Press release: “Incels” need mental health support rather than a counter terrorism intervention, the world’s largest study of Incels finds (accessible

Link: https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...rlds-largest-study-of-incels-finds-accessible

A ground-breaking study has discovered the complex relationship between mental health, a shared worldview and the social networking of involuntary celibate (incel) communities.

The Commission for Countering Extremism (CCE) commissioned the Swansea University Research on the Incel Community (SURIC) to produce this report. This is the largest global study of incels to date.

Key findings:​

• The answer to the incel phenomenon is more closely aligned to mental health support than counter terrorism interventions.
• Mental Health: Incels typically display extremely poor mental health, with high incidences of depression and suicidal thoughts (one in three incels contemplated suicide every day for the past two weeks). They are also more likely to be neurodivergent, with a higher likelihood of diagnosis for autism spectrum disorder.
• Attitudes and Beliefs: Participants perceived high levels of victimhood, anger, and misogyny. They acknowledged a shared worldview among incels which includes identifying feminists as a primary enemy. They also identified the political (far) left, wider society and women as enemies.
• Approval of violence: There exists a small cohort (5%) who ‘endorse the use of violence to defend their community. When asked if they justify violence against people that incels perceive as causing harm to them, 5% of respondents said ‘Often’. Around 20% said “Sometimes”.
• Political beliefs: Many commentators have suggested a link between incels and the far right. However, this survey found that incels were politically centre-left on average. The exception was the 5% who agreed that violence against individuals that that cause incels harm is often justified; these individuals were politically centre-right.
• Predicting harm: Mental Health and adoption of incel Ideology were significantly more likely to predict the development of harmful views than Social Networking (time spent on social network sites, amount of interaction with others, content generation, and exposure to radical people and content).

Commissioner for Countering Extremism, Robin Simcox said:

What incels truly think and believe has been the source of consistent speculation and conjecture. However, all of us – including those who work in counter extremism – should be led by the evidence.
This study is the most exhaustive research into incels yet and provides a major challenge to conventional wisdoms on the topic. It is no surprise to see the authors uncovered alarming and unacceptable attitudes of misogyny and hatred towards women from incels.
However, the report’s findings suggest that adopting a security or counter-terrorism lens towards incels is not often going to be the most appropriate response. Neither is scaremongering about them forming part of a global Extreme Right Wing threat.
Where there is a risk of violence, the appropriate authorities must always be informed. However, finding ways to ensure this desperate, depressed cohort of men, often with poor mental health, are integrated into society and given appropriate support should also be a key part of any response.

Notes to editors​

• Predicting Harm Among Incels (Involuntary Celibates): The Roles of Mental Health, Ideological Belief and Social Networking will be published on the CCE website at 9am on Thursday 15 February.
• This research was published as part of the CCE’s ‘Rethinking Extremism’ series, to present innovative and thought-provoking research to government, counter-extremism professionals, and the wider public. It forms part of a wider CCE approach to providing advice and scrutiny to government on the approaches needed to counter extremism.
• The research was undertaken by Dr Joe Whittaker, Dr Andrew G. Thomas and William Costello from the Swansea University Research on the Incel Community (SURIC).
• For further information, please contact info@counteringextremism.gov.uk

 

[Bungdit Din]

Perhaps they already were: At home or at school.

Oh, indeed. But beaten down, and kicked in the wrong direction. Everything to undermine their confidence and constrain their physicality. It's the intent that counts. Echoing Jordan Peterson, here, but you need to become somewhat formidable and dangerous. Knowing - or finding out/realizing - that you could (not at all saying you should) end some bitch if she givers you too much static gives you a whole new perspective. Sounds psychotic, but saying to oneself, "Lady, you're only breathing because of my forbearance. You are alive because I continue to permit it." is a blissful feeling.

They can have six-pack and chop planks but still spill their spaghetti when talking to a girl. It's more nuanced than that, boss.

The point is to have priorities - a mission - above wahmens. Insanely difficult, especially when young, but outcome independence is crucial. Besides, if a chick finds you attractive, it almost doesn't matter what you say (and the less you say the better), she'll find it 'cute', if you're cute enough.

Edit: anyway, fuck bitches, boys better be getting prepped for the boogaloo. Raep will be back on the menu, soon enough - and you don't want it to be your ass getting violated.

 

[AnotherPleb]

I feel like the issue with this is that a LOT of young men seem to wind up in dead end jobs these days. I don't think it's all because of "muh DEI".

Why would the men try hard to advance when they know promotions are based on how brown you are or if you have a pussy?

 

[Spud]

@spud

The funny thing is that it has never been easier thanks to all modern technological advancements. I guess those smart guys aren't as smart you make them out to be or they would have figured out a way to fix their situation.

 

[Celestial Peace]

'DEM KIDS WITH 'DEM CELLPHONES CAN'T FUCKING LOAD A SEMI THAT'S WHY THIS COUNTRY IS IN THE SHITTER. WHERE'S MY KERLONE?

Dumbasses like you often forget tech is usually expensive and tax-costing. Companies don't want to spend resources on high-tech shit because they're busy reducing costs with layovers one after another because the economy is going kaput.

But, yeah, current generation are fucking Albert Einstein incarnate so these kids are all lazy. All these chickenshit men have to do is to get close to the girl and invite her out to bowling or take her to watch Saturday Night Fever.

What? The fuck's a troon? What's a BPD? What's this "OnlyFans" thing kids often talk about? I have boys telling me their girlfriends have one of these. Is that why they want to kill themselves? Over that? Kids these days...

 

[Spud]

All these chickenshit men have to do is to get close to the girl and invite her out

Yeah, you ask them if they want to get a drink. Over an app or face 2 face is your preference, or you can keep blaming an out-group for all your problems, I personally like to use the Rothschild family. What's YOUR plan to fix YOUR situation?

Companies don't

How exactly does a random company affect your ability to fix your problems?

 

[Celestial Peace]

RETARD SAYING RETARDED SHIT

Man, first of all, learn how to quote properly. Second, learn text comprehension.

I really doubt you say such stupid shit in front of a woman. If you do you're just as cringe and retarded as incels. If not, you're just a hypocrite giving out advice you yourself don't even follow like most braggarts.

 

[lautaro]

Bring back the old custom of uncles taking their 13 years old nephews to whorehouses. There, solved.


Any boy aged 15 that hasn't got sex yet can solicite a free half-hour with a prostitute, but only once. He will be provided with a kit of condoms and STD prevention leaflets, of course.

 

[Manimal House]

"Mental Health" support isn't going to do jack shit unless it's some new type of program with the purpose of giving men an outlet/hobby methodized by getting them out of the damn house and off the smartphone.

IMO there are three reasons there's been such a huge incel increase:
1. too much porn
2. not enough struggle
3. population saturation

Spoiler

1. Whatever your views on porn are, no one can deny that it is addictive and having a magic window to it 24/7 that you can carry in your pocket has fucked people up royally. You don't even have to look for it to find it, just open up the search bar on Instagram and immediately there are a dozen results of risque models that appear without even searching for anything. Back in the 90's and early 2000's, porn was only available through certain methods and free porn was a novel concept. Women are impacted in a different way where now even some random chick living in a mountain town can make an Onlyfans and get money from desperate men without much hassle. I don't need to explain how too much porn leads to having an incel brain, but I can guarantee that it's going to get worse before it gets better. Much worse.
2. Birth rates used to be high in the past before technological advancements and having a family served more of a purpose than it does now. As time went on, birth rates started to decrease more and more when it became easier to survive. Right now, the countries with the highest birth rates are the biggest shitholes like the fucking Congo. Standards have been lowered all over the place and as a result, generations have gotten lazier and/or dumber. This has created a ridiculous amount of people that can live without going outside. Maybe this is more of a talking point that addresses the competency crisis, but I honestly believe that the incel crisis is linked to that as well. Plus, overcoming hardships builds confidence, and if a guy's life is struggle-free then there's not much to be confident about. Lacking confidence ruins any chance a guy has at getting a date. Same goes for women who don't even have to be able to physically walk down the street to get a guy to come over for the night due to the multiple meetup apps available.
3. Ultimately I think this is the biggest reason. And not because 'there's too many people low birth rates are good' reason that anti-natalists like to spout. It's because there's so many people in high populated countries that half the population is basically invisible. The countries with the lowest birth rates tend to be the most densely packed ones. Plenty are having kids and getting laid just fine but because there are so many that aren't it looks more like a crisis than it really is. Incels have always been around, you just see them a lot more these days because the Internet has made them easy to find. And since people aren't dying in massive numbers like they used to before the 50's, we have a surplus of mediocrity. Unless a huge war, planetary devestation, internet perma-outage or plague breaks out that kills the billions who weren't able to survive, I don't see much of a solution for this because we can only make so many suburbs.

 

[Spud]

Man, first of all, learn how to quote properly. Second, learn text comprehension.

All your problems are self inflicted and it's not my job to save you from yourself and your poor decisions. Pic related.

I really doubt you say such stupid shit in front of a woman.

No shit retard. It's a part of being charming, learning what to and not say in everyday conversation. On the Internet to whiny faggots is another story.

 

[Balr0g]

Why would the men try hard to advance when they know promotions are based on how brown you are or if you have a pussy?

Smart men learn how to screw the system by using loopholes like declaring themselves women (where possible) Like in Spain where male cops went to the administration declared themslves female (without cutting their balls of) just to earn promotions meant for women.

 

[Bungdit Din]

Unless a huge war, planetary devestation, internet perma-outage or plague breaks out that kills the billions who weren't able to survive, I don't see much of a solution for this because we can only make so many suburbs.

Welcome to The Great Reset. What do we see happening, has happened, or is about to happen. It's almost as if the solution to the problem has been decided upon and is being enacted, right in front of us. Nah, crazy talk...

 

[Celestial Peace]

All your problems are self inflicted and it's not my job to save you from yourself and your poor decisions. Pic related.
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No shit retard. It's a part of being charming, learning what to and not say in everyday conversation. On the Internet to whiny faggots is another story.

As always, you're making a huge effort to make an ass outta yourself.

And given your overbearing retardation I doubt you have a filter for your words when talking to a girl.

 

[Spud]

As always, you're making a huge effort to make an ass outta yourself.

I'd say look in the mirror but that would require you to do something that isn't moaning on the Internet. Keep blaming the people who do stuff though, I'm sure it'll solve all your problems.

 

[Celestial Peace]

Keep blaming the people who do stuff

>do stuff
Nigga, get the fuck outta here.

 

[Spud]

>do stuff
Nigga, get the fuck outta here.

I firmly believe that a lot of your problems will be solved by you doing something about them but I guess crying on the Internet is more your style.

 

[cybertoaster]

Welcome to The Great Reset

The great reset is the status quo doing anything it can to keep things the way they are, for them. They really don't like how the plebes are noticing that a lot of the pollution that's causing trouble is coming from business jets that spew more carbon in one single flight than a house does in an entire year, gigamansions the size of a small mall that need to be heated and cooled for like 5 people in there, megayatchs that again are only used by one guy and his two live-in prostitutes. There have been plans for legislation to ban all those or tax them to the point billionaires would have to fly first class (the horror!) live in a regular mansion (unbelievable!) and maybe just go into a top of the line cruise with other rich people like in the ol' days (unthinkable!).

So to keep them in their ever growing luxury without completely obliterating the planet you have to live in ze pod, eat ze bugs and own nozhing, it is essentially a return to serfdom but you got a smartphone now.

>inb4 "commie"

Commies are actually okay with this arrangement as long as its the party (them) instead of the billionaires on top. In every commie country there ever was there's always a higher echelon, the nomenklatura in soviet times, who lives in absolute luxury paid for by the state while everybody else had to wake up at 3AM to wait in line for bread that was at best just 20% sawdust. Hell you have a mini version of this with turkroach hasan living in a mansion and driving a porsche all paid by his simps drowning in student debt, renting for life and underemployed or unemployed.