Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

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Somebody assorted all of the TNO dev 'promises' over the past year. To nobody's suprise, most of it is gutting old content, reworks. What surprises me is that they intend to cut alot of proxy wars, so in a sense they want to strip a Cold War scenario of anything to do or watch. Also confirms alot of the worries like Burgundy getting removed and the axe getting sharpened for the Russian content. For some reason most of the commenters seem to be in favor of these changes. Haven't touched HOI4 in a long while, so checking upon this mod's crumbling status is merely out of curiosity at this point.
Yeah what is the point aside from their retarded minigames? Which are still a bane,. The proxy wars was the one thing I was glad they did and honestly Red Dusk, which I played and many here praise, did exactly what I think TNO should have done. As its very proxy war focused but fun. They even did the idea I had of making the travel instant which can be done in defines. My only thing I would change in TNO and Red Dusk is especially for wars against China and Korea, make it so you can send your entire army as a volunteer force as you get overrunn too quick.

Regardless for TNO I would shrimply cut the stupid extra window for proxy conflict bonuses and autism. Focus more on sending forces to help out. Been working on this for my own submod for TNO.

That Haiti talk makes me think that they legit could add a Nation of Islam path where they aprove 100% segregation and still would be treated by the devs as being less bad than any kraka whose politics are righter than Pol Pot
Its an issue TNO had since Panzer. Panzer like most young white kids, had no real brain devlopment and had the typical teenage polticial ideology (even though I am sure he is a grown man). In that it changes constantly. I think when he made TNO he was a vaushite psuedo-Maoist who only tokenly accepted "American imperialism is kinda less bad then the Nazis." This is also why TNO as a game sucks. It chides you as the U.S for supporting liberal democracies save in the few cases you support wholesome chungus socialists. Basically you actually partaking in the cold war is bad since you are hurting the national sovereignty of other nations.

Part of me thinks why these retards think Gus Hall taking America out of the cold war by gutting the feds is a good thing. Despite these retards letting literal genocidal actual Nazis and Japs run free. The other issue from Panzer era that has continued is the end of history purported by Francis Fukiyama. Where unironically Panzer liked this neo-liberal idea and why it chides you for being a super power trying to stop fascism. Since its thesis is that all bad guy regimes just collapse and cannot sustain itself. Its why in older canon Boreman is the leader and collapses and why Dengist Speer is supposed to be the most evil as he was the only path not a fail state for fascism in Germany. Most of the fanbase are still commie retards who barely tolerate the OFN and America as seen here in the images I am going to post.

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This is the biggest the comintern can get in game. The people of TNO have a lot to say on this on this very post.

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An old post but found when I was curious to see how far commie influence in TNO could go and found this post as the max extent. Even before this, back when KR was the big mod in simpler times one of my friends and I talked about this concept. That commies in HOI4 are the most annoying even beating wehraboos. Since wehraboos at least get mocked and their whole thing is just "German army is cool." Commies however as exemplified here have this whole cockroach theory going on. That no matter how many times you put them down, its simply inevitable they will come back. Despite the fact that as many here pointed out, communism should be a discredited ideology. Not only did Bukharin fuck up with industrializing the Soviet Union leading to the Germans ROFLstomping them into the ground. They tried to fight back only to collapse in on themselves into the warlords you see in TNO. Anyone who would support communism in the TNO timeline should be laughed, mocked, and ridiculed for supporting a failed ideology and experiment. Same issue with how Italy has 6 (formerly 9) communist paths for Red Italy and Maoist thought is all over the place still. Also as a bonus round.

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Communism would actually be seen better here since capitalist press cant point out the horrible things we did. Also those horrible things were not as horrible. My aplocheese for the long autism rant btw.
 

Somebody assorted all of the TNO dev 'promises' over the past year. To nobody's suprise, most of it is gutting old content, reworks. What surprises me is that they intend to cut alot of proxy wars, so in a sense they want to strip a Cold War scenario of anything to do or watch. Also confirms alot of the worries like Burgundy getting removed and the axe getting sharpened for the Russian content. For some reason most of the commenters seem to be in favor of these changes. Haven't touched HOI4 in a long while, so checking upon this mod's crumbling status is merely out of curiosity at this point.
With regards to your comment about most people being in favor of these changes it seems that they simply deleted all negative comments and as you can see in both the post and archive they then locked the thread citing harassment. This is standard procedure so I wouldn't be all that surprised if a lot of the critics are just quiet (or moved on to a different community) because they know their comments will get removed at best and they themselves banned at worst.
 
The Fire Rises is putting out more & more teasers as their purported release date, October 18, draws closer.

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The Fire Rises is putting out more & more teasers as their purported release date, October 18, draws closer.

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If the weeb faggot who can’t help himself from inserting tranime shit into the mod’s gfx gets kicked off the team it will be perfect
 
More fallout from the rework announcements. Since they locked down the Reddit we now have the lead dev and his friends attacking their critics on Twitter. It's about what you'd expect: they're quite mad at the Internet because people don't appreciate having all wars removed from a war game.
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The Fire Rises is putting out more & more teasers as their purported release date, October 18, draws closer.
Looks fun, I'm looking forward to it.
 
Part of me thinks why these retards think Gus Hall taking America out of the cold war by gutting the feds is a good thing. Despite these retards letting literal genocidal actual Nazis and Japs run free.
This one also shows just how bad they are as writers. They had to add "aktually Hall is homophobic and try do a Lavander Scare!!!" because people see him fucking up Hoover's personal glowies and think its good. They uniroincally think that sabotaging america isnt as bad as trying to pressure a single homo, of course they are fine with nazis being allowed to run free, they arent as bad as amerikkka
 
This one also shows just how bad they are as writers. They had to add "aktually Hall is homophobic and try do a Lavander Scare!!!" because people see him fucking up Hoover's personal glowies and think its good. They uniroincally think that sabotaging america isnt as bad as trying to pressure a single homo, of course they are fine with nazis being allowed to run free, they arent as bad as amerikkka
After Summer 2020, there probably are some leftists who unironically think that.
 
And like, as the autist tv tropes page mention, Hall helps lgbt people with his laws, he only does that with Hoover to fuck that guy in specific, but see, being mean with a poor little FBI director is worse than activelly empowering actual nazis.

Im sure that if Rohm had never been killed fuckers today would jerk off nazi germany as better than the us because of the gays k

The MAD in the game is also weird, US and Japan gonna launch their nukes if Burgundy and Germany nukes eachother? They cant wait until the two nations they know have nukes destroy each other? Just assume the launch will be on them instead of the one they are war with? Same with Germany and Russia, who if they get 5 nukes will be too much.

But, Japan wont use nukes against China unless they reach Korea for some reason?
 
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More fallout from the rework announcements. Since they locked down the Reddit we now have the lead dev and his friends attacking their critics on Twitter. It's about what you'd expect: they're quite mad at the Internet because people don't appreciate having all wars removed from a war game.
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Looks fun, I'm looking forward to it.
Am I the only who likes seeing them get so mad
 
If the weeb faggot who can’t help himself from inserting tranime shit into the mod’s gfx gets kicked off the team it will be perfect
This is SOUL and its only for the Jap shit as far as we can see.

The guy put Goku with a Mexico flag behind him. He's good in my book
Here here.
More fallout from the rework announcements. Since they locked down the Reddit we now have the lead dev and his friends attacking their critics on Twitter. It's about what you'd expect: they're quite mad at the Internet because people don't appreciate having all wars removed from a war game.
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Its going in the opposite direction of it should. Red Dusk showed us that the idea of a volunteer heavy proxy conflict game CAN work and be fun. Just get rid of the useless mini-game window and do stuff like increasing volunteer cap or making the trip instantaneous.
This one also shows just how bad they are as writers. They had to add "aktually Hall is homophobic and try do a Lavander Scare!!!" because people see him fucking up Hoover's personal glowies and think its good. They uniroincally think that sabotaging america isnt as bad as trying to pressure a single homo, of course they are fine with nazis being allowed to run free, they arent as bad as amerikkka
Its sort of the same thing you can see with Panzer's take on his fabled TNO3


This was before he became a NATO fan and was still a Maoist Vaushist and TNO's whole point was "American's are only good since le Nazis" TNO3 would have been Pax Americana and based highly off Pax Britannica as the wholesome chungus Soviet Union and whatever the hell was in China would be the good guys. Ironically supporting mutli-polar world theory which is something vatniggers salivate at. Regardless in many conflicts it scolds you for supporting your liberal options as opposed to the radical commies. I.E France becoming friends with niggers and then going back to mainland France to restore the Republic is bad compared to the literal red imperialist pan African niggers. The Pro Jap Mexican president is seen as better then the pro-American one. If you don't suck up to the reds in the Philippines it makes your job harder. Haiti nigger nationalist commies couping your liberal government is still good despite its implied they go and kill the mixed race people. And pretty sure its better if the literal commies you support in Columbia don't remain socdem and just go communist, tht's good since the evil Americans are not your allies and you are not in their faction. For something trying to de-radicalize people its clear they do want to radicalize you. Just not towards the right.
And like, as the autist tv tropes page mention, Hall helps lgbt people with his laws, he only does that with Hoover to fuck that guy in specific, but see, being mean with a poor little FBI director is worse than activelly empowering actual nazis.

Im sure that if Rohm had never been killed fuckers today would jerk off nazi germany as better than the us because of the gays k
Hall being homophobic is very in character for the CPUSA too. Gays only became in vogue in the 90s at the earliest. A lot of hard left groups of the Stalinist and Mao types only latched onto LGBT issues when it became in vogue as a minority and even then they basically tell their LGBT supporters to not mention or bring up their homophobic past. Its an issue of TNO applying too much of the modern day to TNO. They even use the whole "Bill of Rights of Socialism" as its smoking gun but this was written circa the 90s long after the CPUSA stopped getting funding from the Soviet Union and started to just support democrats.
 
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Once I saw a guy saying that Alexander Men was bad compared with Sablin because, I quote

"He only legalizes LGBT, but Sablin can get it normalized so homophobic mobs wont kill lgbt people without official government banking"

Because writing in a paper somehow makes people in bunfuck nowhere Siberia think these people are normal? May as well make an event in the US where signg something makes racism end overnight.
 
This was before he became a NATO fan and was still a Maoist Vaushist and TNO's whole point was "American's are only good since le Nazis" TNO3 would have been Pax Americana and based highly off Pax Britannica as the wholesome chungus Soviet Union and whatever the hell was in China would be the good guys. Ironically supporting mutli-polar world theory which is something vatniggers salivate at. Regardless in many conflicts it scolds you for supporting your liberal options as opposed to the radical commies. I.E France becoming friends with niggers and then going back to mainland France to restore the Republic is bad compared to the literal red imperialist pan African niggers. The Pro Jap Mexican president is seen as better then the pro-American one. If you don't suck up to the reds in the Philippines it makes your job harder. Haiti nigger nationalist commies couping your liberal government is still good despite its implied they go and kill the mixed race people. And pretty sure its better if the literal commies you support in Columbia don't remain socdem and just go communist, tht's good since the evil Americans are not your allies and you are not in their faction. For something trying to de-radicalize people its clear they do want to radicalize you. Just not towards the right.
Hall being homophobic is very in character for the CPUSA too. Gays only became in vogue in the 90s at the earliest. A lot of hard left groups of the Stalinist and Mao types only latched onto LGBT issues when it became in vogue as a minority and even then they basically tell their LGBT supporters to not mention or bring up their homophobic past. Its an issue of TNO applying too much of the modern day to TNO. They even use the whole "Bill of Rights of Socialism" as its smoking gun but this was written circa the 90s long after the CPUSA stopped getting funding from the Soviet Union and started to just support democrats.
One thing I'll give the Panzer era of TNO credit is that they were willing to show lefty types as being flawed sometimes and not infallible in a nazi victory setting. Like Hall and that German lady, heck even some of the Russian Warlords come across as deconstructions of the antifa mindest. However one of the biggest exceptions to this.....
Once I saw a guy saying that Alexander Men was bad compared with Sablin because, I quote

"He only legalizes LGBT, but Sablin can get it normalized so homophobic mobs wont kill lgbt people without official government banking"

Because writing in a paper somehow makes people in bunfuck nowhere Siberia think these people are normal? May as well make an event in the US where signg something makes racism end overnight.
Sabiln is written like naïve view of his real life defense in court and Lenin's abolition of the Tsar's laws.
 
I.E France becoming friends with niggers and then going back to mainland France to restore the Republic is bad compared to the literal red imperialist pan African niggers.
Would disagree with this one, Africans have no duty to help their colonizers. As well as that if "Free" France were to win (especially if it was a liberal gov) and retake France from the collab government, they would flood France with African immigrants to rebuild and attempt to portray these Africans as fully "French" and as saviors of France (consider how much leftists already use the narrative that African and other non Whites supposedly rebuilt Western Europe after WW2 as a justification for mass immigration and multiply that x10). The pan Africans would liberate their people from colonialism (as well as neo colonialism from exploitative corporations) and would probably restrict their people from moving to White nations (or would be openly hostile to the OFN giving White nations a firm justification to prohibit immigration from West Africa) and if they prove successful may also persuade some Africans living in White nations to emigrate there.

Ultimately them winning seems like a complete win win. France can be reformed into a democracy under the collab government (as well as receiving some financial support from Speer's Germany). I don't care if the Africans are communists either, the US has no business irl subverting newly independent nations that wished to adopt communism. Non White communism is also different from the self hating evil that is Western White communism.
 
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