incels harm is often justified; these individuals were politically centre-right.
  • Predicting harm: Mental Health and adoption of incel Ideology were significantly more likely to predict the development of harmful views than Social Networking (time spent on social network sites, amount of interaction with others, content generation, and exposure to radical people and content).
Commissioner for Countering Extremism, Robin Simcox said:

What incels truly think and believe has been the source of consistent speculation and conjecture. However, all of us – including those who work in counter extremism – should be led by the evidence.
This study is the most exhaustive research into incels yet and provides a major challenge to conventional wisdoms on the topic. It is no surprise to see the authors uncovered alarming and unacceptable attitudes of misogyny and hatred towards women from incels.
However, the report’s findings suggest that adopting a security or counter-terrorism lens towards incels is not often going to be the most appropriate response. Neither is scaremongering about them forming part of a global Extreme Right Wing threat.
Where there is a risk of violence, the appropriate authorities must always be informed. However, finding ways to ensure this desperate, depressed cohort of men, often with poor mental health, are integrated into society and given appropriate support should also be a key part of any response.

Notes to editors​

  • Predicting Harm Among Incels (Involuntary Celibates): The Roles of Mental Health, Ideological Belief and Social Networking will be published on the CCE website at 9am on Thursday 15 February.
  • This research was published as part of the CCE’s ‘Rethinking Extremism’ series, to present innovative and thought-provoking research to government, counter-extremism professionals, and the wider public. It forms part of a wider CCE approach to providing advice and scrutiny to government on the approaches needed to counter extremism.
  • The research was undertaken by Dr Joe Whittaker, Dr Andrew G. Thomas and William Costello from the Swansea University Research on the Incel Community (SURIC).
  • For further information, please contact info@counteringextremism.gov.uk
 
Then I'm doing something right and will keep doing what I'm doing

Sounds like a date then. 🙃 I do admire your tenacity, even if you annoy the piss out of me.

If they show no interest in you or seem bothered, don't even try. You can't negotiate attraction or interest. Casual conversation is a lost art and often wasted on those who don't have it. At that point, you're just talking to yourself. One of the weirdest experiences I had was realizing how functional I was in comparison to a lot of people around me in college. There's something wrong when people are unwilling or afraid to say anything. It's one thing when it comes to complicated topics and another when you're waiting outside for class to start or the bus to come.

It's one of those weird things that makes me get along with black people ( not niggers, fuck niggers... niggas? niggas can be ok) well I think? Just willing to speak my mind but being respectful about it? White women are really bad about making mountains out of molehills in my experience? I mean a negress is way worse about it, but a white woman is a special type of evil about it.

I don't trust studies trying to peddle a cure as a habit.
Especially if they do word jewery.

"Target" is a violent word just fyi... found that out today... Cultural Marxism it is I do believe?

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I'm pretty drunk right now.

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Honestly those with rape fantasies should get raided. But I don't think it's beneficial for a guy to express his displeasure of not being loved & call him a incel. People who are married with kids are called incels. How's that going to stop "radicalization" if we push said disenfranchised men?

What about them chicks with the rape fantasies? (trust me it's weird when you run into it. no I didn't oblige)
 
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Decent bait; I'll bite.
Does your average right wing incel
Your average incel is centre left, apparently. It's in the OP.

really think observe that women have the intellectual capacity of an animal and the moral value of an object
Fixed for accuracy. And, yes.

and then get confused as to why they can't find a date? Lmfao.
Separate issue entirely. Incels are typically physically repulsive to females, and they know it. No confusion whatsoever, idiot. If they were good looking enough, their attitudes wouldn't matter. At all. In fact, their 'sexist' attitudes (and anything else 'problematic') would probably be perceived as endearing and/or cute. And bitches would re-align their opinions and beliefs to conform to Chad's.
 
Thing is the economy needs wagies and most incels just go on neetbux instead, see the problem?
Since when do you shed tears for welfare queens? The solution is to stomp out welfare fraud and reform the benefit system - not to throw extra funds at dysgenic lowlifes who refuse to be helped in the first place.
 
Separate issue entirely. Incels are typically physically repulsive to females, and they know it. No confusion whatsoever, idiot. If they were good looking enough, their attitudes wouldn't matter. At all. In fact, their 'sexist' attitudes (and anything else 'problematic') would probably be perceived as endearing and/or cute. And bitches would re-align their opinions and beliefs to conform to Chad's.
Maybe the problem is that moids usually dont think rationally and are led only by their dicks. If they pursued intelligent, high-value women instead of chasing ephemeral beauty they would have more success. Very sad that moids haven't applied themselves towards reason.
 
For all the people jeering that "incels" are all low IQ losers and society can go on without them.

What exactly happens when no one is around to unload trucks, or stock warehouses or work on assembly lines?

A lot of jobs that are absolutely critical for maintaining the supply/food chain aren't exactly staffed by geniuses.

A defeated and demoralized workforce hurts everyone.
Men who end up incels are not the kind of men who unload trucks or build planes. They can barely handle retail jobs. Society will do fine without them.
 
Maybe the problem is that moids usually dont think rationally and are led only by their dicks.
Can't argue with you there, except to maybe say that that's a feature, not a bug. And to add that foids are fools to their tingly vagines every bit as much. Because if it weren't for the reproductive urge, we'd never willingly associate. Fortunately, we no longer have to - so we don't - since we've outsourced our reproduction, like everything else, to subhumans from shithole countries.

That said, one's dick does start to take more of a backseat in decision-making as one approaches forty. In most cases. Excepting Boomers.

If they pursued intelligent, high-value women instead of chasing ephemeral beauty they would have more success.
Beauty is high value. Shame about the ephemeral part, but The Wall remains undefeated.

Serious question: how would you define high value women?

Very sad that moids haven't applied themselves towards reason.
We've reasoned, collectively (and correctly), that robo-waifus - programmed to submit and obey without question, argument or complaint - are superior to obsolescent (and uppity) flesh-based femoids. Granted, they're not as satisfying to beat or rape, but it's only a matter of time before technology delivers what the market demands, such as realistic, responsive-in-realtime black eyes and bruising (perhaps even crackable ribs), and the simulation of the kind of shuddering orgasm women are only privileged to experience when aggressively violated and degraded. When such exciting innovations become affordable and reach mass adoption, it's all over for wahmens's sexual fulfillment; in the future you're going to have to literally ask for it.
 
We've reasoned, collectively (and correctly), that robo-waifus - programmed to submit and obey without question, argument or complaint - are superior to obsolescent (and uppity) flesh-based femoids. Granted, they're not as satisfying to beat or rape, but it's only a matter of time before technology delivers what the market demands, such as realistic, responsive-in-realtime black eyes and bruising (perhaps even crackable ribs), and the simulation of the kind of shuddering orgasm women are only privileged to experience when aggressively violated and degraded. When such exciting innovations become affordable and reach mass adoption, it's all over for wahmens's sexual fulfillment; in the future you're going to have to literally ask for it.
Your charming personality reveals why you may struggle with finding a suitable partner. May I suggest adopting a small animal to take care of?
 
One big problem is that most incels are asian or indian. Pajeets and chinks need some love and women need to let go of matriarchal western handsome-standards.
 
One big problem is that most incels are asian or indian. Pajeets and chinks need some love and women need to let go of matriarchal western handsome-standards.
Pajeets and chinks don't deserve love and neither does anyone else. Inceldom isn't a problem really because not getting your dick wet isn't actually that much of a societal concern, and is only a minor one because people frown on chads impregnating five women and having massive families. Maybe we should just ditch monogamy and have a more genetically healthy society, either that or dumbass moids can stop bitching.
 
Pajeets and chinks don't deserve love and neither does anyone else. Inceldom isn't a problem really because not getting your dick wet isn't actually that much of a societal concern, and is only a minor one because people frown on chads impregnating five women and having massive families. Maybe we should just ditch monogamy and have a more genetically healthy society, either that or dumbass moids can stop bitching.
Problem is that a lot of the intelligence is situated in Japanese men, and we are losing those genes fast. Myself I'd happily impregnate five women, but the pajeets and chinks pushing down wages makes it hard. Otherwise i'm all for ditching monogamy.
 
Problem is that a lot of the intelligence is situated in Japanese men, and we are losing those genes fast. Myself I'd happily impregnate five women, but the pajeets and chinks pushing down wages makes it hard. Otherwise i'm all for ditching monogamy.
"Intelligence is situated in Japanese men" is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. You better not impregnate anyone if you're autistic enough to believe that.
 
A huge part of the creation of incels is the nonexistence of parenting in the united states and the inability of young men to find jobs and have employable skills, as public education prepares people for wagie jobs and actively tries to discourage things like entrepreneurship. It wouldn't be so bad, except our economy is stagnant and any measures to improve it are to 'juke the stats' for reelection campaigns. They'll tell you jobs are up, they won't mention everyone is earning shit wages on them. Young men with no economic prospects do not get women. This is not the first time this has happened in history, the attitudes are different due to drastically different social mores.

But also we have a mainstream society actively promoting things in men that make them unattractive to women. Video games, making boys stay inside, actively discouraging rough-and-tumble playing, none of this promotes a good and healthy body. American food is designed to get people fat and continually eating to "stimulate the economy." Regardless of what women say, and yes, they ALL lie in this regard, like fit and more muscular men. A few might like teddy bears, but they still have some muscle on their fat, and you have the muscular physique of a pasta al dente vermicelli, you're gonna get passed up. School sports aren't the solution because they're toxic, usually run by connected parents and teachers that want to promote star athletes and the connected kids to get them scholarships and glory for their family since Americans really obsess about high school sports for the dumbest fucking reasons. The jocks and star athletes will bully the lower status kids away from school sports while the coaches (who peaked in high school themselves) pretend they don't know what's going on.

Then on the other hand you have social media telling women that they are all queens and should only go for the most wealthiest guys and any guy that doesn't unload a ton of money on them isn't worth it, all the while women thinking they don't have anything they need to offer men and their time and pussies are the most precious things in the world. On top of low economic prospects these men have to sort through a lot of gutter women that are abusive and, when they reject men, make it a game to be as mean as possible to peacock to their girlfriends. Women don't just turn men down nicely, especially low status men, especially not these days.

This can turn into a powder keg if it gets worse.

Problem is that a lot of the intelligence is situated in Japanese men, and we are losing those genes fast. Myself I'd happily impregnate five women, but the pajeets and chinks pushing down wages makes it hard. Otherwise i'm all for ditching monogamy.
Dude, no. Do you even know what is going on in Japan? They're breeding less than we do.
Your charming personality reveals why you may struggle with finding a suitable partner. May I suggest adopting a small animal to take care of?
Will you women stop? It's no secret to guys, whether it's losers or Chads that women will still date complete and utter assholes. If a ripped 6'2" guy says the same things Elliott Rodger did he could still easily get laid.
 
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Oh no, you must have misunderstood. I meant that you should adopt a small kitten or rat or something of the like to help develop empathy and a sense of compassion for your fellow creatures. That's all.
Hang on... if I develop empathy and a sense of compassion for small mammals, those feelings may start to extend to other, lesser species, such as... women, or other reptiles. Oh, no, no, no, I see what you're up to. Cunning bitch, almost got me.
 
Hang on... if I develop empathy and a sense of compassion for small mammals, those feelings may start to extend to other, lesser species, such as... women, or other reptiles. Oh, no, no, no, I see what you're up to. Cunning bitch, almost got me.
You're helping me develop more empathy for the autistic as we speak, cheers!

Edit: This is gonna sound dumb but why can I not quote @Harbinger of Kali Yuga
 
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