Probation Ends on July 10

[Ron_Swanson]

This thread became quite stupid, quite fast

 

[waffle]

Yeah, I don't see any indication that part of his deal was to have the conviction removed/reduced if he completed probation, which means that at least around here they wouldn't have a hearing unless the PO filed a complaint.

 

[Batman VS Tony Danza]

I was under the impression it was going to go from felony to misdemeanor eventually.

 

[waffle]

If it does then that's what it is, but I've never seen any primary sources that say that or even "reliable" secondary ones; only unsourced statements.

 

[qld]

Yeah, I don't see any indication that part of his deal was to have the conviction removed/reduced if he completed probation, which means that at least around here they wouldn't have a hearing unless the PO filed a complaint.

And around here, the defendant could petition the court xx many days after probation was successfully completed to have a felony reduced to a misdemeanor on the record. If the state includes it in the plea bargain. This is stuff not introduced by the defendant and well before probation was over.

 

[José Mourinho]

He'll get his revenge on the dang, dirty, Michael Snyder, Megan Schoreder and the trolls at The GAMe PLACe.

 

[Zim]

Going to jail? Preposterous!

Ok now that I got my college word of the day out of the way, I don't think he's going to go to jail. OPL is a special needs individual and isn't worth putting away for very long if at all.

I think the courts should let him go back to his own prison/home.

 

[CatParty]

and he should get another hooker

 

[QI 541]

Going to jail? Preposterous!

Ok now that I got my college word of the day out of the way, I don't think he's going to go to jail. OPL is a special needs individual and isn't worth putting away for very long if at all.

I think the courts should let him go back to his own prison/home.

Ah Chris, too retarded to be held accountable for his actions, but still allowed to drive.

 

[CalmMyTits]

I wonder if the court found out about him getting banned from McDonald's or other places during his probation.

 

[Kosher Dill]

It's not a crime to be banned from McD's, so they probably don't care one way or the other. Being exceptionally rude and smelly doesn't count as a probation violation.

 

[CalmMyTits]

I realize that, but part of the original sentence was for Chris to get help and for him to socialize more and such. Getting banned from places... I doubt that helps his case. Did he ever get the psychiatric counseling that was part of his sentence?

 

[CatParty]

I realize that, but part of the original sentence was for Chris to get help and for him to socialize more and such. Getting banned from places... I doubt that helps his case. Did he ever get the psychiatric counseling that was part of his sentence?

wasn't it just like one evaluation?

 

[Kosher Dill]

Yeah, I think that's all it was. Rob Bell played the autism card and said "Look, keep him out of jail and he can become normal and social again, I swear".
To which the judge pretty much said "Yeah fine, go get that autism checked out at the doctor or whatever". No one's actively working on rehabilitating Chris.

 

[Marvin]

I really think Chris safely managed to dodge having to do community service. I don't think Chris and Barb together would fuck up fulfilling their court requirements. They're stupid as hell, but still have the minimum required intellect to avoid jail when their backs are against the wall. If he had to be doing community service, he'd be doing community service. And bitching about it the whole time.

 

[Thetan]

I really think Chris safely managed to dodge having to do community service. I don't think Chris and Barb together would fuck up fulfilling their court requirements. They're stupid as hell, but still have the minimum required intellect to avoid jail when their backs are against the wall. If he had to be doing community service, he'd be doing community service. And bitching about it the whole time.

Not trying to sound A-Loggy here, but a quick stay in jail or, potentially, the state hospital (if there's concern about putting him in GP because of his autism), may be just the bitch-slap from reality that Chris needs to finally get his shit together and turn his life around. You'd have thought that Bob's death would have made more of an impression on him, but apparently it hasn't.

Chris has never faced any real consequences for his actions. If he has, in fact, managed to dodge community service, and doesn't face any real, meaningful consequences for his actions at The Game Place, it's just going to reinforce his bad behavior and sense of entitlement. He already has a smug sense of superiority, where he thinks he is somehow 'special', possibly even above the law (who knows exactly how his mind works). Letting him skate on this could lead to far worse problems further down the road.

Just my .02.

 

[Da Pickle Monsta]

I really think Chris safely managed to dodge having to do community service. I don't think Chris and Barb together would fuck up fulfilling their court requirements. They're stupid as hell, but still have the minimum required intellect to avoid jail when their backs are against the wall. If he had to be doing community service, he'd be doing community service. And bitching about it the whole time.

Not trying to sound A-Loggy here, but a quick stay in jail or, potentially, the state hospital (if there's concern about putting him in GP because of his autism), may be just the bitch-slap from reality that Chris needs to finally get his shit together and turn his life around. You'd have thought that Bob's death would have made more of an impression on him, but apparently it hasn't.

Chris has never faced any real consequences for his actions. If he has, in fact, managed to dodge community service, and doesn't face any real, meaningful consequences for his actions at The Game Place, it's just going to reinforce his bad behavior and sense of entitlement. He already has a smug sense of superiority, where he thinks he is somehow 'special', possibly even above the law (who knows exactly how his mind works). Letting him skate on this could lead to far worse problems further down the road.

Just my .02.

Honestly, I think Chris is beyond help at this point. Jail is just going to fuel his persecution complex. Barb's death is only going to reiterate this asinine idea of "me against the world."

Really, the law needs to see what's best for the people around Chris and take it from there. Taking away his driver's license, or at least giving him mandatory re-training, would be a good place to start.

 

[Thetan]

I really think Chris safely managed to dodge having to do community service. I don't think Chris and Barb together would fuck up fulfilling their court requirements. They're stupid as hell, but still have the minimum required intellect to avoid jail when their backs are against the wall. If he had to be doing community service, he'd be doing community service. And bitching about it the whole time.

Not trying to sound A-Loggy here, but a quick stay in jail or, potentially, the state hospital (if there's concern about putting him in GP because of his autism), may be just the bitch-slap from reality that Chris needs to finally get his shit together and turn his life around. You'd have thought that Bob's death would have made more of an impression on him, but apparently it hasn't.

Chris has never faced any real consequences for his actions. If he has, in fact, managed to dodge community service, and doesn't face any real, meaningful consequences for his actions at The Game Place, it's just going to reinforce his bad behavior and sense of entitlement. He already has a smug sense of superiority, where he thinks he is somehow 'special', possibly even above the law (who knows exactly how his mind works). Letting him skate on this could lead to far worse problems further down the road.

Just my .02.

Honestly, I think Chris is beyond help at this point. Jail is just going to fuel his persecution complex. Barb's death is only going to reiterate this asinine idea of "me against the world."

Really, the law needs to see what's best for the people around Chris and take it from there. Taking away his driver's license, or at least giving him mandatory re-training, would be a good place to start.

Agreed on all points.

What is long overdue is a comprehensive psychiatric evaluation. It's obvious to me that Chris has far bigger issues than the 'tism. At the very least, the courts should mandate psychiatric counseling. Maybe he is a lost cause at this point. But counseling couldn't hurt.

The idea of him having a driver's license scares the hell out of me. Besides The Game Place, there have been other incidents where Chris has nearly run someone over with his car. Whether this was intentional or not is beside the point. At the very least, these incidents point to a lack of emotional control / poor impulse control, impaired judgement, and just plain poor driving skills. The courts need to take these previous incidents into account.

Chris may not have meant to hit Michael Snyder, but that isn't what's important. Michael was lucky to get off with minor injuries. Things could have gone much worse. Just to clarify: I'm not saying that Chris was bent on vehicular homicide when he hit Michael, just maybe that he lacks the self-control, judgement, and emotional maturity to have a driver's license. Does someone have to get seriously injured - or worse, before the state of VA takes a serious look at this. Some people just weren't meant to drive - period.

 

[Marvin]

I really think Chris safely managed to dodge having to do community service. I don't think Chris and Barb together would fuck up fulfilling their court requirements. They're stupid as hell, but still have the minimum required intellect to avoid jail when their backs are against the wall. If he had to be doing community service, he'd be doing community service. And bitching about it the whole time.

Not trying to sound A-Loggy here, but a quick stay in jail or, potentially, the state hospital (if there's concern about putting him in GP because of his autism), may be just the bitch-slap from reality that Chris needs to finally get his shit together and turn his life around. You'd have thought that Bob's death would have made more of an impression on him, but apparently it hasn't.

Chris has never faced any real consequences for his actions. If he has, in fact, managed to dodge community service, and doesn't face any real, meaningful consequences for his actions at The Game Place, it's just going to reinforce his bad behavior and sense of entitlement. He already has a smug sense of superiority, where he thinks he is somehow 'special', possibly even above the law (who knows exactly how his mind works). Letting him skate on this could lead to far worse problems further down the road.

Just my .02.

I'm not saying Chris is going to become a better person through these events. Chris is a real asshole of a person and he can't improve without training. Like, dog training.

But he has learned, from a practical standpoint, to associate certain actions with certain consequences. Chris has been tackled by cops and arrested. He knows he can't physically win. I mean, it's not a moral thing. I'm not saying he realizes that he's doing bad things and deserves punishment. He just thinks that it's the world unfairly punishing him. But either way, he still knows that he can't always win, and that's going to change his behavior. Chris is afraid of the consequences, however unfair he feels they might be.

Chris is way too afraid to ever go back to the game place, for example. Or if he gets into confrontations with fast food employees, he'd be a bit too uneasy to get too argumentative. Rather, he's probably just going to keep on taking pictures of them and running away. Chris is always going to be an asshole, but he's going to try to think of ways he can continue his assholery, but without risking imprisonment, because he's a huge pussy.

The idea of him having a driver's license scares the hell out of me. Besides The Game Place, there have been other incidents where Chris has nearly run someone over with his car. Whether this was intentional or not is beside the point. At the very least, these incidents point to a lack of emotional control / poor impulse control, impaired judgement, and just plain poor driving skills. The courts need to take these previous incidents into account.

Chris may not have meant to hit Michael Snyder, but that isn't what's important. Michael was lucky to get off with minor injuries. Things could have gone much worse. Just to clarify: I'm not saying that Chris was bent on vehicular homicide when he hit Michael, just maybe that he lacks the self-control, judgement, and emotional maturity to have a driver's license. Does someone have to get seriously injured - or worse, before the state of VA takes a serious look at this. Some people just weren't meant to drive - period.

Honestly, that's how driving law usually works. If you can pass the relevant requirements and get your drivers license, the state assumes you're a competent driver until proven otherwise.

And to be honest, Chris has had an accident or two, but long-term, it's not unreasonable to look at his record and not see significant risks to public health. To a normal person, sometimes people have accidents. If they deal with their required punishments, they can go back to driving. If they do it way too often then, yeah, they could lose their license, but Chris hasn't reached that point yet.

We know Chris a lot better than the state does, and if it was up to us, sure, we'd take Chris' license away. But I don't think they're reacting too unreasonably, based on the evidence they have.

 

[NiggoFiggo]

I really think Chris safely managed to dodge having to do community service. I don't think Chris and Barb together would fuck up fulfilling their court requirements. They're stupid as hell, but still have the minimum required intellect to avoid jail when their backs are against the wall. If he had to be doing community service, he'd be doing community service. And bitching about it the whole time.

Not trying to sound A-Loggy here, but a quick stay in jail or, potentially, the state hospital (if there's concern about putting him in GP because of his autism), may be just the bitch-slap from reality that Chris needs to finally get his shit together and turn his life around. You'd have thought that Bob's death would have made more of an impression on him, but apparently it hasn't.

Chris has never faced any real consequences for his actions. If he has, in fact, managed to dodge community service, and doesn't face any real, meaningful consequences for his actions at The Game Place, it's just going to reinforce his bad behavior and sense of entitlement. He already has a smug sense of superiority, where he thinks he is somehow 'special', possibly even above the law (who knows exactly how his mind works). Letting him skate on this could lead to far worse problems further down the road.

Just my .02.

Chris was in a holding cell for what a day and a half? He kicked at the bars, talked to himself, and starved himself to "make" a point. The only thing that made him do is get a hooker