Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

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More fallout from the rework announcements. Since they locked down the Reddit we now have the lead dev and his friends attacking their critics on Twitter. It's about what you'd expect: they're quite mad at the Internet because people don't appreciate having all wars removed from a war game.
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Looks fun, I'm looking forward to it.
Funny how these people think pointing out TNO as a mod has always put more emphasis on the worldbuilding and writing is some form of trump card and justification for neutering the gameplay aspect of the experience.

You will enjoy the visual novel part of the mod and nothing inbetween to balance it out. If not, this mod isn't for you, pleb.
 
Would disagree with this one, The pan Africans would liberate their people from colonialism (as well as neo colonialism from exploitative corporations)
Nigger loving wigger. The adults are talking at the moment.
Once I saw a guy saying that Alexander Men was bad compared with Sablin because, I quote

"He only legalizes LGBT, but Sablin can get it normalized so homophobic mobs wont kill lgbt people without official government banking"

Because writing in a paper somehow makes people in bunfuck nowhere Siberia think these people are normal? May as well make an event in the US where signg something makes racism end overnight.
I think they changed their laws anyway that legal is the best you can get and think they removed the normalized aspect of it.

Sabiln is written like naïve view of his real life defense in court and Lenin's abolition of the Tsar's laws.
Yeah he is the most Mary Sueish. Ironically the bad Sablin path is more in line with how he would be. The issue with their thesis on Sablin is it assumes Lenin and Leninism were not authoritarian poisoned ideologies from the get-go.
 
Nigger loving wigger. The adults are talking at the moment.

I think they changed their laws anyway that legal is the best you can get and think they removed the normalized aspect of it.


Yeah he is the most Mary Sueish. Ironically the bad Sablin path is more in line with how he would be. The issue with their thesis on Sablin is it assumes Lenin and Leninism were not authoritarian poisoned ideologies from the get-go.
What is wrong with my comment? I'm just pointing out how the pan African's winning is a win win for both sides.
 
What is wrong with my comment? I'm just pointing out how the pan African's winning is a win win for both sides.
Only thing I will say is that the only reason I am glad your comment exists is that I agree with how Japan supports pan-Africanism as that is one part of the mod they got right but would go further to say that Nazis should support anti-colonial nigger nationalist movements like Idi Amin, and Ngeuma (which if I did a submod rework I would do). As opposed to the German giant ass African Reichskommissarts which are never explained how they exist.
 
Does anyone know what's happening to the new CWIC update? I know the person who did the Gorbachev Soviet content is in Ukraine dealing with power outages from the war.
 
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Only thing I will say is that the only reason I am glad your comment exists is that I agree with how Japan supports pan-Africanism as that is one part of the mod they got right but would go further to say that Nazis should support anti-colonial nigger nationalist movements like Idi Amin, and Ngeuma (which if I did a submod rework I would do). As opposed to the German giant ass African Reichskommissarts which are never explained how they exist.
Nazi imperialists supported reclaiming German colonies in Africa and would no doubt make the massive landgrab they did for the resources and to the subjugate the supposed "lesser" Africans.
 
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Nazi imperialists supported reclaiming German colonies in Africa and would no doubt make the massive landgrab they did for the resources and to the subjugate the supposed "lesser" Africans.
Historically no. The Nazis went on record to state they were only interested in Europe. It was Nazi Ambassador Ribbentrop (who married into nobility and larped as a noble) who made claims they were going to get the colonies back when the Nazi plans and leadership mentioned they had no interest in it. ESPECIALLY large land like that. In Hitler's own talks he would often comment on how the Italians hindered their anti-colonial plans since the Italians very much were building a colonial empire. Also a tip. Decrying random shit as imperialist makes you come off as "I am 14 and here is my political theory."
 
Historically no. The Nazis went on record to state they were only interested in Europe. It was Nazi Ambassador Ribbentrop (who married into nobility and larped as a noble) who made claims they were going to get the colonies back when the Nazi plans and leadership mentioned they had no interest in it. ESPECIALLY large land like that. In Hitler's own talks he would often comment on how the Italians hindered their anti-colonial plans since the Italians very much were building a colonial empire. Also a tip. Decrying random shit as imperialist makes you come off as "I am 14 and here is my political theory."
The Nazi's weren't imperialists?
Only thing I will say is that the only reason I am glad your comment exists is that I agree with how Japan supports pan-Africanism as that is one part of the mod they got right but would go further to say that Nazis should support anti-colonial nigger nationalist movements like Idi Amin, and Ngeuma (which if I did a submod rework I would do). As opposed to the German giant ass African Reichskommissarts which are never explained how they exist.
Why would they support African nationalists if they like you said had no interest in the continent?
 
If the weeb faggot who can’t help himself from inserting tranime shit into the mod’s gfx gets kicked off the team it will be perfect
So what I'm hearing is that the devs should replace every portrait with a AI anime girl? Alright gotcha.
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I find it kinda neat how each anime character used actually makes a lot of sense in the context for each event, bit of detail that goes beyond "Lol I put anime girls on the japanese focus tree", bonus points for the Japanese sms stickers too. TFR might be incomprehensible schizophrenic nonsense, but you can tell there is a lot of effort and love put into the nonsense.
 
TNO3 would have been Pax Americana and based highly off Pax Britannica as the wholesome chungus Soviet Union and whatever the hell was in China would be the good guys
USA saving nazis from russian invasion and Bormann Germany joining OFN was based as fuck and I'm tired of pretending it's not. It's sad that no one is going to implement that due to unfortunate implications
 
Why would they support African nationalists if they like you said had no interest in the continent?
Why would they support Arab nationalists if they had no interest in the continent?


Why would they support Indian nationalists? Bose originally went to Germany and then sent back to Japan to get help from them as Germany was too far away. you should look it up unironically since its rather interesting.


Not to mention the point of the game is a cold war vying for power. The same way that Japan is a literal Empire and imperialist power but portrays itself as the liberator against whitey. Again you seem to have the political world view of 14 year old and I am pretty sure you need to be an adult to use this website.

So what I'm hearing is that the devs should replace every portrait with a AI anime girl? Alright gotcha.

I find it kinda neat how each anime character used actually makes a lot of sense in the context for each event, bit of detail that goes beyond "Lol I put anime girls on the japanese focus tree", bonus points for the Japanese sms stickers too. TFR might be incomprehensible schizophrenic nonsense, but you can tell there is a lot of effort and love put into the nonsense.
With this and Red Dusk we are getting into a strange golden age of HOI4 mods set in the modern era. At the very least people's political sperging there makes more sense then in TNO.
USA saving nazis from russian invasion and Bormann Germany joining OFN was based as fuck and I'm tired of pretending it's not. It's sad that no one is going to implement that due to unfortunate implications
For all its faults I never hated TNO for wanting to make a 30 year long game. Its ambitious but honestly Panzer while being a faggot (even in that archived post he is too up his own ass and thinks he is the greatest thing ever) could at least get this content out and he was at the very least creative enough to have a vision. Even stuff like the GAW is getting watered down to the point in the game's cod Long Yun's march is considered that. Basically he set up a lot of ideas that the main devs will not follow up on from Palpatine-esque Yockey to how they wanted to have the culture wars play a part in the 70s that certain presidents would need to politic around the ever divisive landscape. I.E if you want to ban abortion you might have to sacrifice immigration reform and secure borders in order to get some dems and NPP-C to support your later abortion ban legislation as a favor.
 
(even in that archived post he is too up his own ass and thinks he is the greatest thing ever)
After what happened to TNO, I believe he has every right to think that. Panzer singlehandedly created the biggest mod that shaped HOI4 modding and internet culture as a whole. Without Panzer, we wouldn't be here. Sure, he was cocky at times, but he didn't deserve to have his life's work stolen and destroyed by a bunch of talentless cunts
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After what happened to TNO, I believe he has every right to think that. Panzer singlehandedly created the biggest mod that shaped HOI4 modding and internet culture as a whole. Without Panzer, we wouldn't be here. Sure, he was cocky at times, but he didn't deserve to have his life's work stolen and destroyed by a bunch of talentless cunts
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Kaiserreich was already shaping HOI4 modding and broader internet culture as a whole before TNO came around. At best TNO has guaranteed that anyone wanting to listen to Reveillez-Vous, Picards now has to put up with the 2020s equivalent of Jojo autists screeching as they goon about something completely unrelated.
 
After what happened to TNO, I believe he has every right to think that. Panzer singlehandedly created the biggest mod that shaped HOI4 modding and internet culture as a whole. Without Panzer, we wouldn't be here. Sure, he was cocky at times, but he didn't deserve to have his life's work stolen and destroyed by a bunch of talentless cunts
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>tfw nu-TrooNO devs are so bad that they made a leftist soyboy egotistic faggot that was revealed to have deathclaw porn in his folder during a stream look good in comparison
Panzer-sama, I KNEEL.

In all seriousness though, this shows why projects need a central vision and a determined leader in order to be successful. When Trooncifica resigned and decided that TrooNO be lead by a committee of devs, anarkiddies where soyfacing about muh heckin wholesome anarchist democratic committee. Now that around 2 years have passed, said committee had accomplished not much else but cutting out the most fun content and adding few pieces boring minigame-infused slop. Panzer-era TNO had its problems, but at least it was somewhat fun.
 
At best TNO has guaranteed that anyone wanting to listen to Reveillez-Vous, Picards now has to put up with the 2020s equivalent of Jojo autists screeching as they goon about something completely unrelated.
Or any of the most popular Soviet-era songs. God Fucking Dammit, NO you dumbass niggers, Sacred War is not about a fictional version of Yazov and the Black League are just Russia's analogue to Burgundy.

Also, lol at great trial fags assume the Reich would even permit them to exist.
 
>Devs see you can easily break the game with helicopter divisions
>3 years latter they cut the wars

HOI and its consequences

Edit: quoting a dude on the sub

"Honestly, the SAW is one of the more perplexing things about the mod, particularly from the POV of the United States.

When you play as America, your best course of action is to achieve an OFN-leaning ceasefire, but from the viewpoint of the player, that doesn't ever seem like the right thing to do.

So, the entire war becomes a, Do Well, but Not Perfect, situation, where outright winning the war results in a worse situation than if you'd just accepted the ceasefire. Even worse, with Air Calvary, it is just too easy to accidentally achieve a total victory by virtue of how OP the divisions are."
 
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>tfw nu-TrooNO devs are so bad that they made a leftist soyboy egotistic faggot that was revealed to have deathclaw porn in his folder during a stream look good in comparison
Panzer-sama, I KNEEL.

In all seriousness though, this shows why projects need a central vision and a determined leader in order to be successful. When Trooncifica resigned and decided that TrooNO be lead by a committee of devs, anarkiddies where soyfacing about muh heckin wholesome anarchist democratic committee. Now that around 2 years have passed, said committee had accomplished not much else but cutting out the most fun content and adding few pieces boring minigame-infused slop. Panzer-era TNO had its problems, but at least it was somewhat fun.
On the sub, if you questioned anything about this leadership style or parts of the mod being bottleknecked you would get the same npc reply about how "it has no impact" yeah fucking right.
 
Kaiserreich was already shaping HOI4 modding and broader internet culture as a whole before TNO came around. At best TNO has guaranteed that anyone wanting to listen to Reveillez-Vous, Picards now has to put up with the 2020s equivalent of Jojo autists screeching as they goon about something completely unrelated.
After what happened to TNO, I believe he has every right to think that. Panzer singlehandedly created the biggest mod that shaped HOI4 modding and internet culture as a whole. Without Panzer, we wouldn't be here. Sure, he was cocky at times, but he didn't deserve to have his life's work stolen and destroyed by a bunch of talentless cunts
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Its odd since in a way both influenced modding but in a way KR is the granddaddy. KR I appreciate as it set a standard of mod quality and even back at its start it was not as commie infested. Kaiserreich basically brought back a lot of stuff from HOI2-3 that I was sad HOI4 cut and glad they brought back like ten ideology or the minister system, instead of the lazy advisors and the leaders. KR set the standard for conversion alt history mods. TNO was no exception to this. To the point you can see it in early TNO development.

I.E Totalism became ultra-national socialism which would later split into ultra nationalism and the Burgundian system we know. The reason communists are only libsoc and authsoc is due to the synd and radsoc being left. Market liberal even in the first release of TNO while rare was in the game as well as authdem and depotism being paternal autocrat while natpop got split into fascist and natsoc.

KR walked so TNO could... not exactly run but awkwardly stumble around and end up winning the special Olympics. However like KR before it it then set a standard. People started to use TNO style portraits more. Every mod had to have teasers that were sorta edgy. Events that are short novellas. And the concept of blessed, cursed, and wholesome reddit type terms. Even outside HOI4 modding they both did influence it in certain ways. I would soon run into larger number of anarcho-communists specifically identifying with syndicalism and the IWW and yes KR was confirmed to be their influence for this.

Whereas TNO ironically did not help curb left radicalism like it thought, but instead spawned both far right and neo-liberal memes. The Hyperborean and black sun edits while minor before on right wing anitwitter, exploded in popularity. Suddenly more people became aware of the concept of Hyperborea cause of the one obscure path in TNO. Likewise despite their attempts at scolding most people who had reservations on America/NATO being too based and unwholesome suddenly turned into jingoist neo-cons with OFN wave. Which morphed into the real life NATO wave as the Russo-Ukraine war just so happened to match up pretty nicely timeline wise to it.

Essentially HOI4 mods and their consequences have been a disaster for Gen Z political discourse.
 
Once I saw a guy saying that Alexander Men was bad compared with Sablin because, I quote

"He only legalizes LGBT, but Sablin can get it normalized so homophobic mobs wont kill lgbt people without official government banking"

Because writing in a paper somehow makes people in bunfuck nowhere Siberia think these people are normal? May as well make an event in the US where signg something makes racism end overnight.
It still amazes me those troons picked up a literal who orchestrated a coup that was such a failure that even the crew told him to fuck off and was never reported in the West concurrent to the actual events and made him the Jesus Christ of Communism based on a few letters he sent home. As for the last point, these are the types of people who think legislating stuff instantly equals it working. These are the kind of people who think you could abolish the 2A and gun crime would vanish overnight as people quit using guns and turn them in.

They're all fucking disgusting statists who think the state is good as long as it does what they want and fuck you if you think otherwise. It's why people fetishize Syndie America so much in Kaiserreich discussions, because they love the idea of crushing evil racist sexist bigots and introducing literal bottom surgery to a 1940s America.

I want to blame Francis Fukuyama for this but I don't think even that fucking retard could have understood the ramifications of his end of history bullshit and current-year political discourse.
 
It still amazes me those troons picked up a literal who orchestrated a coup that was such a failure that even the crew told him to fuck off and was never reported in the West concurrent to the actual events and made him the Jesus Christ of Communism based on a few letters he sent home. As for the last point, these are the types of people who think legislating stuff instantly equals it working. These are the kind of people who think you could abolish the 2A and gun crime would vanish overnight as people quit using guns and turn them in.

They're all fucking disgusting statists who think the state is good as long as it does what they want and fuck you if you think otherwise. It's why people fetishize Syndie America so much in Kaiserreich discussions, because they love the idea of crushing evil racist sexist bigots and introducing literal bottom surgery to a 1940s America.

I want to blame Francis Fukuyama for this but I don't think even that fucking retard could have understood the ramifications of his end of history bullshit and current-year political discourse.
Why blame Fukuyama when you can blame da Joos?
 
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