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"That said, you aren't mono. You are in a now poly relationship."
That's so shitty and insidious, like you can't determine what you are, your partner can change what you identify as because they want to have sex with other people. Do we or don't we respect how people identify around here? Goddamn.
 
That's so shitty and insidious, like you can't determine what you are, your partner can change what you identify as because they want to have sex with other people. Do we or don't we respect how people identify around here? Goddamn.
It's the same shit that happens when someone in an established relationship troons out.

Really, it's just arguing in favor of deviancy. They wouldn't dare support the reverse "well, I'm mono so you're mono too". They're in favor of lamer and gayer so they will always want to tip things down that particular hill. Once you understand this it's like the sword to the Gordian knot of "wokie" logic.
 
Why do people keep chasing doomed shit like this

  • Young inexperienced people who don't listen to the warnings of others, idealism wins out and they get burned
  • People who cannot fathom the consequences of their own actions. This can be lower IQ, a brain thing, or a them type of problem.
  • Mental illness, particularly things that have impulsive nature (adhd, bipolar, any mania inducing illness) or a high rate of selfishness and insecurity (Cluster B, shitty people who don't fall under the true cluster B but have some of the traits)
  • Insecurity in that if they propose to be poly, they want to make everyone love them or leave their partner without the painful part of breaking up. If they are not the proposer, they are likely afraid no one else will ever love them (see the low self esteem nerds of either gender) and permit it sadly.
Does this help?
 
I believe the Venn diagram of manipulative and poly people is not quite a circle, but pretty close to one.

How can you be sure you’re not poly if you haven’t tried it? Maybe your relationship isn’t strong enough. Maybe you have jealousy issues. Maybe you’re just boring? Would it hurt you to make your partner happy? (Same applies to kink people although that Venn diagram IS a circle)
This. But you also forget the inverse strategy used by the poly cabal on unsuspecting single people, particularly those that are lonely, vulnerable and unlucky in love.
"I hope you understand that you are too special to only be in one person's life, you can be loved by multiple people. If you are lonely and you enjoy the attention you are getting from me I know a way where you can get the same attention from multiple other people. Then you will never be alone again" and then inevitably this transforms into " We are like, the only ones that get you man. If you run away from this, there will be nobody else for you"
They tried for a baby last year, but she found out she was infertile and was devastated. They agree to pause the polyshit while she recovers emotionally, then MrDeuteronomy starts it back up. He goes out on a first date and comes home to his infertile wife, burbling with excitement about how awesome the new chick is. He excitedly tells his wife all about the makeout sesh he had.
I will never understand why these people have so little shame... Forget "hide your power level", these people push the envelope and brag about it for attention... My god.
 
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Why do people keep chasing doomed shit like this
a lot of the time they're in weird "progressive" bubbles that assume anything normal or pre-established is traditional and therefore suspicious, bad, oppressive and so they're conditioned to believe that being queer and open-minded is good . Their culture encourages them to second-guess their instinct not to want the man or woman they like having sex with other people and dismiss it as oppressive societal programming.
This is part of the assumption of a leftwing philosophical/political movement called queer theory.
 
a lot of the time they're in weird "progressive" bubbles that assume anything normal or pre-established is traditional and therefore suspicious, bad, oppressive and so they're conditioned to believe that being queer and open-minded is good . Their culture encourages them to second-guess their instinct not to want the man or woman they like having sex with other people and dismiss it as oppressive societal programming.
This is part of the assumption of a leftwing philosophical/political movement called queer theory.
Yeah, you cannot rule out that for a lot of these people beyond the goonery/pooning is this Fuck You Dad attitude toward conservatism in the literal sense of, if people have been doing something for a while it's probably racist/sexist/homophobic [insert -ist statements as necessary] therefore we should tear it down! Yes, it's a weird coincidence that everyone doing this is a cucked leftist retard but those people are all right-thinking people so ergo, vis-a-vis, concordantly this must be the right thing to do to!

It's vaguely similar to a Chesterton's fence situation where they see functional relationships that have (for better or worse) brought them to this point in their lives in the most fundamental sense of the description and go, well what if we came up with something better? disregarding the fact that the evidence of people trying the exact fucking thing is not only present in modern society but also in various forms throughout human civilization.
I will never understand why these people have so little shame... Forget "hide your power level", these people push the envelope and brag about it for attention... My god.
Attention seeking behaviour is a helluva drug.

If I wanted to be charitable I'd say that he was just a total fucking autist incapable of empathising with his devastated wife. That's the best case scenario. The slightly less good but still trying to not assume total malice is that he genuinely thought the idea of him having a great time and being happy with some side-piece would bring similar happiness to her because isn't that what this is all about? Disregarding human emotions of jealousy and possession and truly being just full of joy when the person you love is happy too?? Do you mind making us some sandwiches, I'm going to fuck this broad in our bed for a bit now. Go easy on the mustard.
 
For the person starting it, wanting to have their cake and eat it too.

For the person being subjected to it, sunk cost fallacy.
its greed. a person who lets just say is struggling to make connections to people finally gets laid, but they've been pornsick'd so bad that theres no way just one person could ever fulfill all their desires or give them the luxuries of choice and variety. Its immature because those feelings are supposed to take a backseat when it comes time to emotionally commit to one partner (but thats just another of those everhated traditional cultural norms).

I think its worth looking into how left-wing incels fit into this situation, guys who cant get laid and struggle with women but fall hook line and sinker for the open mindset and get emotionally trapped.
 
That's the insidious nature of reddit. They murdered Aaron Schwartz in prison because they did NOT want the discovery from that trial to get out, and if they dropped the charges it would also have looked bad, so they murdered him, and gave reddit over to psychopaths who thought they could take over the internet. The original front page of the internet was supposed to be excite, and Ghisline Maxwell's sister, isabel maxwell, bought it up when she was running magellan. So if you wonder if U/maxwellhill is ghilsine maxwell, that's a strong possibility because the OTHER sister christine was also heavily investing into the internet with the goal of creating one site to control information. All THREE of them were pioneers into web based media, and i have this dark suspicion that they are why CASM or 'p as the soy teens call it was proliferated on the early web.

Anyway, back to the regularly scheduled programing of gawking at disgusting degenerates who ruined their lives with degeneracy.
Do you know any videos or pages that go over the reddit schwartz stuff in detail? I've alsywas found it a rather murky thing to find info on.

Also regarding the lonely 50s poly guy.
What a fucking idiot. He was 37 years old and wanting a baby then, but still fucked that off to maybe try later? I find that bizarre. You're kind of feeling the clock at that time, no matter how daft that may sound to people who are older who bemoan thinking they were old when they weren't yet but..
I find it crazy that a man that age would be so careless when he already had that idea. I know men don't get hammered with the bio clock thing as much but you'd think there would be some kind of inkling just in terms of time frames.
 
My understanding, yes. My mood, no.

It's just so bizarre to me that people keep doing this to themselves when I don't think I've ever seen it actually succeed once.
I might be in the minority here, but I think that forms of polyamory or at least "ethical non-monogamy" have existed a long time and probably work just fine. There are a LOT of swingers out there doing crazy shit these polyamory idiots can't even dream of, but they aren't deluded enough to one, advertise it to those not in the "scene" and two, pretend it's anything other than fucking for fucking's sake. Key parties existed in the 60s and 70s, after all; it's not just a pornsick thing.

I think polyamory, and especially the kind of polyamory we see itt, is the most batshit form of wife-swapping or swinging because they pretend it's some kind of higher calling and that they're better people because they have multiple partners. THAT is the part I tend to get my hackles up about. And that's also why they're cows in my opinion - I don't care who anyone fucks in or out of marriage, but don't pretend you're more enlightened and ascended than monogamous people. It's tedious.
 
I think that forms of polyamory or at least "ethical non-monogamy" have existed a long time and probably work just fine. There are a LOT of swingers out there doing crazy shit these polyamory idiots can't even dream of, but they aren't deluded enough to one, advertise it to those not in the "scene" and two, pretend it's anything other than fucking for fuckings sake.
I mean the key part is that those more or less aren't real relationships, there's no intensive commitment involved. Sure, people can make swinger parties or fuckbuddies "work", but at the end of the day it's just getting your rocks off and fucking because you're horny. It's purely transactional, basically just fucking a prostitute you're acquainted with for free.

The issue with poly people is they're trying to combine a real relationship with the lifestyle of a whore, attempting to balance and conjoin two things that are fundamentally opposed to one another then acting smug about it.

Ffs they act like communists, constantly trying to chase a fanciful idealized dreamworld then acting smarmy and Le Enlightened about it no matter how many times it's ended in failure in the past or blown up in their faces. Absolutely annoying and gay.
 
they pretend it's some kind of higher calling and that they're better people because they have multiple partners
The "new relationship experience" they keep talking about should instantly set off every alarm bell possible. Relationships have their ups and downs and thinking you can somehow maintain your "main" relationship is insanity. Either someone will constantly chase that high of a new relationship and neglect the long term relationship. Or run away from the main relationship when things go bad. You see it all the time with love affairs monogamous relationships. Home life is boring and wife is getting prickly, husband spends more and more time with his girlfriend until the relationship completely implodes because he isn't investing/maintaining it. And the girlfriend is trying to get promoted to being the main woman. Or the wife is bored and fucks the personal trainer.

Some polys also seem to try and go for a fuckbuddy on the side, not a second romantic relationship. But you can't reason away jealousy, and you cant use reason to separate sex and intimacy.

Ffs they act like communists,
Funnily enough commies wanted to smash the family unit. Raise children communally in big sleeping quarters with a parents rotating as caregivers.
 
It's happened guys, finally lost my best friend of 20 years to the poly-trans-brainworms. Married a BPD girl, now they're both far gone. Completely unable to have a single conversation without some stale woke-adjacent takes, no matter how far divorced from the actual topic. I hate this planet.
I really miss when the concern about your best friend seeing a new woman was that he wouldn't have time for bro stuff anymore. Now, I've had several friends cut me out entirely after they get a new girlfriend because actually, I'm a white nationalist neo-nazi rape-terrorist because I'm not shy about saying that men can't be women, actually, and he never noticed until Paige really opened his eyes about some stuff. 🙄

Nigger, you don't believe a fucking word of that shit, but we're eyeing down our forties and you realize what your actual prospects are and fear this is your last chance to smash young box, you mealy-mouthed fuckboy.
 
It's happened guys, finally lost my best friend of 20 years to the poly-trans-brainworms. Married a BPD girl, now they're both far gone. Completely unable to have a single conversation without some stale woke-adjacent takes, no matter how far divorced from the actual topic. I hate this planet.
My condolences Sadly I've lost friends to this cult too. As for all cult victims, the best thing you can do is not cutting contact with them completely. This way if they want to leave one day, they can contact you for help.
His life propsects would have been better if he had converted to Islam at this point lol.

Thread tax, a story that happened in my family :​

A recently deceased relative used to practice basically bigamy, even if it's outlawed in my country. He was married to a woman, and had 2 girls. He was some kind of successful entrepreneur, so obviously he starts cheating on his wife. Then the mistress gets pregnant with a boy. Instead of paying her an allowance, he decided to have her move in with his family (yes, including his wife) in his home. For some reason they didn't divorce. I can't imagine the insane family drama that must have happened back then, long before I was even born, since it was in the 70s or 80s. I guess women were too ashamed to divorce back then.
The question is, what happened to the children?
The legitimate daughters overal are doing fine. However the first one never lived with her partner. They stayed together for decades and had a child but never lived together. I wonder what caused this...
The bastard son on the other end... He converted to Islam in prison. I guess it sums it up lol. Then, when he got out he contacted my mum (who was his godmother for some reason) to ask for money.... This side of the family has a lot of drama in general even to this day. So yeah, avoid polygamy and polyamory in general.

On the topic of polygamy, African countries where it's legal are rife with news stories of sister wives abusing each other, or worse, each other kids. For instance a woman burned the face of her sister wife with a clothing iron, this one stuck with me for some reason. Maybe I should search for some to post in this thread later. Could be gemmy asf.
There's also a correlation between polygamy, violence and even civil wars. It makes sense, all the excess males that get their potential wife taken away by men of higher social status are easily motivated to get their share by raping and pillaging.
 
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