Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

[Rome's rightful successor]

I present to you another Kaiserreich cold war sequel mod that will never be finished with a scenario we've seen 100 times.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4modding/comments/vst9ck/d%C3%A4mmerungskampf_world_map_teaser/

Teaser showing ideologies, all countries and political blocs in 1956 in
Dämmerungskampf, a Kaiserreich cold war continuation mod. The mod takes
place in a cold war between the Anglo-totalist Socialist International,
the reactionary Reichspakt, and the democratic sphere of co-prosperity.
The Asian Governments fighting for global recognition and the world is
heating up onse more over the brewing civil conflict in Germany, and
both the PSA and the USAS are demanding America's unification on their
behalf. World War III seems to be on the horizon

Our Discord: https://discord.gg/df99mUJ8Our

Dev-Application: https://docs.google.com/forms
/d/e/1FAIpQLSc-ZK9v_E4CDfQeEUpCzyiDbflUAjA9ZfMQey9aMBcKFB0taQ/viewform?usp=sf_link

The only way a new one of these could ever be interesting is if Russia is either Anarchist or MonBol, William Dudley Pelley won the 2ACW, Brazil becomes a global empire, the chinese warlord period continues on indefinitely,
Both Ethiopia and Afghanistan becomes powerful empires. The Pan Europists won in Austria, Great Britain becomes 1984 on LSD, and Ungern-Sternberg's Mongolia becomes powerful enough to continue on it's global conquest with France preparing for a long war with it like in Iron Storm.

 

[Grave Ghost]

Speaking of mods, anyone get recommended teasers for a mod called "extremis ultimis"? (i legit think their subtitle was "death of democracy"), and it's not even red flood of being insane for funni, IT JUST FUCKING GLOWS. I'll bet a amount of money to say that dev team has trannies or federal agents on their discord. Never before have I seen a hoi4 mod that just screams "glownigger"

I'm going to be honest when I first stumbled on that mod I thought it was based off of Iron Gates so I understand why you say it glows. Also apparently the demo for said mod has been "right around the corner" for nearly three months now.

 

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I'm going to be honest when I first stumbled on that mod I thought it was based off of Iron Gates so I understand why you say it glows. Also apparently the demo for said mod has been "right around the corner" for nearly three months now.

the most recent dev diary was over a year ago, I wonder if the devs are even working on this anymore, and even then, that dev diary reads like a terrorist fantasy that would only appeal to edgelords and feds

 

[Slightly Apathetic Mario]

I'm going to be honest when I first stumbled on that mod I thought it was based off of Iron Gates so I understand why you say it glows. Also apparently the demo for said mod has been "right around the corner" for nearly three months now.

isn't that just most modern HOI4 mods nowadays? Where they say they have a demo near, then 2+ years pass by, and when the demo finally comes out, it has way less content than they promised.
cough cough Darkest Hour cough cough

 

[foreman 89]

The new update besides Phillip Hart's shit looks really good especially the redesign of US politics to make some actual sense in that timeline.

In my opinion, the devs are probably really,really regretting the economic mechanics of TT, that shit is gonna stall development for every single future update, as pretty much every other mechanic or focus or decision has to be incorporated/adapted to the economic mechanics. All for fucking what? Pretty much the only valid reason they provided for it was to explain Russia's development which was barely an issue with some imagination or a debuff.

 

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Russia's development which was barely an issue with some imagination or a debuff.

even this gets thrown out the window, the remnants of the Mongolian Red Army get air cavalry/choppers yet their capital is apparently just a military camp

 

[♦️ King of Diamonds ♦️]

An ongoing controversy in the TNO-sphere regarding the Assassination of Shinzo Abe? His Grandad is in the game as the "failstate" for Japan

 

[OMCK]

The new update besides Phillip Hart's shit looks really good especially the redesign of US politics to make some actual sense in that timeline.

In my opinion, the devs are probably really,really regretting the economic mechanics of TT, that shit is gonna stall development for every single future update, as pretty much every other mechanic or focus or decision has to be incorporated/adapted to the economic mechanics. All for fucking what? Pretty much the only valid reason they provided for it was to explain Russia's development which was barely an issue with some imagination or a debuff.

The TNO economy is a hell of a code piece that the player barely uses. We only see the line go up, the focuses trigger more (usually negligible) effects on the economy that we can mildly offset or don't need to counter at all. I really do not play TNO that much more different after TT, and when I do have to play it differently because the game forces you to hit the Keynes buttons, it's a chore to waste gameplay time on tweaking that when I want to do what people actually want to do in a game like HOI4: go to war, get more powerful, do meaningful things.

 

[Corpun]

Functionally, there is no real advantage and it's absolutely excessive, though the whole addition of a lamppost minigame is by itself excessive as shit. It will take up a shit ton of space and we already know how cluttered TNO GUIs can be, especially when they have to vacate the decisions tab and just end up somewhere.

Can I just say I loathe any HOI4 mod with a retarded minigame in the decisions. Shit is always janky as shit and made with the player in mind. This wouldn't be so bad but the AI can't handle these minigames so it just ends up being fucking pointless because now the devs have to waste time coding workarounds for the ai so it doesn't screw itself over.

Half the time in mods AI already has an issue with decisions because devs always make them cost an absurd amount of PP, something the AI never has any large supply of because it clicks random buttons, but now these minigames get locked behind PP.

TLDR any time I see retarded mini game shit I just console command my way out of it because it isn't fun or useful.

 

[the shoebill]

Speaking of mods, anyone get recommended teasers for a mod called "extremis ultimis"? (i legit think their subtitle was "death of democracy"), and it's not even red flood of being insane for funni, IT JUST FUCKING GLOWS. I'll bet a amount of money to say that dev team has trannies or federal agents on their discord. Never before have I seen a hoi4 mod that just screams "glownigger"

Yea I don't know about it glowing lmao. I know one of the lead devs and it's just a shitty toozer mod that relies on being so wacky and edgy. I don't see how a stupid mod like this made by stupid people would be a fed psyop and not just stupid Reddit trannies making yet another modern day hoi4 mod

 

[the shoebill]

Can I just say I loathe any HOI4 mod with a retarded minigame in the decisions. Shit is always janky as shit and made with the player in mind. This wouldn't be so bad but the AI can't handle these minigames so it just ends up being fucking pointless because now the devs have to waste time coding workarounds for the ai so it doesn't screw itself over.

Half the time in mods AI already has an issue with decisions because devs always make them cost an absurd amount of PP, something the AI never has any large supply of because it clicks random buttons, but now these minigames get locked behind PP.

TLDR any time I see retarded mini game shit I just console command my way out of it because it isn't fun or useful.

I semi-agree, I hate the GUI centered design a lot of mods are going for because they absolutely have to follow the janny tranny standard set by TNO. They are so cumbersome and always lag or break, and because they don't give you alerts you just have to constantly watch them like a hawk. In general I like the decision system because it actually means players can do shit that isn't just national focuses during peacetime. Some decision stuff I think is fine and often works much better than stand-alone GUIs, but even there we are often seeing very obnoxious decisions that are only there to pad shit out.

 

[Corpun]

I semi-agree, I hate the GUI centered design a lot of mods are going for because they absolutely have to follow the janny tranny standard set by TNO. They are so cumbersome and always lag or break, and because they don't give you alerts you just have to constantly watch them like a hawk. In general I like the decision system because it actually means players can do shit that isn't just national focuses during peacetime. Some decision stuff I think is fine and often works much better than stand-alone GUIs, but even there we are often seeing very obnoxious decisions that are only there to pad shit out.

I dont hate decisions but I hate the gay hoops and ladders these mod teams do because they need to do whatever TNO does.

 

[EpicGamerMoment]

Can I just say I loathe any HOI4 mod with a retarded minigame in the decisions. Shit is always janky as shit and made with the player in mind. This wouldn't be so bad but the AI can't handle these minigames so it just ends up being fucking pointless because now the devs have to waste time coding workarounds for the ai so it doesn't screw itself over.

Half the time in mods AI already has an issue with decisions because devs always make them cost an absurd amount of PP, something the AI never has any large supply of because it clicks random buttons, but now these minigames get locked behind PP.

TLDR any time I see retarded mini game shit I just console command my way out of it because it isn't fun or useful.

The election campaign mechanics are retarded becuase I 'm just gonna cheat to get the guy I want anyways

 

[Shaka Brah]

The election campaign mechanics are retarded becuase I 'm just gonna cheat to get the guy I want anyways

Or savescum like everyone in HoI does.

 

[whothefuck]

https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/vvud2p/guangdong_stream_announcement_and_a_teaser_to/

looks like the devs are gonna stream some guangdong stuff.

 

[Corpun]

Or savescum like everyone in HoI does.

Honestly the only Paradox game I play Ironman in is CK2, and that is because the randomness is part of the fun.

Everything else I do not use Ironman, because being fucked over by AI and random bullshit is not worth the stupid dumb achievements that are all gay puns and random bullshit like as Switzerland own 50 states but no coastline.

I have serious gripes with Paradox achievements being 90% a stupid pun or joke.

 

[the shoebill]

Everything else I do not use Ironman, because being fucked over by AI and random bullshit is not worth the stupid dumb achievements that are all gay puns and random bullshit like as Switzerland own 50 states but no coastline.

What? You don't love the AI or game fucking you over by releasing a million countries or soft-locking you because of the shitty scripting in vanilla and every mod? But that's part of the fun!

 

[Corpun]

What? You don't love the AI or game fucking you over by releasing a million countries or soft-locking you because of the shitty scripting in vanilla and every mod? But that's part of the fun!

Damn you're right, being fucked over by AI allies as they pull all their troops to some random fucking country and leave me to dry is part of the fun.

 

[the shoebill]

Average hoi4 youtuber

Imagine following your favourite youtuber and one day you look at his account and he talks about being fucked in the ass

 

[Radola Gajda]

Average hoi4 youtuber
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Imagine following your favourite youtuber and one day you look at his account and he talks about being fucked in the ass

I used to watch that Guy back when he was making videos about Man the guns DLC . This is Yet again proving that everybody on YouTube and in Pdx community is just one small step from becoming cow.