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BurtyDrappedCreifs said:
Marvin said:
I'm sure she'd have an interesting story to tell, but I don't think she really deserves the attention. Maybe sometime someone could get the story from Chris.

And what a steaming pile of horse ploppie THAT story is going to be, as told by the Manbaby With Something To Prove.
Eh, I really don't think there's much that Chris could fuck up. He'll exaggerate somethings, but mostly, you'll be able to get the story out of what he wrote. It's pretty straightforward.
 
Marvin said:
BurtyDrappedCreifs said:
Marvin said:
I'm sure she'd have an interesting story to tell, but I don't think she really deserves the attention. Maybe sometime someone could get the story from Chris.

And what a steaming pile of horse ploppie THAT story is going to be, as told by the Manbaby With Something To Prove.
Eh, I really don't think there's much that Chris could fuck up. He'll exaggerate somethings, but mostly, you'll be able to get the story out of what he wrote. It's pretty straightforward.
You get it then. We don't know how to get a goddamn in with him and you already got one.

Unless there's hoarded cocks hidden in the hoarded cocks that we somehow missed (like how Thorg alluded to his getting into contact with Chris).
 
I know him telling us would defeat the whole purpose and I'll never know, but I've love to know what Marvin's in is. I'd laugh my dick off if I found out he was Chris's cousin or some shit, lol.
 
waffle said:
Unless we have some real evidence that the charges are getting reduced or sealed I still think he violated his probation. I just talked to my friend who's a year older than me and practices law and he confirmed what I thought, that they don't have a "review" hearing otherwise.

That's good to know, but I think the autism card is still working in Chris's favor. We'll just have to wait and see, I guess.
 
Wait, I just read the first page, and I have have to say, wtf mate, chris' ban from the store is lifted? even though snyder filed a restraining order?
 
Plissken said:
Wait, I just read the first page, and I have have to say, wtf mate, chris' ban from the store is lifted? even though snyder filed a restraining order?
Most of us were being facetious.
Da Pickle Monsta said:
waffle said:
Unless we have some real evidence that the charges are getting reduced or sealed I still think he violated his probation. I just talked to my friend who's a year older than me and practices law and he confirmed what I thought, that they don't have a "review" hearing otherwise.

That's good to know, but I think the autism card is still working in Chris's favor. We'll just have to wait and see, I guess.
I think the adult-autistic-child status could also guarantee some punishment, even if it's relaxed. It will probably grant him leniency, where he won't face incarceration, but I think a judge would feel obligated to give him some other punishment - fine, community service, therapy - to teach him a lesson. "Doing nothing would reenforce the negative behavior." This is literally something a judge said to me, after a minor infraction due to a condition that affects my behavior, and has been similarly-repeated on other occasions.
GrandNumberOfPounds said:
I really doubt Chris is going to get arrested again, at least as long as the status quo exists. He isn't as naive as he was when he was in the Get-Tar region and knows that the cops won't listen to a speech as to why he's loitering. If someone threatens to call the cops on him, he's going to run away because he knows he can't beat the jerkops even if he's right.
I have a feeling Chris will run afoul of the law sooner than later, but not due to him intentionally breaking the law or provoking action against him. Some of Chris' more peculiar idiosyncrasies could arouse suspicion, or even be mistaken for hostility. Simply ignoring a request or question from a police officer; running from mall security; entering the wrong bathroom; wearing a "disguise" in public; leering at women; pointing an unidentified object (camera) at random people; loitering... Stuff like this has gotten people arrested, or worse, in this day and age. I doubt it'd ever result in a serious penalty, but it's still something I suspect will be an issue for Chris when/if he gets out of the hoard.
 
I have to agree, I think Chris will get in trouble again, although not intentionally. Most of his brushes with the law have not been because he did something wrong intentionally, he just doesn't see his behavior as inappropriate. And we know that he is not the best at learning. He may be less naive than before, but much of his behavior and comments are still inappropriate.
 
CalmMyTits said:
I have to agree, I think Chris will get in trouble again, although not intentionally. Most of his brushes with the law have not been because he did something wrong intentionally, he just doesn't see his behavior as inappropriate. And we know that he is not the best at learning. He may be less naive than before, but much of his behavior and comments are still inappropriate.

Most of his brushes with the law was him flipping off authority. If he had left when he was told to quit loitering, he wouldn't have gotten arrested. Instead, he forces the store to call security, and then waddles away.
 
qld said:
CalmMyTits said:
Yeah, a transcript would be excellent. Keeping her real name private is a good idea.

Given that she is a prostitute, she'll probably expect to be paid for her story. We'd have to have a way to prove it was her, even if we did raise a nominal sum for her story.

I know! We could start a kickstarter campaign!
 
BillRiley said:
qld said:
CalmMyTits said:
Yeah, a transcript would be excellent. Keeping her real name private is a good idea.

Given that she is a prostitute, she'll probably expect to be paid for her story. We'd have to have a way to prove it was her, even if we did raise a nominal sum for her story.

I know! We could start a kickstarter campaign!

You think we need to do all that just to raise enough to buy a bucket of KFC and a pack of Luckies?
 
raymond said:
CalmMyTits said:
I have to agree, I think Chris will get in trouble again, although not intentionally. Most of his brushes with the law have not been because he did something wrong intentionally, he just doesn't see his behavior as inappropriate. And we know that he is not the best at learning. He may be less naive than before, but much of his behavior and comments are still inappropriate.

Most of his brushes with the law was him flipping off authority. If he had left when he was told to quit loitering, he wouldn't have gotten arrested. Instead, he forces the store to call security, and then waddles away.

What I meant was that he did not see his original actions as wrong (loitering, using the Attraction Sign) and he thought that the officers were JERKS trying to stop his Love Quest and etc. Even when police try to confront him about his behavior, he still thinks they're in the wrong. He said that he does not respect the police. He just doesn't understand (or want to) why his behavior is inappropriate. To him the JERKops just want to play Kick the Autistic.
 
CalmMyTits said:
raymond said:
CalmMyTits said:
I have to agree, I think Chris will get in trouble again, although not intentionally. Most of his brushes with the law have not been because he did something wrong intentionally, he just doesn't see his behavior as inappropriate. And we know that he is not the best at learning. He may be less naive than before, but much of his behavior and comments are still inappropriate.

Most of his brushes with the law was him flipping off authority. If he had left when he was told to quit loitering, he wouldn't have gotten arrested. Instead, he forces the store to call security, and then waddles away.

What I meant was that he did not see his original actions as wrong (loitering, using the Attraction Sign) and he thought that the officers were JERKS trying to stop his Love Quest and etc. Even when police try to confront him about his behavior, he still thinks they're in the wrong. He said that he does not respect the police. He just doesn't understand (or want to) why his behavior is inappropriate. To him the JERKops just want to play Kick the Autistic.

Chris' view on law enforcement:

 
waffle said:
Unless we have some real evidence that the charges are getting reduced or sealed
That's probably it then. Occam's razor, dude.
 
Marvin said:
BurtyDrappedCreifs said:
Marvin said:
I'm sure she'd have an interesting story to tell, but I don't think she really deserves the attention. Maybe sometime someone could get the story from Chris.

And what a steaming pile of horse ploppie THAT story is going to be, as told by the Manbaby With Something To Prove.
Eh, I really don't think there's much that Chris could fuck up. He'll exaggerate somethings, but mostly, you'll be able to get the story out of what he wrote. It's pretty straightforward.

Knowing Chris, he'll likely copy/paste lines directly from some old "Dear Penthouse" column. Full of comments about how big and long his totally-no-longer-bent duck was, and how she made her orgasm over and over. Probably mention how they both turned into furries in mid-coitus too.

CalmMyTits said:
I have to agree, I think Chris will get in trouble again, although not intentionally. Most of his brushes with the law have not been because he did something wrong intentionally, he just doesn't see his behavior as inappropriate. And we know that he is not the best at learning. He may be less naive than before, but much of his behavior and comments are still inappropriate.


If Chris starts whipping out his camera at nearby Jerkops the way he does to random BK employees, then I'm sure sooner or later some cop is going to walk up and ask him why he's doing that, Chris will immediately get nervous, which will make the cop even more pensive (you don't want cops who are trigger-happy to get pensive), and the escalation between the two of them rises till the cop makes some motion like touching Chris and he immediately freaks out (Chris DOES get violent under certain conditions, like he did when he got arrested the first time in October '11).

It is possible that he violated some probation by getting banned from a few new locales since his trial. Just more evidence of him being regarded as an Official Public Nuisance.


And, if the charge ARE going to be reduced/sealed after this last trial, then someone had better get off their ass & hurry it up and obtain those arrest and court records before they get locked away forever.
 
PickleTron7000 said:
Chris will never give up hope on returning to the Place. The Game Place was probably the closest thing he had to a post-high school social/community experience. He deeply covets the opportunity to return to a semblance of that period of time in his life, even though most of the people he knew there have grown up and moved on. Now that he's now over thirty years old, he would probably do better for himself by dropping Pokemon and finding a local group of adults that plays MTG. There are a lot of people who play Magic who understand that manchildren come with the territory, and would probably tolerate his presence. They might even be nice to him... Until he starts telling them his life story.
Chris wouldn't have to drop Pokemon for that, 20-to-40-year-old manchildren are par for the course in the Pokemon TCG as well. In fact I'd wager that at any given pogeyman tournament there will be more autistic manchildren (or womanchildren) than actual children (and a handful of the actual children are autistic as well).

Of course, most older autistics who are as quick to fly off the handle as Chris are are accompanied by a parent or other neurotypical guardian, who usually learn the game as well (several times I've been matched up with this sweet elderly lady who frequents the local tournaments with her autistic son), and it will be a cold day in hell before Barb takes the effort to do something so supportive and healthy for her son as that.

Now I'm not saying that Chris should get involved with the Pokemon TCG again instead of MTG, since he claims to have grown out of Pokemon and may very well be more open to other card games, I'm just saying that Play! Pokemon as a whole isn't as inexperienced with dealing with unruly spergs as you seem to think.
 
Christ-ian said:
waffle said:
Unless we have some real evidence that the charges are getting reduced or sealed
That's probably it then. Occam's razor, dude.
I don't think this in an Occam's razor situation though, they don't reduce charges that often when you've already gotten off so easy. And a lot of times if they do reduce them they make you wait one to five years to make sure you don't re-offend. At vest I think it's a toss up
 
waffle said:
Christ-ian said:
waffle said:
Unless we have some real evidence that the charges are getting reduced or sealed
That's probably it then. Occam's razor, dude.
I don't think this in an Occam's razor situation though, they don't reduce charges that often when you've already gotten off so easy. And a lot of times if they do reduce them they make you wait one to five years to make sure you don't re-offend. At vest I think it's a toss up
In my state, I've seen people have it noted on their plea bargains that they can petition the court to drop a felony charge down to a misdemeanor after successful completion of probation. But this hearing for Chris was set before the completion of CWC's probation. Why set a hearing before you know if probation will be successful?
And to have the record expunged or sealed, there's no way they'll be taking action on that before his probation is even over. And he should be the one to initiate the proceedings. The state has no interest in reducing or expunging unless you ask them to.
Chris also committed a class 5 felony, not the 'lightest' possible, which would be a class 6.
From the VA Secretary of the Commonwealth (State) regarding expungement for felonies and restoration of rights:
New Criteria for Non-Violent Felon restoration (effective May 29, 2013):
http://www.commonwealth.virginia.gov/ju ... ration.cfm

"Have been convicted of a non-violent felony in a Virginia court, or convicted in a U.S. District Court, military court or a court of another state or territory
Have completed serving the prison sentence and been released from probation or parole; and
Have paid all court costs, fines to the Commonwealth and restitution to the victims, satisfied all court-ordered conditions, and have no pending felony charges.
If you have lost the right to vote as a result of a felony conviction in a Virginia court, a U.S. District or a military court, you must have your rights restored in order to qualify for voter registration. The restoration of rights restores the rights to vote, to run for and hold public office, to serve on juries and to serve as a notary public. It does not include the right to possess or transport any firearm or to carry a concealed weapon.

In order to be eligible for restoration of rights by the Governor, an applicant who has been convicted of a violent felony must:

Must be a resident of Virginia, and/or have been convicted of a felony in a Virginia court, a U.S. District court or a military court
be free from any sentence served or supervised probation and parole for a minimum of five years for a violent felony or drug distribution, drug manufacturing offense, any crimes against a minor, or an election law offense.
have paid all court costs, fines, penalties and restitution and have no felony or misdemeanor charges pending.
not have had a DWI in the five years immediately preceding the application.
Not have any misdemeanor convictions and/or pending criminal charges for five years for a violent felony or drug distribution, drug manufacturing offense, any crimes against a minor, or an election law offense."


So, is failing to stop a violent felony? Even if he could restore his rights, he's still a felon, and restoration will only give him the right to serve on a jury, vote, be a notary public or run for office. He will do none of those things no matter his criminal status.
Now there was the talk about Bob having a .38 or some other such gun in his filing cabinet or somewhere in the house. Since Chris & Barb are both felons and are/were on probation and cannot possess a firearm, where's the gun?
 
qld said:
Now there was the talk about Bob having a .38 or some other such gun in his filing cabinet or somewhere in the house. Since Chris & Barb are both felons and are/were on probation and cannot possess a firearm, where's the gun?
As far as I know any the existence of any such gun is purely speculative and not supported by any evidence.
 
DangDirtyTrolls said:
As far as I know any the existence of any such gun is purely speculative and not supported by any evidence.
Jesus, thank you. People keep talking about Bob having guns and it's based in utter bullshit. Just because he's from the south does not make him a survivalist nutjob any more than my being from Minnesota makes me like hot dish, or anyone being from Boston makes them an asshole.
 
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